MrBeast: 'I Obsess Every Second of Every Day Until I Have a Mental Breakdown' - With Hasan Minhaj

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Grain. The way I like to work is like, I like to go basically wake up, obsess over something. Go to bed, wake up, obsessed. Go to bed. Like every second of the day, until I just have a mental breakdown over now. I just go as hard as I can, every ounce, my entire body and I just crash and somehow that's the same

Abel. I feel like I can rule the world. I know, I could be what I want to travel. Never looking back, we just did an episode with mr. Beast, who is one of the biggest YouTubers in the world. And hustling, men Hajj one of the biggest comedians in the world. That's right, we had mr. Beast Hasan, minhaj. Join us on my first million Live In the Flesh. How did this happen? So, basically, Sean told me three weeks ago, he goes. I'm gonna

rent a house, and I'm going to create this thing called Camp MFM. I didn't actually think he was gonna do it, but he rented out this amazing.

House in North Carolina, he invited like 20 people. He just said to me a DM on Twitter, rented, the house. It was kind of like if I make it will they come? Well, they actually did, we are just sitting here doing our own thing, doing our own interview and they came in during our interview and joined us and it kind of turned out to be the best thing we've ever

done. They crash the interview, they told stories mr. B's talked about what motivates him, who he looks up to how obsessed he is with YouTube. He made fun of us. They told us about their Inspirations how their business Works, how much he spends per video, 1.5 million dollars per video,

Vo. It was pretty crazy. I actually think he

talked about a few things. I've never heard him. Talk about, it was

awesome. Yeah, it was a big deal is awesome. So, check it out. I think you're gonna dig it.

Why is, why

is the power of Shawn? We got me and Sam. We got Hussan Min ha she was a famous comedian. Netflix special. We haven't announced yet, but yeah sure Jimmy, mr. Beast.

Is this crossover? Yes. A while. I just met tonight, we met like an hour ago. Yeah. All right. Give me first impressions. What do you think of mr. B's a cool guy. Yeah, you seem really cool. What did you think coming in? I just knew he's the he's the voice of YouTube, he's able to salvage operation, or he's, how you thought he would be. I feel like he's like, curiosity enthusiasm. All that stuff is really cool. Yeah, I listen to him on rug and he was really, he's really fascinating and what about you? What was your first impression? I mean, kind of same thing. Like it was it me you're just easy to talk to which I think is very nice. Like we were talking for like an hour. You know who Sean, Sean

Turning this into Indian matchmaking so fast. So he said something really interesting

to me earlier. We were just you and I were shooting the shit and I think I you said Elon Musk is like the Pinnacle of Entrepreneurship and I was like, well, what's going to be your SpaceX or what's gonna be your like, big rocket thing? And you said, well Ilan had zip to when he was around my age. So zip to was like his peer sharing service that he sold and made like 20 or 30 million dollars.

Yeah. And then he took that and he did PayPal and then, whatever else he did and you said something like, you know, I think I can build a hundred billion dollar company, but if I'm being modest up, build a couple at least billion dollar companies, but and then you go. But I don't really care about the money. I just love winning. I just want to win and I was like, yes. All right, I'm about this. I like that me. Like

money is cool but, you know, I live in my studio. I don't have like a mansion. I don't drive a Lamborghini so it's like, I like money because it can I can hire more people.

Well, and grow my business but not. So I can like increase my lifestyle or whatever. So that's why I prefer to say I love winning because it kind of encapsulate, sit a little bit more. We went to his office today, I went to studio and he's like, took us on a tour. Cool, this where we blow shit up this boardroom. This, my office is, so we go in and it's basically like imagine, like, kind of like a gaming chair computer. That's standard next to it gets like to other objects in the room, still gonna guess analogy and water bottle. And just like, I'm Ash.

Or a bench. Press directly next to the desk, and then the walls were just like a Steve Jobs, quote a deal on quote, a Steve Jobs. Quote, this is like a timeline, like, at this age, Steve Jobs was here at this, a seaman shit. You're motivated by that shit, they ahead of it. Also, some of those Ilan quotes aren't even real. I love to just put fake Elon quotes So if people read it to see if they're like, oh, that's inspiring or just completely made out there, not that. It's like a one was just one right in front of your desk goes work. Super hard, Elon Musk.

Trying to find the dumbest things elon's ever publicly said so I can put mixed with all the real clothes just to see if people believe them or not. Were you good at school? You know, horrible really god-awful. Yeah, yeah, that was actually my entire High School career, never brought my book back home or anything. I was just like throw it under like the bleachers and then the morning. I just grab it your first videos. What you were like 12, right? Yeah, actually, I started making runs 11. Yeah. Wow. Is your first video still alive? No, because I got embarrassed because people would play it in class. So I deleted my

And then I made a new one when I was 13 a little while but the 13-year old videos are still. Yeah, 13 years. Wow. Yeah. One that's dope. That's like a message to myself in five years. Colin is, she did all this time. So does greatest thing ever did in my life is when I was saying for history test? Yeah, back in long time ago, when I had like, eight thousand subscribers, I was, like, screw this, I just closed my book I doing on the floor and I just recorded a video As schedule, uploaded a video for six months. I go hyeme in six months, I think I'll have a 100,000 subscribers, whatever or NOAA

Subscribers. I was like and then I hit stat worker that hit record. High me in here and I schedule up video Yura. It's like you better have 100,000 and I was like, hi v-- and Five Years, bro. If you don't have a million subscribers, you're a fucking idiot and I just would talk to me but I filmed it when I had 8,000 subscribers long time ago that I did hide me in 10 years Volvo, so 10 years hasn't come out yet but Jaime and five years came out. My prediction was I'd have a million subscribers so goes live on the channel like two years ago and I had like 40 million subscribers and that went public and I completely forgot. Even did that.

And it just I was like, oh shit, I open up YouTube and I saw that everyone thought was that was one of the coolest things ever did. Well and you're like, a little kid in it. Yeah, and so in like three more years, hide me in 10 years goes up and I'm like, I remember what's in it? I'm just like, I hope by now you should be out of college and you should be doing YouTube full time. Like there's just no world you're not after 10 years. Like you're probably making a little bit of money. I just hope you are like, I hope you

didn't. How much were you at the time?

Like, I was at say, case something like making ten bucks a month. And so when they

Goes up. I think that's gonna be crazy. And when we were talking today you like you talk with a lot of certainty about like where you're going, what you're doing. Like if everybody's got this knob that's like doubt your knob set to 0 on doubt that is that accurate? Yeah. Well, the thing is, I don't know. We probably spend like 20 30 times longer think of ideas and other people, we probably film like 10 times more than other people. We probably spend a hundred times for video more than other people. So it's like we put in the effort, but I don't know how to say. Where's that area? I just believe in what we're doing.

You know what I mean? Back then, like, how much do you think you believe when you recorded a video that that was actually no. No, I mean those are just different times. I was in the middle of bumfuck, nowhere or Carolina. So it's like everyone you know? Constantly wanted to remind me, you're not going to be a YouTuber girl, be realistic. I think it's amazing that you never left North Carolina, though you're still a Bumfuck? Not ask. What about yeah? Do you still wrap? It really hard. I mean I just I got to meet some of these people over here. Work there. I just got a lot of people and it's too much.

Always, what was your metric instead of subscribers and like views when you were younger because with with business, it's like revenue or employees. You guys are both business but you're also like a more creative thing. So what was

yours? Yeah, when I was coming up, it was probably did, can you do a set on late-night? Can you do like a cone and said, yeah could you could you be on I'll be a cast member of SNL like those were the metrics those like Legacy Media? Comedy institutions. That was the, I'll be in a movie, I want to be in a sitcom. I want to be in a TV

show and what it feel like when you started actually.

Like The Daily Show and then

selling, yeah, that felt like a real like checkmark like wow, you've turned the

corner. Didn't you tell me that? Yeah, that like right before that happened you are living in a basement

living in an attic, bro. Don't ya addicts are actually above sea level but basements are below sometimes, you know, so yeah, I was living like that. Kind of end up. Not a great situation though. I'm amazed that your confidence, bro. The level of the level of confidence. You have because I still think, maybe a downside of Comedy is you have to have like a very high level

Comedians, are you self-deprecation and self-awareness to be like, you know what I mean? Well, you told me something because I was like, trying to be funny, right? You send me these like iMessage things that are like just gold. Send me these voice notes. And one things you would say, he was trying to write out, he was like trying to do kind of like a comedy monologue. Yeah, YouTube videos up there 70,000 views. No big deal. Yeah. So but you gave me a little hit you go you go on this man bro. You started okay? I'm gonna yeah but he says you go

Comedy is low status game. You start low status. He says, yeah. But is that a trade secret or yeah? Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's like there's High status and low status. Generally, if you're low status, they're going to empathize with you. You know what I mean? So, I wasn't example you get onstage you being like, I got 70,000 views in front of a guy who gets like 50 million views, and but, but without with us more with you, than we are with mr. Beast necessary because you're like, oh man, you know, and if you're if you're like funny about it and to be confident about that if you kind of

It people are like, oh, like I even just now. We did like, it awkward icebreakers of the group. Yeah, if you. And I was thinking about this because my prompt was so your name and say one thing. Nobody in the room knows about you. Yeah. Which is basically, like, you can't be like, I'm mr. Buscemi, can watch YouTube videos. You know, it's like we can't use your claim to fame. You got to use something else, right? And everybody was saying something interesting, and then I think Sully was the first one who's just like I played one game of Little League baseball in my life because I shit my pants and they wouldn't let me come at was really great. Yeah, and unless that iso100, yeah, that's gonna listen to that one.

But he did a low status one where everybody else was saying. A fun fact, a cool fact about totally, he went low and somebody else was like, you know, I remarried my ex-wife, which makes me the biggest city in the world or I guess the biggest city in the world. Yeah, he's like, hey group share something. No one on the planet knows no

one and then five minutes later. All right podcast. Here's what they

said. Yeah. I mean shitting, you're shitting her pants at Little League pretty. Yeah, pretty well status. And then yet being like, all right. I double back to me.

My ex-wife again. Like yeah, no one knows this Jimmy. Where were you

confident as a kid

in the career? Yeah. Just as a kid. No, I fucking got off the acne when I was younger,

what are you not confident about? So you're confident in your work and your ability to hit a certain goals. Whether Revenue

targets at least me and honestly, I'm still trying to get confident speaking in front of large groups of people, which made me want to ask you a question, because how about stand up? Yeah, so let's if I dedicated my life to trying to be a stand-up comic, how long do you think would take for me to get good?

At it. I mean everybody says it takes you 10 years to get good, but I just think it all depends on your natural capacity and inclination for it. Like, there's some people I've seen when they're open, Mike, has are amazing, you know, they just have great stage presence that great stories. They're amazing on stage. So those people like that Comics that I met were, I'm like, the first time I saw them, they were like hitting Jerrod Carmichael was like that. It was incredible. He was just incredible. He was so comfortable. You do open mics and Eva? Just everybody was doing was turning left and he was just turning right? Like he just his

His vulnerability, his stage presence, people would do their set. It'd be like a cone in showcase and everyone who do their polish materially like hey what's up? I'm hustling and you know I'm dating is hard, he would just get up and he was just off the Dome like you a brand-new set that night and how you could tell you could tell you're like oh this is kind of crazy. So how long do you think it would take him to get good? I don't, I mean, it's that's like the question you just asked is like, how long would it take me to? Because as good as Ariana Grande at singing, you're like, how would I even there I guess.

Not if he's not a hack like dude if you asked if you asked like MMA fighter but how long would it take me to get as good as you would like, it's a like you see? That's the look, you put them in low status. You offer the two waters to me now I feel weird. Now I gotta put on the side and I got nah dude. Low-status whole life trying to be high. You got a no no you guys move that water now party go. That's now a party. Yeah, have to give mr. Beast his water. You know what I mean? Jimmy wait, you Legacy Media, hack pour the water for

Aravind. Yeah, it's fuck out of here. Is

your company ran like a normal company at all. Well and the reason I was asking was because my employees sometimes would complain that. I'd be like too aggressive changing things too much. But you see more aggressive than I am. Yeah. And for a certain type of person, they like that, but for you to achieve your goals, you're going to have a lot of people and then everyone small process and every once in a while infrastructure and everyone's around planning your

perfectionist well of course. Yeah I just like to make the greatest YouTube videos possible and that's literally all I want. So yeah. I mean if

Not. There is we just want to upload it. It's after you scrap a few videos. We kind of everyone, you know, just kind of starts to figure it out. This is scary that you can't stop. Do you ever feel like? Damn. I'm like, I'm just throwing all these coals on the yeah. On the Embers of the algorithms use a better analogy. It's like a treadmill where I'm like 12. Oh yeah. Well speed. And I've been going out a couple of years. No, it doesn't scare me, but so like I was telling him the way I like to work is like, I like to go basically. Wake up, obsess over something. Go to bed, wake up, obsessed. Go to bed like every

Second of the day until I just have a mental breakdown over now and then I like to take a day off for maybe a day and a half off and I like to go right back to it. So I don't like work certain days. I just go as hard as I can, every ounce, my entire body until I just crash and somehow that's sustainable. What time do you sleep right now? Usually around 3 a.m. wow. And then what? And then and then you get up at like whenever I they tell me what to do, I don't think I'm just

shocked at like the numbers. So like some big numbers it for revenue for your other businesses. Yeah. And you have to have

Structure for that. So that's why I was wondering. I was like because you are like this. Oh gosh, yeah, so it's on The Stereotype. You're like this crazy creative person who's just organized and that's perfect. Yeah. But to sell that much of candy and or of burgers like you gotta be.

Yeah. So those are all separate entities. So for our snack Grant, we hired Jim who helped build our X bar and we built the team around him, so that's a whole independent company that doesn't even work out of her studio. And same thing would be spur. So that's the beauty I like to just find people who are just the best that goddamn well that their job and then

Just Empower them and give them money. And so how many people work at the studio in the studio like 60, because we don't have enough space to fit everyone. So that's why we're trying to build more of a building things, just take forever. Do you do people like working for you think this? I think these are the masses, like these, like creative types. I'm curious about the plans, man. Because because it's not like a normal company where it's like, we are all

trying to achieve this. It's

like no, we're trying to make money Pig. I've been on both sides of it where I'm on Jon Stewart show. I'm Trevor Noah show, so I'm

I'm facilitating somebody else's show and then I've been on the other side of it where it's like, no, it's my special, it's my show, it's my movie or whatever. So there's also certain projects where I'd be like, I'd love to learn from you. So there's been a shows and movies that have done like the morning show. Like, I've never done a sexy, one-hour drama. I want to learn from Reese Witherspoon. I want to learn from Jennifer Aniston. I want to learn from the show creators. Like, how do you do that? How do you shoot that? What's that lens? What are you doing that? Is that a 50s that is 75. How did it out? How did you do that tracking shot? Why did you do that dragged? Let me see the script. Let me see the future script. There's all these

Things where I'm like, I just want to absorb. I just want to see how you do the whole thing. Marie what I mean like and that's an additive like positive value for me because most people don't have that access to that

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Really does that test pilot. Don't do that bro, when we were at your office, so you have like a big eel on Steve Jobs, you admire these guys that's why you like the how to take over the world podcast because you like learn from them. What's a story that you heard that like stuck with you? They like, you remembered you reference, it like, kind of change the way you were thinking. From those two in particular, I think the biggest thing is that Steve

Become a billionaire from Pixar, you know, I'm an apple and so like the fact that he could go to this, not even hardware company, more creative storytelling company and just kick ass and create films like Toy Story and all these other bangers and just just build that company up to whatever was like them Disney by 47 billion. And what meanwhile, apple is just falling to the ground and about to go out of business and they, you know, buying back with next. And all of a sudden rebounds and just shows like the power of that one individual had, even though both companies had yeah, I don't have a picture of her apple had.

Employees and Pixar, probably had at least hundreds and despite all that, you know, one man can make that much of a difference, like the power of having good vision and just not relenting as invaluable. Do you think your biggest strength is probably your curiosity, your down to do anything? Well. So, I think what you have to do is you have to always be learning, right? So like with our ideas, right? Because we like to do original ideas that no one's ever done. Before thing is like, if there is a hypothetical fruit in Japan that if you eat it, makes it. So you can jump 30 feet taller, right? If that exists in this world right now, you didn't know it existed.

Stood so you couldn't come up with something around that. It's very hyper specific but there's like a million things like that in the world that like if you don't know about it or you're not in taking the inspiration, you can't really come up with something. Like if I were to try again to stand up, like that's how I would try to do something different happen. Try to take in, take a bunch of different information, see what spawns my head. So I try to always be learning with the mr. B's version of Stand Up. Be like, I'm going to do the longest set at under the longest comedy set. Ever would it have to be? Would that be the mr. Beast, like Twist on it? I would have to find something.

Different because obviously the whatever is currently out there because Turner I have a bunch of people my team hurt stand-ups like been done a bunch of time. So we'd have to figure out something, got it different which I would love to one day just because it seems fun. Yeah he talks to me about all the time but in general you gotta always just be in taking inspiration from different places, whether it be different podcast, bookstore different knowledge. I have people that I pay that just teach me things, just whatever, like things

that, what's that make? I don't know.

What do you mean by that? Like, they'll just find things that they don't think I'm aware of or show me. Cool things. And be like, I don't,

You know, this is the thing here, read about it and so that way, I'm always like what's an example and how many how many of these people do you have this? Not right now just like two or three. It Jimmy think they call those people. Those are teachers. Yeah. Okay. I mean he's like he's like they'll sit me down for about an hour at a time and what's Wild is the focus on us subject and it's like what's going on right? Couple hundred grand. The last one is like

About just like crazy online. Things work. Yeah they'll upload a file to read it and then like in size and in cryptic codes take you to a website, which takes you to a book and like these little like Bob's Moltres puzzles and like seeing if that inspired me, I don't know. It's just random things like that. So in point, I'm trying to always expand my knowledge. Well, in my head, with new things. I can draw inspiration. I was given him props earlier where I said, so much of people who kind of revved algorithm are usually being divisive. They're saying something is going

Make you mad, right? Like I have a joke where I make fun of MD's Indios and Deals, get really mad and you know it's like that's like a niche Physicians joke, but people get upset. But while Sam was so cool about what you do is I think really what you've tapped into is joy and spectacle and wonder which is which is like a counter to that and it's very rare to see that really take off on the internet. So what made you feel like I'm going to do that versus do videos that protect that might that might agitate people per se? Yeah, well I do think in general, it is a little bit easier just to piss people.

Often get attention for sure a lot harder to do good and get attention. So that's why I think a lot of people don't. But for me there's a world where I'd make videos and I don't help people. And there's one where I make videos, I do help people. Hmm, one way to help people is just a little bit more fun. So, that's right, do it. I don't, you know, PR one is I should have a better answer but that's kind of the truth.

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What was the first movie that you saw? Where you're like, oh my God, I was blown away your for me is Jurassic Park. Um as a kid I I only watched YouTube grown up. I've seen. That's it. Yeah, we've got made fun of all the time. What was the last movie that you wash? Why? Watch the Spider-Man 3 1? Because by never saw the earlier ones, really? Yeah. Like you have no time for movies, but that was at that time, I just, I don't know. I, I need to like, I need to go back and watch Star Wars, and Harry Potter, and all that stuff to get about up on culture. But I was just like you did. And so you didn't see squid game you just did the squid gonna watch it. Yeah,

Oh God, we did it kind of like I wouldn't count that as movie that I watched on the enemy. But yeah, movies weirdly enough like growing up, I didn't listen to music or watch movies so I was like, so out of culture, wow, they're just part of, I was an introvert. There's just kind of Gregor quote where they're like, you know, he was on BBC or something like, oh, it's a bigger appearance. Not just nice, UFC thing. Yeah. Like, what you think about this team or this game? He's like you said, you know, the yeah, that one you said they're great. It was like, it was like personal or so and they're like, you don't know anything about Arsenal, right?

News. I don't watch sports, I don't do anything. He goes I have lost my mind to the game because I am obsessed with my game. I have lost my mind to it, I don't have time to for anything else. I don't want to know about anything. I was like well how about this game when we were hanging out? I feel like you had that Vibe where you were like, I decided I was going to be a YouTuber. I was going to make great videos and it didn't matter. If I died the most famous YouTuber whole time or 90 years old with a thousand subscribers. I was going to make great YouTube videos. Like that's yeah, that's what I decided I was going to do and that's all I do. What was wake up?

I do that thing. What was that first YouTube video that you saw that like kind of fills you with that wonder where you're like. Wow, this guy actually got hacked like very long time ago, this like Call of Duty YouTuber and they like leaked his earnings and he made like a hundred thousand dollars a year, the last few years and I remember being like 10 and be like, what the fuck they make that kind. They make money doing this and I was just so mind-blowing that they actually made money. More than my mom. Well, yeah, it was right there. When I was like, okay, I'm doing this, like, I just don't care. I'm being a YouTuber or I'm gonna fucking die trying. I just don't care and that

Like the second I saw that was actually possible. That's when I was like, that's it. And it's funny. Also, talking about like, Obsession and stuff like this, because it's funny how it changes, right? When you're like it, maybe it's different now. But when I was younger, like no one to be a YouTuber but it's not exist back then people are like get a live stop, being a fucking nerd. Like you're too obsessive, you weirdo. And now it's like oh bro. He was so obsessive it. He's it's so great. All right. It's seen as a positive quality. Yeah, it's so funny like, looking back on my life going from a fucking loser nerd who's too upset.

Is it won't go anywhere till like damn, that's really inspiring. And it's like, yeah, it was very hurtful back then, but that's inspiring now. I like to bring that up because if there are younger people or parents who have kids, who are obsessive like this, how would you deal with that? Because you have kids, I have kids if they go I want to be a twitch streamer. I want to be a video game or you're like let's go. I had the same realization. I was like, oh so wait a minute. We spend the first 18 years of our life trying to fit in, that's how I felt in school. I'll try to fit in all the time. What what do people do? That's cool. How do I do that thing, right?

And then once I was like in the adult world is like oh shit. Now we spend our whole life trying to stand out like what was all that other shit? Why was I why was I so focused on fitting in? If the rest of your life you're trying to stand out. I just realized like oh shit standing out has been the game the whole time and the way you stand out is not by trying to figure it out, just like whatever you're obsessed with, just let that ride because you'll go on a path that nobody else is going to copy. And then you'll, you know, you'll land in a good spot. So if my kid like, my daughters to right now, right, if she was into gaming, or she was trying to be a Creator, all that stuff. I would be

Be all in on it because I know even if that's not your endgame following your obsession is like the thing to do in life, you know, that will always work out but you know if you like actually go down that path, what most people do is they hedge, they like this thing, but then they see this path that's more proven or shiny or they don't know if it's gonna work. So they only have try, right? And there's like that, hedge is actually what gets you. It's not that this career path was that hard? It's at hedging is like, you know, those are major in college biology, the ultimate. Hey,

Heads. I was different. I didn't know. I don't know. Well, what I think is actually you could be doing there like YouTube. Tick-Tock. Sure. I feel like you can look at his videos and be like, all right I get it. I get why people like this. I can't why this pops probably pretty tempting to be like could I go get 50 million views? 100 million views? That seems nice nod to do what? He's done. What he's done here. You said you spend X number of dollars every video. Oh yeah, I'll get you started off. You can say yea or everything is around 1.5 million dollar. I mean, that's

Well, he's size scale. Look at his archive, right. It's like he took a plastic knife and tried to cut a plastic table and it took him 48 hours to do that. That's a, that was that's a dollar fifty video. That's not a 1.5 million. That's worth 500,000 zero, does a different thing. It's a different thing. So that's like a different type of skill set and muscle. So the types of videos he's producing stand-up is different. If of a musician was here, if a DJ was here, it's not all the same just because it's on YouTube. So we all do different types of media. This is a different type of media. Are you tempted?

Like, you know, dabble talking about this, right? I mean, the only the, the thing that I would be reticent of is what if I have, I have to put this thing out and I don't believe in it or I'm just doing it just to do it. That's the, that would be the problem, but I have to put up a new video every Tuesday. That's the just delete the video. I know. What do you do? If you if you sometimes we do not plan for two months. Yeah. You just only upload when it's a great video. Yeah. That's all. I'm at. Yeah. So I think it's dumb when people

Take two like a schedule and they're like, oh, the views, not great, but I upload every Tuesday is like, who cares? What are you guys trying to figure out right now? So I think if you watch a lot of interviews with people, it's like it's all buttoned up, it's all figured out, they're already successful, it's all working and the person who's watching these videos, typically someone who doesn't have it, all figured out and they're just sort of like it's different. Like, that would be nice to have it all figured out but the reality is nobody's got it all figured out, right? Like we were in your office, the white boards full because you're thinking of new. Yeah. But where are we Goin? What's not figured out. We got to figure it out. So what's on both heels plate of like,

What do you still trying to figure out in your game? Well, I'll let you take it first. Yeah. Shawn would you try and figure out? Yeah. What are you trying to? Yeah, Marcia. I'm trying to figure out. I'll tell you, I'll try to figure out if I want to go all-in on content. Creating what, like, I basically built businesses. I have the most fun doing this, but I don't know if I had the most fun, just because it's a hobby and like, you know, I only get the good, I don't put all the work in a morsel of it then gonna let I mean it's not going to be less. Do you love it? I love doing it the way we're doing it now. Yeah, if I was like him.

Obsessed every hour of every day trying to be like, how are we going to grow this channel? I might not love it as much as you like doing the Twitter thing that for a period of time. It got old. Yeah, we gotta is it was fun to chase? The number, can we get 200,000 in like a few months? Yeah, this is fun to take some number but that didn't that I got sick of it too. I didn't last so that gets me worried, but that's the thing. I'm trying to figure out was like should I go all in on content creating or should I stay with creating businesses? What

what I want to be when I grow up? That's the question. I'm asking myself that exact same question, too. Because sometimes like when you're, when you're