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host and your brain coach, Jim quick of quick learning. And here as always, we're helping you to learn more things quickly. And the question we have for, he's a resort and talk about the role that our microbiome plays in shaping, our moods, and shaping our memory. And also our dreams and this is going to be a very interesting conversation that's going to be very very practical. And I'm very honored to have a very special guest on the show today, dr. Jeffrey Bland. He's the founder of
Big bold Health, which is a company on a mission to transform the way people. Think about one of Nature's greatest Innovations, which is the human immune system, Jeff is the author of the disease delusion Conquering the causes of chronic illness for a healthier longer and happier life as well as many additional books. Thanks for being on the show Jeff Meldrum. I can't tell you what a pleasure is. This is and of course quickness is the nature of our life right now. Everything is time compressed so you've you've captured light in a bottle. It's really a pleasure to be with you.
You thank you. Now, when we, when we met that this event, we were actually introduced by a mutual friend dr. Mark Hyman. And he referred to you, when he when he introduced, you is like the Godfather of functional medicine. Maybe we could start with functional medicine and we could just give a definition for that and then we go into immune Health. Functional medicine is designed to not look Downstream at what a person has, but look Upstream is to where it came from. It looks for the origin and causes of Downstream related health problems. So it's really an upstream focused.
That uses what we call systems biology, which is an emerging new, kind of way of looking at systems, how things are networked together to. Don't look at one organ at a time. You look at how the body is interfacing with the outside environment and what signals are being picked up by the body and converted through the process of cellular function, into their function and their function is physical function. Metabolic function cognitive or mental function and behavioral function. Those four functions wrapped together to give what we call our health. And that's the focus of the functional medicine, man.
Model. And what would be an example of that? If somebody is, let's say diagnosed with something like Alzheimer's or something. You know, what's the difference between symptoms of something and some getting something at more of the route Upstream Source. Yeah, you know, I think all summers is actually a very good example because as we recognize the pharmaceutical industry is spent literally billions of dollars trying to find the pill to treat Alzheimer's. And it's done so unsuccessfully and we believe that the reason it's been unsuccessful. Loosen consequence of the fact that science they did was
It's the model they're using is wrong. Alzheimer's is a multifactorial condition that's associated with the interface, between a person's lifestyle and their genes to give rise to a complex affected seen. In terms of the hippocampal function of their brain, that leads to what we call Alzheimer's disease. Its multivariate multifactorial in order to really understand how to manage it, both prevention and early stage treatment. You need not to look at the downstream effects, but you need to look at the Upstream uniqueness that that person has in their lifestyle.
How they're treating their genes to create the signals that lead to brain health. And when you start asking those questions, you find out that there are more than 30 variables that really relate to what might ultimately down screen be seen as Alzheimer's disease. The nice news of the good news is that all these 30s are variables, that can be modified by a person's lifestyle, and dietary intervention exercise, sleep management, stress reduction, and so forth. So, it's really looking at the cause and not just the effect. And what would you say is the role you mentioned genetics?
What role does epigenetics play and brain, or even the topic of this conversation this episode immune Health. Yeah. So let's just refer to what epidemics means because a lot of people this is a little bit of a mystery term. So our genes are encoded in 23 chapters, which we call, I call our Book of Life, those 23 pairs of chromosomes are 23 chapters, half of which is written by our biological mother that have fire biological father, don't tell us who we are or what will be but tell us what we can be. They are not all expressed though. All this.
Stories. In our Book of Life are not expressed simultaneously or we'd be a mess. So, the question is, what is the story that's red in our book of life? That creates what we call, how we look at can feel? And that to me is controlled, by things that regulate how, our genes are actually functioning. And those are things above the jeans, the word Epi refers above the jeans. These are things that are put on the jeans marks that actually regulate how our genes are expressed. In the exciting news is that our lifestyle our diet of way. We live in the world that
Were exposed to actually are things that regulate how our genes are expressed. So now we have what I call the science of Hope the signs of Hope is it not is not just a one-way street that we get damaged because of our genes. We didn't got it. You can fill out an application card. We just got the luck of the draw on. So people think woe is me if I got bad genes, but now we recognize with epigenetics that actually we can modify how our genes are being expressed. It's a two-way street. That is the future of what I call the science of Hope which we are.
Really exploring with many, many other people as to how to maximize that in persons, 100 Years of high-level living like that signs of Hope. And so genetics doesn't predetermine our destination or our destiny. If you will, their certain factors like lifestyle and so what are some of those things that we could do? Let's talk about the Roll Lifestyle and how it impacts our microbiome. And how does the our microbiome play? A role in things like our food, our memory. Yeah, so I think that that question of how
Our brain works and how it's connected to the rest of the body. It's not cut off at the neck. You know, when I was in medical school, each of the organs were kind of isolated one to the own with different medical specialty. So we think of the brain as being the, you know, the owned by the neurologist, but now we start recognizing it. Actually, the brain is connected to all the other organs of the body. And one of the most important systems of the body, that the brain is connected to happens, to be the immune system and the immune system is connected to the microbiome. So now,
We're starting to learn that there is this interesting intervention that we can improve brain function through improving immunity which has to do with improving and stabilizing the health of our microbiome, which lives in our intestinal tract. You know, a lot of people say that I want to boost my immune system to try to give me more defense against the foreigners or infections or injury boosting. The immune system is not a good idea because if you have an imbalanced immune system by boosting it you
Enhance the imbalance. You might increase the risk to concern. What you want to do, is you want to find the ability of, the immune system. Find its resting place to find its ability to function, which is natively in our genes. The immune system will find its place if we give it the right materials. And therefore what we are talking about is not boosting immune systems but rejuvenating immune systems, it does through a process called epigenetics and otology. Topology is kind of a collecting the damaged cells getting rid of
them and replacing them, allowing them to be replaced with new juvenile cells. Most people do not understand that we make about 80,000 new immune systems every second. Now, the question is, will those immune cells be the same as those they're replacing? Will they be better than or worse than and what? We started to recognize is the process of immuno Rejuvenation. Allows the immune system to cleanse these old damaged cells that have bad memories and and are involved with inflammation and replace them, then with cells, that have
Much more ability to respond with balance and not with age. And the effect that that has been on brain function, is truly remarkable with improves sleep, improve Clarity lowered, brain fog better dream states, and lower depression, all of those things, your inner connected to this process of immuno Rejuvenation. We were speaking in conversation with dr. Hyman he credits. You as sharing with him, this wisdom that food is information. That food is indeed a medicine.
And what role does food play and the soil and the future of Health Care in the future, health of our immune system and and our mood memory and more. We want to stay away from things that are injuries to our immune system, and a lot of food. Additives food, colorings synthetic ingredients, oxidized a living, you know, fats, all these things become injury as to our immune system and we want to replace him by things that were close to the soil growing in organic types of media without carrying a bunch of bad memories and
As those plants that are grown organically actually are found to have higher levels of immune, strengthening nutrients than those that are grown under high, a tech kind of food, technology, pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers biocides. These particular plant-derived nutrients that are found from foods that are grown in healthy soil. Then when consumed by the human, have extraordinary value in immuno Rejuvenation. Through both the effect they have in the gut microbiome and through the
Effect. They have directly on the immune cell Health. You were describing it. I saw like the microbiome is and you're saying like, Roots as what you nourish flourishes. And I kind of see the, the microbiome, as the roots and the Brain as kind of the, the, the fruits there and he what you eat matters, especially especially for your gray matter. Is there such a thing as a perfect diet? Or is it more more bio individual? Do you recommend people test themselves through microbiome test or where?
Where do you start their personalization? To me is very, very important. However, there are certain general principles that virtually all people might benefit from certain principles of eating a variety of foods. Eat the rainbow with natural vegetable products of different colors because they carry different information to our body. Staying away from highly processed shelf-stable food, stay away from high sugar high glycemic, index Foods, eating foods that are higher in a variety of Prebiotic fibers, but we have really started to understand and I think
This is the AHA for me. Over the last few years is that there are specific nutrients within this phytochemical family that seem to have a very strong, a positive effect on the immune system, through the relationship, they have with our microbiome. These are the members of what we call the polyphenol or flavonoid families that are found in foods like apples and onions. In various kind of green leafy vegetables and they really cut across the fruit and vegetable family. And there are certain members of those families at
You have a really strong impact upon the relationship between our microbiome and our immune system and our brain function. And these have names like Rootin and quercetin, luteolin Hesperian diosmin, their specific members of the family that seem to work together as buddies as a team. And so what we have learned is that these polyphenols have really important rejuvenating capabilities for both the gut microbiome and our immune system, and the subsequent connection it has to brain function. Now, where
do you find these in Foods at high level? These are the foods that have high nutrient density of these immune strengthening phytochemicals. And that led me into a discovery that was serendipitous. I believe I wasn't actually searching. It can't kind of just happenstance in my life through three observations that came together that there was this ancient food actually a 2500 year old food that had been lost in America about 200 years ago called Himalayan tartary buckwheat and this has been a
That's been consumed in Asian cultures for, as I said, 2500 Euros. It got thin taken on the spice Trail into Europe and was used principally in Eastern Europe, as a major food, and actually was brought to colonial America on our original Colonial ancestors because it's so hearty. It doesn't require pesticides, herbicides fertilizer, and it doesn't require irrigation. It's so high in these plant-derived phytochemicals that are immune, strengthening that bugs. Don't even like it. And so, it's a very very
Hardy plant and it has between 50 and 100 times the level of these immune strengthening phytochemicals, these polyphenols and flavonoids than any other food that has been studied. And we decided we would kind of get it back on track. And so, we now have a group of organic farmers that are part of our Cooperative or Himalayan territory buckwheat Cooperative that are growing this week. We've kind of Gone full circle from the theory now to the practice of. How do you actually introduce a food into your diet or
That would actually enhance your immune or Rejuvenation and that's really been kind of the principal focus of our of our development research, a big bold health, over the past couple of years, and where can people get that? That nutrient, they can they order it online or presently? They can either come to our website, which is big bold health.com or they can go to Amazon and look us up on your big bold. Health.com will put the links to everything that dr. Blend mentioned in the show notes as we always do at Jim quick.com forward slash notes, the make sure you go there. I have to
This question, you talked about how microbiome affects mood and memory and people know that, that the foods that they eat affect how they feel and their level of focus, their ability to recall information, how they manage stress. How does that relate to dreams though? Oh yeah, thank you. So, if we think of Dreams is kind of our subconscious mind, having a chance to explore degrees of freedom, to express, its art express its view of the universe at a subconscious level. So dreams are really provocative.
Profound as it relates to memories that have been encoded throughout the day, things that our experiences things that maybe we're not even wanting to deal with in our cognitive state that get processed in the dream state. So if your neuronal function is suffering from neuroinflammation as a consequence of an activated brain, immune system, the microglia then it's going to affect your dream state. It's going to. I don't want to necessarily say create bad dreams but it's going to create complex dreams that are not reflective.
Of of when your brains immune system is at rest and at peace, it's going to be a disturbed set. It may even be blocking out, certain things that you really want to deal with by superposing other things on top of it. And so, what we have found is that feeling state of people that get their immune system aligned and get it rebalancing rejuvenated, is that they are not only did their Sleep Quality improve and there but there's sleep. Dream State Joy improves, they actually have better feeling state of
Waking both refreshed remembering dreams often and vividly that are good dreams part of their reflective process of processing. So I think this once again as you said Jim is so profound and message as to how we're interconnected that our body is a system. It's not just the brain working in isolation in any more than any one organ Works in isolation and that we can actually improve joy. We can improve rest, we can improve the sense of clarity. We can even improve our creativity.
By a brain that is not neuro inflamed that the immune system is working as our friend and not as our enemy. And we, we know with the brain, you know, your heart's pumping blood to your brain, bringing oxygen to the brain, or livers cleaning, that blood out. So all everything is connected and it's so wonderful that you're bringing this information, you know, to our audience and we appreciate connecting with you. Also, how can people stay connected with you and your work? Well, thank you. Yeah. I'm very fortunate to have a group of
People that have hung with me through throughout many years and that's our big bold health Team, and it's also connected into our personal lifestyle medicine Institute team, both of which were actively involved with and we can provide lots of information to people that are interested on are two sites. And that's either the Big Bolt health.com site or are Jeffrey Bland.com side. That's J. FF R. Ey Bland VLAN d.com. You'll find a treasure Trove of information.
Nation there that probably you can dig as deep and bury yourself in this as deeply as you might been very fortunate to have the interaction with world leaders and all sorts of these discoveries. And so we can introduce you to some of their thoughts through these two sites and this is just the tip of the iceberg. So I recommend as everyone's listening to visit and stay connected with dr. Bland and his team again, will put all the links to his social media. His website, his books, at Jim quick.com forward slash notes, doctor,
And thank you so much for joining us again for the show. Jim, thank you and what you're doing in spreading information and news that people can really use to perform at high level is, is extraordinarily valuable and can't tell you how much I appreciate all of your efforts, and thank you everybody for listening and we'll see you in our next episode. If you enjoyed this one, make sure you take a screenshot and you share it and you make you could tag Jeff tag myself. So we get to see it. Make sure you subscribe to our YouTube, iTunes Spotify and leave a review and until then
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