This is Jocko underground podcast. Number 67, Echo Charles sitting across from me. So the expression, what do they say about these Expressions? The expression is, you are the average of the five people, you hang around with the most, you know, that expression. Yeah.
Something along those lines. There's a couple different versions of it floating around, but it's common. And the reason it's common is because there's some level of truth to it. I think we can agree on that.
and as I'm thinking through that,
I think the I agree there's truth through and you can tell, you know what, you see, member High School, you'd see a kid start to hang around with a new group that he wasn't involved with before and he starts to act like that group.
What did your school have like the jocks? Yeah. The the whatever burnouts right? Yeah. You probably had Surfers. Yeah. So you got these groups and you could see a kid that you was not in that group goes in that group and starts to become like that group. So we've all seen that. So there's there is a level of truth to this statement.
But it doesn't stop there because it's not just who were hanging around with. But what are we allowing into our heads? Yeah. What are we allowing to get in there? Because at a minimum
We're highly influenced. I know that's a little bit of a weird way of saying it at a minimum were highly influenced, but at minimum, we're definitely influenced by what we allow into our heads. What kind of music were listening to? What kind of movies were watching? What kind of social media, which is bizarre because you can, you can pull social media into your head all the time and these things have a real impact on You music, for instance. Now we do, I'm a big music fan, I'm a big music listener, me.
Can reduce anxiety music, can reduce blood pressure, these are physiological things that can happen from music. Music can reduce pain.
These are physiological things that can happen. Music can improve Sleep, Quality Music can improve mood. Music can improve mental alertness.
Music can invert improve memory? These are not. I'm not just saying, oh, I think it does. No, it does.
There's also research that some music can increase aggressive thoughts. So if you listen, the kind of music, I listen to they'll make some baby, maybe it can't. There's there's evidence that music encourages certain types of music, Encourage crime, right? So there's good and bad going on kind of like fire, right? Fire can heat your house. It can burn your house to the ground but it's something that we need to pay attention to.
so,
so we have to be selective.
As to what we allowed to get in our head, and we have to be selective as to who we're going to hang around with, and we have to be selective as to what we listen to, We have to be selective. As to what we read, we have to be selective as to what we're going to allow into our heads.
You gotta get rid of the junk at some point, and listen, you know, that you have this argument, you can listen to, I listen to music with Crazy lyrics, Right? Crazy lyrics. That never impacted me to do anything crazy. You know, whether it's
Lyrics about, you know, antisocial layers, anti-government lyrics, whatever criminal, whatever it is, there's lyrics. And I go, I love that song. If I wasn't like, hey, I'm going to follow the political beliefs in this song, right?
So,
I'm not saying you got to just not listen to anything, right? Or you got to only listen to the stuff with the positive, but you got to pay attention to it.
The, you gotta increase the volume of constructive, pragmatic, input to your brain, and you got a limit, the volume of - harmful adverse things that you own your brand. Now, I also think that's, I think if you're paying attention to it, it's not going to have that much of an impact. So if you're listening to some music that has real negative message to the lyrics but you know that I think you're going to be okay if you don't know that or you're not paying attention to it, that's when you can catch you off-guard, same.
social media, if you're watching social media or looking at social media with with a questioning I that's going to be a lot better than if you're looking at it, with not an unquestioning,
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And what's really scary right now? Obviously is that algorithm the way that thing works. It's looking to give you the short-term gratification. It's looking to put you into that Echo chamber. It's
It's what we need to pay attention to.
So, let's take the expression of your, the average of the five people. You hang around with the most, which I think we can all anecdotally. Proved just from people you've known and you've watched them
change.
And if we pay attention to that and we see how it works, then we see that everything we let in our brain, if you're not paying attention to, it can move you.
So watch out. Watch out. You listen to Ozzy Osbourne? Yeah totally. So did you ever there was like this conspiracy theory? Hold on. Just so just to make this clear, the band Black Sabbath that Ozzy Osbourne was the lead. Singer of is my favorite band of all time and I've seen them in concert. I've listened to all of their albums, especially the years with Ozzy and I still listen to him when they had deal. But yes, I am completely.
An utterly engrossed in Black Sabbath and I have been since a young child, mmm. And yes, I remember I think. So I think we are going with Ozzy Osbourne. Got sued in the 80s, he had a song called Suicide Solution and I don't have the D, I don't remember the details but he ended up going to court. But the weird thing about the song, the song wasn't saying suicide was a solution. It was
Actually not about that at all. You know, the one of the lyrics, the famous lyrics is wine is fine, but whiskies quicker suicide is slow with liquor, right? So you're saying you're, if you're drinking, you're killing himself. I'm look, this is coming from a guy that had drug problems and alcohol problems. So he was saying I'm killing myself, not, I should kill myself. Yeah. So, what you, what? We're going to say, before I interrupted you, there, there is a conspiracy theory and it might have just came out of this.
That scenario, which I did know, did not know that if you played I forget I don't know what song If you play it backwards cause like masking. Yeah. Oh that's what there's all kinds. Yeah and it's not just Ozzy. There's all kinds of and the Beatles actually had that. So let me rephrase that I'm pretty sure cause I used to play The Beatles records backwards. Looking for this stuff. There's one that said Paul is dead. Stuff like that? Yak mask into the lyrics. Yep yeah they were like oh yeah you play Ozzy backwards.
And it's like devil worship and then you end up killing yourself or something like that. I don't think that was a rumor, you know, your high school or whatever it was straight up. Yeah. But, but there are, but the Beatles definitely bass back. My something definitely. I hate saying definitely, but I'm pretty sure that when I was a kid, we played, we played Beatles backwards and you just put it on the record and use your finger to rotate it backwards. And we like all
Is dead, you know, something like that, which is just random stuff to put in there there, it's called backmasking and, yes, it's a thing. When you play it backwards, that's when you messed up. When you put it in there. Oh, you put some backmasking messages in there. Oh, when you record it or whatever? Okay, thanks. Yeah. You know, that there's a movie called The Gate. You're awesome. We not believe that it's back in those days, by the way, where that was one of the, like part of the premise of the movie. Like if you played this one thing backwards, it opened the gate to hell. It's actually pretty fun.
The less the so is this true about Ozzy Osbourne? We're at one of his concerts, he bit the head off of. Yes. Bat was it? Yeah. So that's true. Yeah. Well he was Seco there and what it was there's there's a couple different versions of it and again I apologize my memories, you know filled with half of the rumors and half of the lies and half-truths whatever that's 3/2 I don't know if I was gonna turn out by 3/2 but yeah. Because I heard him tell the story of he would they had like rubber bats or something.
And he would bite the head off all the wall like a big stage show, but that at some point, someone threw him a real one. And, and he also in a record label meeting bit the head off of a, duh of a dove or something. I think, I remember hearing that story as well, but that's a wild guy, man. That's wild times, man. So Black Sabbath Ozzy. Back in the day. Do you still listen to it as a person as a song called Ordinary, man?
Yeah, it's pretty new. I'm pretty new when the last fuse pretty solid no. Yeah, they're great. I mean I think that Black Sabbath is greatest rock and roll band of all time. What's the best song?
Crazy Train. No, that's not even Black Sabbath. That's Ozzy. Just the entire first. Like Five albums. Oh damn, yeah. And there's very few bands that have made album after album after album that we're all good. That were all awesome. It's like, you got Black Sabbath.
Led Zeppelin AC/DC Metallica. Like they made because a lot of bands make a good album. Yeah. And then that's what they got, you know, and the other ones are okay. Sometimes there's other ones, aren't that good, but to come out with that many really great albums is difficult to do and not many bands have pulled that off. Yeah, freaking Ozzy. The who you hang with, or whatever and that totally makes sense where even like, you know, how like you, I'll
At you talking pigeon, every once in a while sometimes? Yeah. And that's just so, but it's like, not even if it's, I mean, they say it's like this, my but even if you hang with one guy you can. You'll probably like if you just do a smaller inventory, like, you'll see, like all the little things that you do like them. No, kind of a thing, and vice versa, so bad. That makes total sense. A lot of people like to say that, you know, the cool catch phrases like, oh, show me your network and I'll show you your net worth or like that kind of stuff, which
Which, you know, I think I actually grew the. I think there's some a lot of truth to it, a lot of the time but it's, you know, it depends, a lot of, a lot of the time, especially the net worth part, but yeah, that's true. So, be careful for right. What you put in your head, one time I was hanging around with a guy that I knew was friends with part of mine at work while still in the Navy and he was rolling in. Like a brand new Mercedes S-Class
AMG look like a 250 thousand dollar car. Maybe two hundred thousand dollar car. Yeah, and I had a 1997 Dodge Grand, Caravan the window didn't work, so his net worth was, it wasn't enough that can be real to foot here but hey that's the way it works. But watch out as friends, the modern another bottom modern issue with what you let in your head and you know, so the essentials like be careful, what you let in your head. It's up to you. What you let in your
Here, where I can, you mention the algorithm? And I think that's a bigger thing than sometimes than what people realize. Because like if you're like, okay, well, it depends on what you look at. But let's say you follow a certain person, right? We're you like why? I like what they have to say? I don't know Jordan Pederson or well, I don't know, you know, Andrew Tate is a hot one right now, whatever. So it doesn't matter who I'm just saying like you start to the algorithm would be like oh you like this guy? Oh here's more from this guy, has more from this guy and then instead of one you originally like just what they said you start.
Like the person. Now now it doesn't matter what they say. They can say some weird stuff and you're just like, well, I like him. So he'll yeah, that's me too, you know. So you kind of sign on to all their stuff after a while that can't happen. Yeah, you better be careful that you got to be careful like but yeah. How are you saying if you if you're always like what you call a questioning always question. Yeah. You know I think so. We made an album if you remember. This was called psychological warfare. Yeah.
And that album really a lot of people got it and still get it to this day. And what's interesting about that is that so that's that's doing exactly what this is talking about. Putting good thoughts into your head. Yeah. Right. I'm going to overcome this. Yeah, that's that's
You can see why that album has been so popular, because people go, if you listen, that when you wake up in the morning, that's the first thing that's in your head and then you take the whole thing. Like, we talked about on the machete season, the machete season podcast, where they talk about the power of radial in the power of spoken word. And how there's no filter it goes right into your brain, you don't need to convert anything. And that's what psychological warfare is its help.
People overcome those moments of weakness and help people stay on the path. Why is that? Because they're putting something into their head, that's moving in the right direction? Yeah, yeah. It's like helping in the real world. So a lot then you got to be careful because like you just said you can get on the cram and be like, I'm gonna go get some positivity from the G. Next thing, you know, it
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