Hi, everybody. We are back with dr. Brene brown, who is going to be answering all of your forty thousand million questions that you sent in. She's not going to be accountable for that. But no she is not. That's right. Good good so many.
It's for you, but guess what? I get to ask the first question. So here's my question. Okay, I've been dying to ask you this question in a public forum for years because we've talked about this several times and non-public forums. My question for you. Dr. Byrne. A brown, is about the way women's work, is defined in perceived and translated in the world compared to men's you. And I have talked about are slight just minor frustrations.
Missions around the phenomenon of our male counterparts in the world often being defined as so many things leadership, experts, etc, etc. While no matter what we introduce ourselves, as we are, often defined. And I've even seen you to find many places as a self-help.
Guru. Mmm.
Can you just because I'm sure that there are many people who would think, why is that even an issue? Why is that? What can you just talk to us a little bit about your thoughts about how your work is defined in the world compared to counterparts and how misogyny is laced in a lot of that.
Yeah. I'm so bad. Just even thinking about
it because because look,
I have 125 thousand dollars in student loans.
I went to school after I graduated from college for, like seven years. Like anyone that does what I do would be any man that does. What I do would be called a social time scientist researcher. They would never you know, like like there was a headline in the UK that said self-help Queen. I remember
that. Yeah, you know, it's just, it's diminishing. Yep. And
Social scientist. Queen great. Send me a tiara or whatever. I'll wear that great. I'll stick my data right up there. It's twofold for me. It one. It's just the patriarchal gendering of me. But then it's also dismissing from a long history of rational thought over emotion is dismissing my work as quaint and secondary and soft skills and optional.
Women's, I ride it woman's voice. Yeah.
Oh, oh, oh my God. Oh my God. Don't ever put those two words together and cut. I mean,
yeah, it's and it's so hard because it's like I
right dear to lead and dirtily. It's been a really big book, but so many people in the beginning said, you know, it's like women Rye, women read leadership books by men and women.
Men read leadership books by men, you know, and I'm like
I don't even like the gender binary part of that story, but
it's
I don't, I don't get it. It's not that, it's not that you feel less. Mhm. It's not that. Your lack of paying attention, and your lack of self-awareness around your emotion is benign. You're hurting
people. Yep,
you know, and you think this is soft skills. So, let me give you two options. You can take three days and you can study PowerPoint, or you can study.
3 days and we can talk about shame and the diminishing viewings inside you and how its leading you into power over. As a leader. They're going to pick PowerPoint every time. That's the soft. That's the soft.
You know, it's a
passive-aggressive. Gendered jab that I just cannot tolerate. I can't stand
it. Yeah, and it's a job, not just to you but I think if you're in a place where you're, you are writing to mostly women or your
Women are consuming your work. It's insulting to them together. Everything. We do self. Help. If it's for men. It's about how to like conquer the world, right? How to use what they have right now? Use what they have to conquer the world. But if it's for women were just such neurotic messes that we just have to fix what's inside of ourselves real quick. Before we write like the idea that everything we do is self-help is so
Sergeant, dick to everyone who even receives artwork that word that keeps coming
to mind is dismissive. Yeah.
Mhm. Mhm, but I would say self-perpetuating to, I mean, yeah, sure. To the way Abby's, you know, women's sports. Don't make as much well a they do but be it's because the marketing dollars and the channels you put them on and all of the like it takes the investment to get the return. And when you assume
As a publishing company or whatever Ventures that you're in. Oh, that this cute thing from dr. Brown is going to be for these ladies over here. They're not making the investment. There are marking it as if it is what it
is to the world. I mean, it's do you know that when I was, oh my god, when I the first book I wrote, I couldn't get it. I couldn't even get an agent, much less a publisher. So I borrowed money and I self-published it.
And I paid an extra
$30 at a writing conference to have like an audience within within a real New York City agent.
And
it was so funny because he said, first of all he said don't use humor and your work. There's nothing funny about shame Nietzsche once said, blah, blah blah. And then he said we'd be interested if you would be willing to turn it, the book on women and shame to women's most embarrassing
moments. Oh Jesus, you can't make it up now. Yeah.
Like what does that mean like that in about time? That tampon fell out and I was longing and it down. I mean, like, I don't even know
what does that mean? Same say it. Like so similar to your actual work, is that when? Oh my god. Well, I remember, when my when my last book came out the New York Times article said, Glenn and Doyle releases, another Memoir question, mark question mark. Okay, and then David Sedaris came out with a new, his 48th book the next week and it was like David Sedaris.
Yells Bubba. Bubba blah, like yay. And it was just like in the title. It was like, is she gonna say another damn thing? She's gonna say another thing. She's three. You still talking? Yeah. Why are we letting her talk more? But like, when it's a man, and he's on his 60th book. It's just amazing to me how men, you know, I'll do interviews. And they'll, and they'll say, Do you ever worry that it's just like narcissistic to keep talking about yourself. Wow, men talk about their lives.
And it's a reflection of The Human Experience. Women keep talking about their lives and it's narcissism. Hmm.
Oh my God, it's just yeah, it's yeah, I mean, I remember I reached out to you. I did not. I don't think I knew that. Well.
And I read something that said Christian mommy blog. Oh
dear God. I will be on my motherfucking tombstone.
They only did that that only came out when we started when we got together because some talk about propagating, some person wrote a headline because what's the most shocking quick? Baby thing? We can put with Abby Wambach. A Christian mommy blogger right to be in a lesbian relationship. So one person, put it in a headline and then that's all I was called for five years.
I wasn't my blogger anymore. I don't even know if I was a Christian anymore. Like, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, it is it is
and sometimes I can talk about it like this and be okay, but sometimes I'm like in a corner crying like sometimes I'm you know, I did Texas monthly which is a big thing in Texas like, you know, Texas monthly did a cover story and it had a picture of me and illustration. Like I was looking kind of into the clouds and it said,
The the journalist kept saying, you know, as a therapist, I'm like, I'm not a therapist. Mmm-hmm. Like don't like, I go to a therapist. I love therapist. I trained therapist, but I'm a researcher. I'm not a clinician. I'm a researcher and I'm a social scientist. And so it said, America's favorite therapist, parentheses on the front of the thing on the front, it said, but for heaven's sakes, don't call her that
Godot. Because she's also real touchy. Yes, right, uh, cheese.
That's exactly it. It's important to just recognize for every person when language matters. Hmm, and then when people are assigning us roles and assigning who we are to us, yes, when it is not true of our experience. And we are seen as touchy overly sensitive or precious when we clarify, who we are in the world. That is a universal issue that
Women face. I
think I'll of the point that you're making Amanda because I have a real shame trigger for me. Just family of origin stuff about being high maintenance. Like, when we were growing up high maintenance was like not a good thing to be like it's like, hey, we're going and it's like all the girls baseball caps on ponytails in the car in five minutes. There was just no dilly-dallying. Like if we're on a road trip, you had to go the bathroom, but the you know that it was across the freeway on the other direction, you know, it's tough shit. We're
And fold it. And so yeah, hold it, hold it. And so when I say, you know, what can you not refer to me that way like, oh sorry. She's kind of high maintenance.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm
like, am I? I feel like it's integral to all of the work. I mean, how are we supposed to be people who set boundaries to say to know where edges are? But yet we're supposed to be, when the world tells us who we are, when the world tells us where
we belong, were
supposed to turn into this amorphous, just fitting in wherever we may be. And, yeah, I mean, the whole book Atlas of the heart is about
Using specific language to should tell you who I am. But then when she tells the world, literally who she is, they don't get to like they don't have to use that. It's so important when people tell us who they are to believe them and to use language. Yeah. Yeah, okay for it.
Let's go to one of the Forty hundred thousand trillion questions that that our pod squad. Ask. Dr. Bernie, bro. I'm ready. Hi, my name is Carolyn and I am calling for a question for Brunei and I wanted to ask you about personal Evolution and goats. It's a wonderful thing to work on ourselves to do hard things and to evolve as a person and whatever time we get with our one precious life. I've found that sometimes that can come.
The sneaky side effect of guilt. When the evolution can mean leaving parts of our life and even relationships and friendships behind. And I was wondering Renee, if you have any advice for embracing our bolts selves. Thank you, Renee, and thank you Glenn and sister and Abby you are loved. Have a great day.
Yeah,
you know, I think back to in social work. We study systems theory and we there for every change and for every shift and for every boundary, there's reverberations.
I maybe
10 years ago, used to be more Cavalier about
You just have to do what's best for you. And you know, hope that other people can appreciate that. And if they can't appreciate, I hope they can just respect
it. I think.
When we make changes and we evolved, and we figure out who we are.
I think that path always includes some grief. Mmm.
You know and I think that we don't talk
about grief
as a part of change enough and I think when we don't do that and it does people are real disservice because then when they hit grief, they think they've done something wrong. Yep, or they think I didn't. I didn't know this was going to be coming and I didn't and I'm changing for the better. But you know, look, I've I've had to, I've done everything from completely lost relationships that were important to me.
To having to really reconfigure and recalibrate relationships in a way that where they exist, but they don't look or feel like they used to,
and
there's always been some grief in that and questioning myself. And I think about this personally, in my own life, I think about this in the research, I think about this in the leadership work I do.
Change is often actually changes. Always trying to think about being hyperbolic but changes, always are always includes a a series of small deaths.
And if we don't understand that grief is going to be a part of change, and that loss is going to be a part of change. I don't think we can successfully evolved, and I don't think we're doing people a favor by not saying there's going to be some loss.
even if it's the death of an expectation,
you know, like I set this boundary and I really expected this person to say I respect that boundary and I want to make this new relationship work with this boundary in place and they never show up like that. There's a death there.
Mmm. That's so helpful. Death is the expectation because but also there's a death either way. Yes is important to remember because you don't choose the change. If you don't choose yourself, then there's a debt happening that way also which is whatever.
We're about to become. Yeah, that's right. Suede death This Way. Choose your death. Choose the right there. Shoot? Ya choose. Your death and maybe be guided by
the possibility of rebirth as you choose your death, you know, and I don't know that we can birth, what we don't have some control over, you know, so I'm always going to choose.
And sometimes they'll take me 10 minutes and sometimes it'll take me a decade, you know, to make those choices that loss is
hard. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to Kim Kim. Are you there? How do you know when to quit? And because I feel like I beat a dead horse, until he has gone to Dust & Ashes, and I stay in things too long. So I just, you know, I think
The fear of change is probably a reason why? But you know, I just don't know when you know, when to walk away from a job from anything. It's not just like relationships or anything like that. So thank you.
I think it goes back to the first question as well from Caroline, right? Yeah,
I think for me
and what I see in the research is
The question of I think about you, Abby a lot around this because I actually think about sport in general, but you have to say, just for the record that Wolfpack was the most impactful leadership. Everybody. 5700 1997 research books. I don't think anything changed my life as much as well. Pack my
God Renee out of here. No, no. No, I
don't. I don't, I don't think it was like, like I get teary-eyed thinking about it. It was so
Monumentally.
Just impactful and useful and really changed me changed. Who I am as a person as a parent the way I am. I, you know, partnership with Steve.
Thank you. Yeah, it's I think that
thing that when we find ourselves, just not letting go and wondering, why am I, you know, I think it's the question of fear and I always ask myself when I find myself charging towards something over and over.
Or running away from something over and over. Like, what's the fear? You know, what is the fear? Like if if I let this go, if I stop doing this, what's the fear? And I think if when we can Surface the thing that were most afraid of
That's the most that, you know.
A love affair with the thing. You're most afraid of, there's nothing more powerful than that and just not running from that thing. But saying, I'm going to invite you to be with me. This thing that I'm the most afraid of and teach me like what is it that, what am I doing? And I think sometimes we're so afraid to name what, you know, we hold on to the job or the
Ship or the hope, the expectation, the dream.
Because we don't understand the fear.
That's right. Under letting go of it. Yeah, what II like that? I think about your work a lot.
They just how you this weird story. This is a very weird aside from the question. But so I was a competitive swimmer, any sport. I did, you can start with competitive. So it's just my nature. Yeah. Yeah, but not high level, like not like, you know, a professional or even D1 athlete. Just just whatever. I'm going to beat you wherever I play, no Matter, but yeah, it's really good. It's terrible but so tennis. And then I just took up
Pickleball. Mmm, at,
I believe you play Pickleball.
I have not played pickleball, but I know of it. It was it's like huge in Naples. So,
so when oh my God, that's a capital of
pickleball. Yes. Yes, that's enables us to pick up the capital ball. Yeah. So anyway,
so
This is my fear. This is my my love affair with my fear. So I played a lot during and as a next-gen has player. It's great because it's you know, less hard I thought. So theoretically but it's probably still pretty hard on your body. But I'm playing I'm playing I'm playing, you know, and I'm like I'm going to be a four player but this time and it was doing this. And then all the sudden, I mean, covid playing and we go someday because it's raining we go one day because it's raining to an indoor pickleball place and there's four of us. It's me.
My sister, and then my coach and then another friend of ours and Austin and you don't get a court. With all four people. You lay your paddle down. It's open play, and we call two people at a time. And you play the first time I've been in public in a year. So people are already like, oh, hey my God, I love your work and they're taking pictures of me and I get on the pickleball court and we do know that these two paddles, I hold them up, like, oh shit, those ours ours. So I go and these two guys are like God these two men.
And when you serve in pickleball, you just put the ball into play. It's nothing fancy. Not time like a tennis Ace. You just put the ball into play 7 faults in a row.
7 faults in a
row.
Just wrong side of the court. And the guys are like, of course, like this, if we draw these two women, you know, and I fucked re oh my gosh. Yes. Yeah. I hate those guys fucking hate those guys. So I they don't know because we haven't been able to play some. Faulting everything that the person with me is a professional pickleball. Player D1 college, coach coach at UT. And you know, she goes she looks at me and she goes what are you afraid of? And I said, you know,
I don't, I don't know what's happening right now. And she said, yeah, she goes total sport psychology on me, focus. On the task, bounce the ball, hit the ball, bounce the ball, hit the ball. And I said, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of being filmed. I'm afraid of people putting me on YouTube. I'm afraid of, you know, brene Brown picking, you know, I'm afraid of. Oh my God, I'm afraid of laying down these fuckers. I don't even know. And this pickleball place, you know, and then I was like, okay, I literally just kind of grabbed this are and I
Like okay fear, I stuck it in my pocket and I was like, okay? And then I just played, we beat them, of course.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but it was and I
talked to Pepper grains about the sport psychologist and she's like, you know,
You got to befriend the fear. It's telling you something, probably trying to protect you from when you didn't have agency as an adult. Hmm, you know, but what are you afraid of? So good.
Reminds me of that part of your book where you said anger is a wonderful Catalyst but a terrible companion. It's like no. Yeah if the thing which is, you know, will be on my show.
Tombstone, but like this, the idea of like that fear being Catalyst to be, like, what is it as opposed to? Like, I'm just gonna be with it. I'm just gonna let this just be with me and Define my experience for this whole time. Yeah. And not letting go of
something is not a good Catalyst because it who don't know what the emotion is underneath it. Yeah. What's the fear? What's the shame? That's the Catalyst and then you'll get the decision whether to let go or not our keep griten away.
But you know, big difference between grit and grind
it, seen, you say that top. That say something about that. I need to know the difference between grit and grind. More, please do
Greta be. I'm thinking of Angela, Duckworth construct here, but Grit
People who have a ton of grit walk away from stuff often. They're not afraid to say this is not working. This is not what I thought. I'm changing course, on pivoting. I'm letting this go grind, is much more externally focused than grit. Mmm-hmm. Britt. Is this is about me.
This is about migrant. This is about grind. Is what will people think.
Holy shit. This is so fucking transformative for me, because it's exactly the thing that I've been working on in the last five years of retiring from playing sports. I was grinding as an athlean because I was so focused on the external, what people not of me, the rewards that I would get externally, and then over the last five years because I don't have that.
Audience. Literally, I've been working so much on the grit and being able to say, you know, at that actually isn't working for me. So when I suck at commentating, when I first retired on ESPN, I hated it. I hated every second of it, and I also got the feedback that it was really terrible on Twitter and Instagram. And I thought, okay. This just isn't for me and I just left it. And so now I find myself doing things that that's really, really fast and hit her.
Are you inside that, you know, the right kind of hard or the wrong kind? That's right. That's right. Yeah, because and I can be disciplined, like I go surfing every day even though I suck because I want to I have grit because I want to figure it out it. Yeah, that's great. That's great. Like
waves. Yeah, up here back. Shit, water up your nose. Can't breathe. Like I don't want to go
today. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, with no was just you. Yeah, because it's
you the board in the wave and to watch you play like my sisters and I did.
Obsessively that was grit so good. Like yeah, you could say, like she really doesn't give a shit. What? Any of us thinks it's, you know, her the pitch, the ball. I wonder if she even knows we're here.
I didn't mean I had a little vanity and me for sure, but the difference
between grit and grind, it's really big. I love that per day.
Okay, you guys, let's hear from Danielle. Hi everyone. My name is Danielle. My question is around boundary. So I know boundaries of super important. I can set boundaries. But how do I tell people what my boundaries are? I feel very uncomfortable, very uncomfortable being like hey, I had boundaries. This is what they are. Can you please follow them? So, I'm not understanding how to do that in a way that is comfortable for
People to get my boundary took off and that is my question. Thank you so much. Audrey's. Listen to Bernie's podcast. Yes. Good at this concrete. Very concrete instructions. I do give really glad I
sent really concrete boundaries, but I don't think I've ever used the word boundary.
Hmm. Ah, yeah and setting them really, I think
that's really complicated and hard and could set you up for a not.
Good conversation. So I think that the setting of boundaries is about. I wish you was on the phone so we could roleplay 1 together.
But um, I'll hopefully with some yeah. Okay, great. So
what something? What something you're worried about? Okay, let's say there's
a let's time for that. Well, the holidays are a lot of people are trying to set boundaries with family, like people who say inappropriate things or say, I'm a person
Is single. And my mom is always bringing up marriage in ways that make me uncomfortable. How do I, how do I talk to my mom about stop saying stupid shit? Yeah. So
hey Mom. I'm super excited. I'm going to get in Wednesday. I'll be there probably about noon. I cannot wait to see
y'all. One
thing. I want to let you know, is, I know you love me and I know you think a lot about me finding a partner and
I love that you think about me and you worry about me. It's okay to do that. What's not? Okay, is to talk about it. With me. You can worry about me. You can think about it all the time. You can have a ton of questions.
That's okay. What's not okay? Is to bring the questions to me and to talk about it in front of other people. Even with me. You can talk about it with you know, and Julie you can talk about it with whomever. I don't want to be in that conversation. Hmm.
Okay, then in your research. What is the next thing that Mom says that is so hurtful and not accepting of this boundary. What do they say next? Like will you're so sensitive or yeah,
let's yeah. I mean you're you know
No, oh, come on, come on. We're just, you know, we love you and, you know, and we were just were just having a good time. And, you know, I just think you're just What A Catch. You Are God my my I hear you and I love you too. And I love that. You think I'm a great catch. That's that means the world to me. I'm going to ask you again. I don't want to talk about that. It's hurtful to me. So I'm going to say it's okay that you think about it and worry about it. It's not okay that we talk about it at
dinner.
Excellent. And then I have one more. Follow-up question. Yeah, the thing that people say over and over again as if it's some kind of antidote to everything painful and shameful that we say to each other. Is this word? Oh, we're just joking. It's just a joke. Yeah. What do we say? Is this? I do that. I mean and I love how the mound to talk about sarcasm in the book too. And how that really so dangerous to relationships. When someone says I'm just joking as if that's a permission slip to say whatever you want. What is away?
Way we can approach that whole concept because it stops over stations. Yeah, I think
I think there's a couple things. So I think one of the most powerful things about a boundary that people forget is people think boundaries are just what's not, okay. Hmm, when we tell people what is okay? When we tell someone look hey this this truce, this is true story.
I've always had a Christmas party when Ellen was in elementary school invited. A lot of the folks in the neighborhood and just people that were not really friends. But, you know, you know how you become just a community, our kids go to school together kind of thing. Yep, Talk of the talk of the neighborhood for a while. Was someone who drank a whole lot. Yeah. It was funny. Everyone was joking because you passed out at book club. Those kind of things that you do not ever funny for me. And so, two choices, I had given up.
I'd given up gossiping for Lent that year. Oh, and which is really hard as a very quiet, 40 days and 40 nights. Yeah. I realized I had like, no friends at all. Really? Cause I was like, what am I talking about with most these people except for other people? I don't really like it either, you know, so so interesting because it was a very spiritual practice for me to give up gossiping. So then I thought, oh man, what am I going to do with this person at the Holiday party,
so I actually
asked him.
Her to talk to her after drop-off, one day and said, I'm super excited about you and has been in kids. Coming to the party. Can't wait to see you. I'm going to have to ask that. You don't drink at the party this
year. Wow. Yeah, and she said,
haha. I get it. I was a little wasted last year. I'll take it easy. I said, I'm not asking you to take it easy. I'm saying, I really want you to come. I really want to see your husband, your kids. I really want you all to be there, but I'm asking that.
You come that you not drink at all. She said, are you telling me that I cannot drink a drop of liquor if I come to your party? And I said that's exactly what I'm saying. And I'm saying that I hope you come. She wouldn't come to your party was the last fucking party in the world. And I said
I'm sorry, and I get it. I miss seeing you there. I'm missing you there. And that was it. We never spoke again. And I'll tell you that. The the story is she ended up in a very tragic situation and Rehab about a year later. There are just times when we have to choose. You know, what are the, what are the choices? There are the choices? I don't invite her God. That's, that's painful. That's
Painful for that person. So painful are the choices. I invite her but I don't let any liquor in the house. Well, maybe. And I don't, we actually don't serve a lot of booze at anything. But I think this is like a BYOB is what we usually did. But I'm not going to do that because I don't see a reason to do that and she's not going to control the whole party, right? Exactly. Do I let her come and let her get drunk again, which is really weird for my kids because I've been sober before they were born and so they
and Steve drinks a 12 pack a year, you know, and so
What are my options? That's my only ethical in my Integrity is to be honest with
her. So I think
the whole I love that. You think I'm a catch. I love how much you love me. I love that. You're worried about me.
That's okay. And I appreciate it. Not. Okay, to talk about me. I want you to come to the party. The joke thing is as a family that comes from joking and teasing, that always ends up in tears. I think when someone says, and we're really good at it. We've hone the craft of, you know, I think when someone says I'm just joking and you can say, you know what, I get it and it's tricky in our family because we have so much fun giving each other a hard time. This is not funny for me. Hmm. This is
This hurts me and I'm going to have to ask you not to do it and if we have to make joking off-limits, I'm willing to do that and that will be hard but I'm going to ask that we make joking about this off limits. It's not funny for me.
Renee Brown teaches us clear is
kind.
We have to go to Rapid Fire because yeah, I have like very cute. Fluffy minutes that we cherish your time. Okay? Okay. Try to get over that versity level. Shit of that. Telling that woman. I'm like, wow, I'm gonna think about it for the rest of my life. Okay? Oh good doctor brene Brown. What's the one emotion that's hardest for you to carry.
Fear,
what's the one emotion hardest for you to receive in others?
Beer, who makes you
laugh.
My sister's gets jealous about how much sister makes me laugh. What's the thing about yourself that you find most challenging?
Mmm. I'm I can be scary when I'm scared. Hmm.
Okay, what color brings you the most Joy,
teal or turquoise? Whoo!
What's your favorite place on Earth?
Like Travis,
if you could have dinner with any person, Dead or Alive, who would it
be?
My Meemaw,
what's your zodiac
sign?
Scorpio. Hmm.
Interesting. What has been your best Halloween
costume.
I don't do Halloween.
If you had to get a tattoo if you had to like today, someone who said they're coming and they're going to do the thing. What would it be?
God God, that's a good one decompress after a stressful day. The cabal that what song We Know? Music is very important to you. What song is that the top of your playlist
right now?
Oh my God, at the top of my playlist right now is oh Brandi? Carlile. We love
her. I mean end to end with Brandi. What is end with Brandi? It all begins and ends with friends with Brandi. That's it. Dr. Brene brown. We are so flippin grateful for you and I just want to say real quick. I don't even know. I just as we end what the world needs to know about you, Doctor her neighbor.
Is that besides what you already know about her? Most of the time when I'm talking to someone who's in this world, but is like not as far ahead. They say, to me. Well, I just had a call with brene brown, and she told me this and then the next person's like. Well, I just had a, I just had a zoom with brene brown, what you do for people behind the scenes. Yeah. Is real and true and beautiful and nobody gets to see that. And so
So rarely do we see people who are even more of who they are, when no one is watching and that is who you are, and we love you for it forever. Thank
you. Thank you all so much. I just love you all. And I'm glad we're all here at the same time, making our way. Yeah,
before we head out. Let's please
hear from our pods water of the week. This is
my favorite time. Hi Glen and Amanda Nabi. My name is Sarah this morning. I was having a really crazy stress morning as most moms. I
Experience a couple times a week. I was trying to get my three year old and my seven-month-old ready to go over to their Grandma's house for the day trying to pack up all their things. And I was just running around. And I know that my three-year-old who is very intelligent and emotionally in tune, could see the stress on my face. He came over to me and he hugged my leg and he said, I love you Mommy. It's going to be okay because we can do all things and give it just stopped me completely in my
Track his like, you use the advice that I gave you, which one gives me back onto myself, and I was just a really incredible moment. So I just wanted to say thank you for filling my soul and my heart every week with your podcast. It's really obviously made a difference, not only in my life and my children's lives in the way that we can communicate to each other and share information. So I'm looking forward to continuing to listen to your podcast.
The future and please make them for the rest of Eternity. Thanks. Have a great day. I love that so much. I I just think about that little moment and how
I just think it's so cool that this podcast has and can do things like that. It's
just it isn't it cool? How we forget? We know things and then we forget and then somebody in our life just walks right back up to us and reminds us of something. We already know. Uh-huh. We just start we, that's what we're doing for each other, right? We're just reminding.
Each other forget. And then remember forget, and then remember, all right, when you forget this week, that you can do hard things. Don't forget you. Can we love you? We'll see you back next
week.
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