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Derek Sivers
Human Intervention as a Competitive Advantage
Human Intervention as a Competitive Advantage

Human Intervention as a Competitive Advantage

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Derek Sivers
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Nov 14, 2019
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Hi, I'm Derek severs and this is human intervention as a competitive advantage.
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The listening algorithm a year after I started CD Baby when it was still just me in my bedroom
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the CEO and VP of a hugely funded Silicon Valley online music
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company contacted me saying
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they wanted to fly out to New York to meet
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me. I said, okay and we met a week later for dinner dinner with a lot of blah blah blah small
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talk and I wondered what they really
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wanted then they finally got to the real point
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though. The reason we flew
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to meet you is because we've been looking
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at many music recommendation engines and
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the one that's powering cdbaby.com is one of the best we've found could you tell us a little something about the algorithms and the data points you're using
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I was confused and I asked what they
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meant. They said the music
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recommendations on your site don't seem to be sales driven like Amazon the music matching algorithm comes up with Incredible recommendations. What software are you using for that
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I get it? I just smiled and pointed to my ear. I said no software. I just listened to everything that comes in and I recommend other good stuff like it.
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Now they looked
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confused. But how will that scale you can't just listen to every single album. What will you do when you start getting a hundred albums a
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day? I said, maybe
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hire someone to listen. I don't know. I'm not there yet. I'll worry about it then and yeah years later, that's what I did when we started getting a hundred albums a day. It became someone's full time job to listen to every new
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arrival and do the internal recommendations minimizing.
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For maximizing when everyone else is trying to automate everything
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using a little human
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intervention can be a huge competitive
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Advantage. The problem was when business owners see it
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as a cost instead of an opportunity Trying to minimize costs instead of maximize income
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quality loyalty happiness connection and all those other wonderful things that come from real human
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attention.
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You can buy a fancy
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See phone routing system so that people have to listen to nine options choose option five then listen to six more
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options, or you can hire a Charming person to pick up the phone on the first ring and make a great first impression. Which one do you think will win you new
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fans? You can put rules in to your online forms so that if someone puts a dash in their phone number or rights coming soon as their URL, it'll tell them they're
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wrong and make them go back and do it all over again.
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Or you can have new submissions
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be checked over quickly by a real
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person. It's worth the 10 seconds of human effort to keep the end-user experience easy, but the internal data, correct. It's
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fun for techies to try to find the tech solution to everything but don't forget that even a tiny touch from a real
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person can be the best algorithm and a massive business maximizer who should do the work.
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I understand the mindset. It's saying by having
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our software and our users do most of the work we can keep our business efficient and scalable.
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But if you want them to pay you if you want to be more valuable you have to take on more of that
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work. I meet so many entrepreneurs who are convinced. Their thing will be as big as Facebook. So they can't afford to have a personal touch for all those billions of users that are going to come flowing through their
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app.
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But by removing all human contact, they're making their app less valuable. They'll never get big enough for the question of scale to matter. Go to Sever's dot org slash h i
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