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Fluent sirs and conspiracy theory Peddlers. Love to demonize seed oils. But experts, think their fears are bullshit before seed oils were invented. Everybody was hot and healthy reads. The first sentence of an August 21st, tweet by carnivore, Aurelius, a Twitter account with more than 300,000 followers. The tweets site, statistics claiming to link consumption of seed, oils to an increase in obesity and cardiovascular disease rates. Embedding a photo of a

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Carnival Aurelius is an account devoted to restoring our ancestral. Meat-loving lifestyle is website also sells a branded bag of beef, liver crisps for $89 to clarify its 10 bags. Like other proponents of the carnivore diet like Jordan Pederson or and Route. 8 carnivore? Really has frequently advocates for traditional Family Values, tweeting about how feminism is a scam or idyllic photos of young. Beautiful moms with babies with the caption ladies. There's nothing wrong with you. If you want this over because

A partner at a law firm. It is also devoted much space to pushing the evils of seed, oils term used to Encompass, sunflower oil, canola oil, soybean oil, and so forth.

That was just published a few days ago. Yeah, were you surprised? You know, I think it's so indicative of the times we live in that Rolling. Stones is now writing about cooking oil and not rock stars, but

What's clear to me is that people are waking up right now. People are fed up with the mainstream way of living. The so-called experts have presided over the biggest destruction and health. The world is almost ever seen. I mean, in the last 50 years alone, obesity has gone up from 10% of people to 40% of people. And today is it stands over 70% of people have a chronic disease.

So, of course, we're looking for a way out and the experts know that thanks to the internet and the decentralization of media, we no longer have to rely on them. We can completely circumvent them. I saw this coming for years honestly and it's a little bit surreal that it's actually happening. But in a way, my brand is representative of the clash of the new world and the old world. Let's talk about your brand /.

What you referred to? As I am carnivore. Aurelius and you were born as a person, like everybody else. Yes. But have decided at some point I'm creating this Persona. Yeah. Is it a person? Tell me what it is? Yeah, I can walk you through. I can walk from the beginning and there. How did you get the idea that happened? Everything. Sure. Well there's a funny story when I was in college. I wanted to be an entrepreneur and I organized actually an entrepreneurship dinner with a friend.

I didn't know everyone who was there. We brought in a lot of these HotShots from recruitment, firms, and individuals, on campus. And I'm sitting next to an individual and he says to me, hey, mister carnivore. What do you want to do in life and he didn't call you that bed. Now he called you by your my real name. And I said to him I don't know what I want to do but I know what I don't want to do and its Investment Banking and finance and I go. What do you do?

He goes to me. Well, yeah. Actually the head recruiter for one of the big Banks and like, great. I don't care because I'm not doing it. Yeah, well lo, and behold, 12 months later, I found myself recruiting for finance. Well so six months or so into to have like a premonition in advance that it wasn't right for you did but I still fell prey to it. The carrot that it dangled was luring enough. Yeah. And it seems like that's the one that probably everyone else in your school. Exactly, I didn't know where to go.

Oh yeah, I didn't know how to be an entrepreneur. What else I would do? Honestly, and I didn't want to look like a the foolish friend at that time. Who didn't get the great job? The great job in finance. So, six months in when I realized it was terrible, I almost had this existential crisis, like I knew this would be terrible and I still did this. I still did this to myself, so I don't know who I am. I don't know what I want in life. If I can fall prey to this. Despite knowing, I shouldn't so wasn't only just that the

Was terrible. It was actually that I had no clue how to live my life and be happy at that point. So it was both a very challenging but extremely empowering time.

After that, I left and a number of health issues actually started to arise. So my whole life I had been sick like really from from the age of the from the age of birth. Honestly like I came out, my head was too big. I couldn't fit through the womb had to get a C-section, which improperly colonizes your microbiota. I was not breastfed for too long.

At the age of 3, I was hospitalized with a group like some autoimmune cough condition, for the next call it five years. The healthiest thing in my diet was probably Ben and Jerry's ice cream. I had eczema had acne, I had rosacea it was not a good look, high school. I had recurrent sinus infections. It was just a Litany of issues. We were mouth breather at that time. Do you remember? For sure. I was about everything I stand against.

I said that I recommend against today, I actually I had braces and the whole kind of your head and you now looking back. Realize yes, this was not healthy exact. But at the time this is what other people's lives. Exactly. That's how everybody everyone gets acne. Alright. Everyone feels like crap after a meal. Yeah, yeah, has terrible gut issues but it's still I think was enough to slowly drip like almost like

Water torture, Chinese water torture. Where enough of these drips started to slowly, wake me up, but nonetheless, that something has to change. Yes. But nonetheless, I still didn't change. I went through all the doctors, all the creams, the antibiotics. I even got sinus surgery because I was getting so many sinus infections. I went through the, I went through the Modern Health mechanism and this all came to a head after I left that Finance job.

I had loads of gut issues I had migraine starting with super dehydrated, all the time I went to a doctor and he said you have IBS drink some, Gatorade for the dehydration, take some antacids and you'll be good, but let's run some tests and make sure it's nothing worse. And I said, sure, I trust doctors. I still somehow did at the time but it was kind of the first moment where I realized that the whole medical industry at least in hindsight.

Is treating the symptoms and never the root cause. So I got some blood work done. The doctor found loads of inflammation. Thought I might have some rheumatoid arthritis and autoimmune condition your kid. And I'm like this, no, this wasn't. I mean, yeah, this was in my early 20s. Yeah, but still rheumatoid arthritis is an old person's illness, is not a kid's illness. Oh no. My health was like, I was 60, 70, 80 plus years old. It was not, it was not Stellar to say the least.

At that point, I had actually been somewhat familiar with dieting. I was eating what? I thought was a healthy diet at that time, I was kind of paleo, I was eating a lot of salads. I was eating loads of chickpeas and lentils and everything you hear about that's going to help vegan e paleo or more paleo paleo it was it was vegan e Paley on a way and that there's a lot of plants. I'm a centering my dad around quinoa and all the plant-based this exact, but eating some chicken still.

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was eating probably sweet Green, New York, City salad chain like 10 times a week. At least that was kind of the staple in my diet so I was just dumbfounded. I'm doing everything right again, but it's not working out for me. I feel like death at that point, I saw an article online about these crazy individuals who are eating only meat and thriving.

And I legitimately at that moment in time just said, f it. I'm down. What year was that? This was 2017. Probably. And you know who those guys were and how you heard about it? Like, what was it was an article in Vice? Yeah. And then around that time as well. It was an article making fun of them. Yes, exactly. Around that time as well. Yeah, it's this has been kind of this. I think the standard course, for a long time. This this sort of ad hominem attacks on people around

Time as well. Michaela Peterson was sort of up and coming and Jordan Pederson for curing, her rheumatoid arthritis and autoimmune conditions through a carnivore diet. So, I did a little research but honestly not too much. I was just willing to try anything. Yeah. Everybody taking drugs and they weren't working and drive. It sounds like you were desperate. Yes, I want to say. I hit rock bottom but I hit rock, hit something hard, Rocky. It wasn't the bottom though. Just yet.

Yet, thankfully and legitimately I kid, you not after starting to eat carnivore within three weeks. Like, all my gut issues, cleared it cleared on credit. My skin started to feel better. I started to have energy again, amazing, and it felt like it. Breathed new life into me and like, anybody else that experiments with the new diet, I could not shut up about it. I could not stop telling my friends, my family. What did your kind of or Diet at that time? Look like, at that time it was

Pretty much just meet ya. No, he's not sophisticated. No other food. Yeah, it was pretty much just me water. It was meat water. Definitely, no, Juice Salt. Yes, salt I was doing salt water and salt. I went about his bare bones and as simple as possible but honestly, I didn't even really know why. Yeah, just something about it appealed to me. Something about the unorthodox contrary in nature and all the stories. I've heard about it, especially regarding inflammation and such

But after really just becoming this Echo II became effectively an acolyte for it to my friends and family. Now, who else knew about it at this time? Like Paul saladino already existed. We've talked. We've talked about this a bit. I think we I think we started tweeting it like the same exact time because I do remember when he came into the scene. It was a really nice bun to see that his book is called the carnivore. Kind clever code.

Nice to see some credentials I guess on our side. But I remember around that time. One night at them, Excel would be there was a western doctor. Yeah. Exactly. Who is one of the early carnivore? You and him are probably the early movers of Carnival other than Michaela Peters there are there others as well. Like dr. Shaun Baker, he was actually an MD who is definitely describing the carnivore diet early on and you know, Stanley owsley. Yes, exactly. From the Grateful Dead Fame. Yeah, he was. I think in the 80s actually or 90.

Easy. I think in the 60s he was eating only me remarkable. Yeah, so there was a lineage to it. But let's just say my family and my, my ex-girlfriend and my friends at the time we're not stoked that I was doing this and they insisted that I was killing myself. I went back to the doctor because they told me I had to my parents were like we're going to disown you if you don't get blood work and make sure you're not. Okay. So I went back to the doctor

I told him, hey, Doc, by the way, all those issues. I've cleared up and I'm doing something a little bit kooky, but I feel so much better but I would just would like some blood work done to make sure. Everything's. All right under the hood and he says to me, please tell me you're not doing keto. Said

I'm not, I'm not

little. Did he know? Yeah. Well I told him what I was eating and what he said to me was my name. I will no longer work with you.

Conduct blood tests on you. I cannot endorse this diet. This will be the last I ever. Take your blood work, if you don't switch and eat a more heart-healthy diet, more plant oriented diet. I actually have this message, he reiterated that after my blood work, I had a doctor fire me once too. I mean, this is what I realized. The doctors were no longer working for us dr. Supposed to be an aid in our health Journey but really, they were just

Just covering their own butt. And that to me was like, the last straw that this whole medical profession was not going to save me. Now, it might have been a little bit too Grim at the time because thankfully today there are a lot of great doctors out there, but but the fact that the doctor wasn't interested in the fact that all of your problems were better use interested in you doing something that went against his beliefs, exactly. And that he could potentially be sued for

I didn't know that. I didn't know the soup art is a part of it. Well, yeah. I think they all have pretty high, I guess liability. And if say I say, I went out and had a heart attack, he would probably be sued by my parents or someone along those lines. I imagine. So it's kind of this litigious Society. We live in geared toward this Orthodox mainstream thinking which prevents really stifles a heretic. Oh, unorthodox thinker like myself.

So at that point, but you weren't a reticle unorthodox thinker. You were someone who did everything the right way and it didn't work, and we're experimenting to find something that works. Exactly because you were failed by the system. Exactly, exactly. It was your critical. Now, radical not only in reaction to trying everything. Yeah, but I was in work. I was as the kids would say today, nor me. Yeah, I was a normie conformist Placid kind of sheep. Yeah.

I did everything to the best of my own. Yes, my best of my abilities and it was this Grand Revelation that in our society today.

If you find yourself lost sick and unhappy, there's nowhere to turn and the people, you do turn to will tell you, you have a problem and need medication. There are no adults left in the room with any real guidance and the second you start to actually improve, everyone tells you you're insane and you're going the wrong way. Meanwhile, my life was improving in every single way, shape and form. And I posted a few kind of cheeky memes about this, but if you eat fries and chips and Pringle,

No one will say anything, but I eat steak and eggs and people say I'm killing myself. How does that make any sense? These are foods. We've eaten for all of eternity tried and true tried and true. The Lindy effect as Nassim taleb would say they've lasted. They've stood the test of time. So I started the Twitter actually as a last resort my family, my friends, my people around me, at the time, we're tired of hearing, you talk about this. So I had to take it somewhere else.

And I had to tweet about it. It was my only really are and how did you become kind of a really us on Twitter? Kind of our Alias was a spur-of-the-moment thing. I liked Marcus Aurelius who was this ancient Roman Emperor around 100 AD. I started reading Marcus Aurelius after I quit. That first job actually. And I was looking for any guidance on how to live my life and how to be happy and

Heard Marcus, Aurelius is book. Meditations mentioned frequently. Here was this guy who is the Emperor at the peak of Rome? Like the most power out of anyone in the history of the world probably and instead of using all that power for evil, I mean he could have had anyone killed. He could have had any woman anything he wanted instead. What he did was diary to himself every day about how to live a good life and how to restrain his desires instead of indulge them. So I wasn't

incredibly inspired by this man because my whole life, I've been told to Chase my desires, given to Pleasures given to the Hedonism in the materialism of modern society. But he actually said to do the exact opposite and frankly I found that the more I did it the more I discipline and controlled my desires, the happier I became but I was still very early in the journey at this point towards what I felt was a kind of good life

What Marcus Aurelius inspired me to do was almost diary to myself of what sort of man I wanted to be because that's all his meditations was. So the Aurelius bit of carnivore Elias was just that carnivore. Aurelius, it's not necessarily that it was a new persona. Not I killed my old old person Persona. It was an aspiration for me. A man to look up to that, I couldn't find in modern society around me.

So carnivore Aurelius was a diary to myself of who I wanted to become and it was a self exploration. It was a journey into I'm stepping into my highest self every single day and reminding myself what I need to thrive. It's amazing I remember asking Novelle ramakant about he wrote something that was so beautiful and helpful and I read it and I called him and I said, I just want to thank you for writing. This is like oh I really just wrote that.

That I would remember it for

myself but I didn't I didn't really write it with anyone else in mind. Those were just kind of my notes to myself. Same idea. Well, that's one, its most pure like what I learned from your book as well, like the audience kind of does come last. I was speaking out of necessity. I was trying to give myself the advice, I wish I had so Carnival really is to me, was a aspirational figure, so it was trading out the aspirational figure of a Wall Street, Banker for a new aspirational.

Mayor of someone devoted to becoming His Highest and healthiest self. And the carnivore bit was me just figuring out and confirming that I wasn't killing myself. Eating red meat. Tell me about the anonymous part. I understand the idea of the aspirational. Why you chose the name? Why did you decide to become an anonymous figure for sure. And why is it something that someone else might want to do? Yeah, definitely. So I think I need to set the backdrop, I guess a little bit.

Or I think in the pre-internet era identity credentials and Truth. We're kind of synonymous. Like if you had all the eyeballs on you on TV. If you were Tom Brokaw or if you had a PhD, if you had an MD, you were probably closer to the truth than the random Joe Schmo on the street.

Because these institutions actually had a privileged access to information. They effectively had a monopoly on information, so to get access to research journals, for instance, colleges, the universities have to pay upwards of 10 million dollars a year. I believe it is or ten million dollars over a quarter more than an average person can pay to see these. So if you came along and you're someone like me 20 years ago, spouting out these ideas.

Probably belonged maybe on the Venice boardwalk or you probably a little bit crazy and shouldn't be trusted, because there was no recourse to actual science. There was no way for an average person to read these studies that I'm citing but thanks to the Internet, it's completely shattered, all of these permission slips to credentials. So now all information is available. Exactly. And now, someone like me can say, okay, my doctor says, saturated fat raises cholesterol and heart disease.

So let me fact. Check that let me fact-check you actually and read the study. You're referring to read the study that built your textbook. And actually look at it for myself.

So thanks to like PubMed and side Hub and a lot of these sources we've eradicated the Monopoly on information and it's led to both extraordinarily wacky and wrong ideas but also I think a Renaissance of real truth. So when it comes to anonymity,

I saw early on that I was going to face this interesting problem of how to critique the experts when I was non-experts. And I read something from Thomas, sell who I'm a big fan of. He suggested that the only way to criticize the only way to truly speak, truth to power is to either speak posthumously when you're dead or anonymously.

So at the time did he explain why the idea is that?

Speaking from your persona subjects, the Merit of the idea to secondary importance. So I understand. So it becomes about you exact instead of about the information. Exactly. So this article in Rolling Stone about me, it's about me being right wing. Yeah, it's not about which is made up. Exactly. It's ass. I'm a statue. Yes, and we're really assist that. Yeah, exactly. It's made up.

They can only critique me the person. They're not actually willing to pick apart these studies. I said yes. And honestly what I found was nothing short of revelatory. I mean our whole dietary edifice is upside down just based on flawed studies from the 1950s and the 1960s, and that goes back to this kind of Rolling Stones article that in the early 1900's people were effortlessly healthy.

They ate. You can look at these studies from the USDA even and these ethnographic studies. They four times as much butter. They more cranes, they more sugar, they ate vegetables. They eat more meat, they had more lard and animal fat, they just about every less processed food and less way less processed food. They just about more of everything demonized today, other than processed food, and they were totally fine.

And then you could look at sort of Weston, a price has work or some of the tribes that are still healthy today like the hodza or the Maasai, or the cemani tribe. And they're still tribes out there that are thriving with no heart disease. Yet they're an affront to almost all of our dietary guidelines. I mean, the hodza and Messiah subsist off, largely meat, and milk, and blood, actually in the case of Maasai and the hodza. He pretty much meat and huh.

Honey, which is a sugar obviously demonized today as well, the cemani tribe, they eat ninety percent of their calories as carbohydrates and when they were surveyed or recently in the 90s or 2000s, the researchers found the lowest cases of heart disease, ever recorded in history. So there are these tribes out there and these populations, Even in our own country who were thriving

yet we still demonize the foods that they were using to live their healthiest and Vitalis and most vital lifestyle

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Do you think there's a financial basis for that demonization? Is it corruption? Or is it something else?

You know, it's a tough question. I think the Arca are the hanlon's, razor approaches, kind of don't attribute something to malice. That could be attributed to stupidity. I think that's part of it, but I definitely think there's a monetary play that emerged over the years. I mean, I can walk you through the story of how red meat kind of became demonized, okay? Because it is I think a helpful illumination and to what happened, because in the early,

Heart disease was not really a phenomenon and the United States but between 1900 and 1950, it. Absolutely ramped up and this all came to a Tipping Point when Dwight Eisenhower the president at the time, had a heart attack in the 1950s, I believe, or the 60s. And this sent the whole country into a panic. We were looking for any way out because everyone just assumed, they were going to be dropping dead, which it did feel like at the time, according,

NG to some of these reports. So they sent a guy named ancel Keys may have heard of to survey populations around the world with various heart disease rates and determine what factors might be contributing. He did. What was now known as the infamous? Seven countries study he found seven countries in Europe, effectively drew a straight line from correlating on the

Axis saturated fat intake and on the y-axis to their cholesterol levels. So what do you found was that saturated fat intake? In those seven countries was correlated with cholesterol levels in separate studies at the time, they found cholesterol in the plaque of all the heart disease patients. So, kind of through this game of connect, the dots we jumped on this conclusion and this hypothesis because we were desperate and we assumed that saturated fat increase,

Cholesterol which led to heart disease. Truly, it was that simple. There are other studies in the early 1900's on rabbits where they enjoy, even reality, we don't know. Now that eating high cholesterol foods, raise your cholesterol. Yeah, number one, and number two, we don't know that high cholesterol in your body causes heart disease. Both are false. It's not that one of the two or. Yes, what I pointed out in the seed, oils thread, that was just critiqued by Rolling. Stones, was that?

Since that point in the 1950s, we've actually done a number of randomized, controlled trials. So Keys data was all correlational. We just assume that people who tend to eat more saturated fat tended to have higher cholesterol and this led to heart disease, we didn't separate separate randomize and control for an intervention to actually test. So, correlational studies are great to build a hypothesis and it was great. They're not proof, but they're not proof. So

All we did was try to prove it. And what did all the randomized studies show actually the exact opposite? In many cases there's a study called the LA veteran study, which I think is actually very interesting. It was done on 200 veterans in the 60s where they took one group of veterans gave them their normal diet in cafeteria and another group of veterans, they substituted all of the saturated fat for seed oils. What happened? Was that over?

Years actually the group eating less saturated fat had a slightly lower cholesterol actually a slightly lower rate of heart disease but what they did have was double the rate of cancer over those eight years. And what the researchers concluded was that we can't study the impact of saturated fats and unsaturated fats on your diet. If the study is not conducted for as long as eight years because these oils take a long time to build up in your fat tissue.

Now, the problem with all the modern evidence that people tend to rely on is they're very short-term controlled trials where we see that maybe in two weeks time on an animal or on a human that unsaturated fat tends to lower cholesterol levels but what's happening over the course of eight years? So now back to the LA veteran study, yes, it may have reduced heart disease, marginally in that study. But the group eating saturated fat also had double the rate of

Heavy smokers in the end and their group. So something about saturated fat protected against cancer in the heavy smoker group, actually, but possibly caused more heart disease. And there are few other studies just like that. There was one called the Minnesota coronary experiment, which showed for every kind of 34, every 30 NG it does per deciliter reduction in cholesterol, there was actually an increase rate and heart disease.

And a few of these other controlled trials, which call into question this whole diet heart hypothesis, this whole edifice, but no one's really talking about these maybe because you can call it corruption. You can call it self interest.

It's unclear to me. But what I do know is that there was a rash decision to reorient, our diets away from red meat and towards some of these processed fats that in my opinion has been suspect and Grains. I believe in grains as well. Yeah. In the bank, if I remember growing up the food pyramid. Yeah, they told us to eat six to 11 servings of grains a day right on the bottom of the food pyramid grains and legumes I believe. Exactly. And Brody Barnes someone I

Who's was a thyroid researcher in the 70s.

Had a great quote saying, substituting these polyunsaturated fats in our diet, or seed oils, as some people refer to them today is like playing Russian roulette with our health, except no one's given the choice whether or not they're playing the game. So there's a very mixed bag of evidence on the seed oils as what I am to say and there's absolutely terrifying evidence and animals about what these are

Do to your brain to obesity to cancer rates. Yet we've turned them into now today, 20 to 30% of the American average American diet. And we went what our seed oils in for your average person who doesn't share a attention to their diet, where the seed oils. Sure, seed, oils, largely come from oils like canola oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, soybean oil,

I remember in the vegetarian Community canola oil was considered healthy oil. Exactly. And it still has Heart Association heart, healthy logo on it today. So these oils Bar None have been by far, the biggest change in our diet in the last hundred years and they didn't even exist in the 1800s. And now, as I mentioned there, almost 30 percent of the average Americans diet there in all processed foods there in almost every restaurant. If you eat out there cooking with it, if you

Take out, if you get over eats their dousing, it and these oils, its they're cheap, and they're so called heart healthy, and you have an incredibly hard time avoiding them today. So, one of the biggest problems with them is that they accumulate in your fat tissues for up to eight years,

And we are in totally unknown unparalleled territory. When it comes to see those. We don't know what happens to humans. When we have this brand new fat and our tissues, the fatty acid content of our fat tissues, the amount of linoleic acid which is from seed oils in them has gone up five times and just the last 40, 50 years. So the average human today, they're fat tissue is now like 30% seed, oils, which is a totally novel phenomenon in history. Now, it's a

Very controversial topic and a lot of people would disagree on us still. So my take on it is stop playing Russian roulette with your health. Use olive oil if you really don't want to use butter, right? Use something that has stood the test of time like olive oil where you make and if someone doesn't, why would someone not want to use butter? Talk about butter. Sure. Butter because your doctor probably still thinks the saturated fat from butter is killing you?

Because there's still sort of this idea in this Paradigm, that saturated fat increases your cholesterol, and that will lead to heart disease. Now, I also really do not recommend, especially for the carnivores out there walking around with a cholesterol, that's 250, 300 400. I think high cholesterol actually is potentially damaging, but not for the reasons why we've been told. So one of the things we knew as early as the 1950s,

Is was that high cholesterol was a biomarker for low thyroid function, actually because thyroid is necessary to convert cholesterol, into all the youth hormones, like testosterone progesterone, all the stuff that makes it fun to be alive and vitamin D actually as well. So high cholesterol is a biomarker and an indicator that something is going wrong metabolically and you should figure out what that is.

Now, the difference in my stance is that I don't think it's as simple as tributing. All the blame too, saturated fat and butter and steak because steak is much more complex food that just saturated fat and removing it from our diets because been a quite a big problem for our health. You're sharing your experience of what worked for you. Whenever I read any sort of diet or health recommendation, I always

How does the writer know? This is right for me? Yes, because I've tried things that were good for other people and they didn't work for. Exactly. Yeah, I'm a fan of radical experimenting because I do think people are different and you need to kind of embody an idea. Run the code, if you will to know if it's true. So, one of the mantras I've stated a number of times is, don't trust me, like, please don't trust me.

Verify this all for yourself. I don't want to be trusted. These are things that just worked for me. I think in a perfect world, The Right sort of Health practices should work for most people. The challenge today is that I like to think of Health like where we should be on these tracks like a train that is healthier, entire life, think living in a chord with nature. Like I said, if you go back in time to these hunter-gatherer tribes health,

Happiness. That's our Birthright. Actually sickness was the anomaly, whereas today is the opposite. So it shouldn't need to be too complex to be healthy. It feels like as a species, we are becoming more and more disconnected from nature. Exactly, and what happens when that train is on the tracks? And it, veers off track, it will break and light on fire. You can't take a train on fire and just put it back on the tracks, actually, it will still be on fire. So I'm

Huge advocate of returning to nature, but I don't think that returning to nature.

Can necessarily autograph, it's not enough for a lot of people because there are fires today that we need to put out first before you return back to nature. But in essence, I think you can Define sickness and even depression and unhappiness as

Being misaligned out of harmony with your true nature, with not knowing who we are, you have to be kind of. So ignorant of who we are today to live like we do to live in these boxes and cities and living, these could incredibly unfulfilled lives where we work for a boss. We, hey, we're under blue light all day. We eat seed oil slop for dinner. This is just so out of alignment with our

Higher evolutionary history. As beings it would be almost like taking a lion. Putting it in a zoo, only feeding it salads, shielding it from the Sun and then telling the lion, it has a problem when it gets sick.

It's the environment, it's everything around us, it's not us. Like if you have a health issue it's not you. It's a sign that something is out of whack in your environment and your lifestyle, and your in your diet. And So based on your experience, what are the things lifestyle was there? Made the biggest difference. Yeah.

So I've yeah, I've been through a big Journey with health at first. I would have said only, diet matters, eat me. You're going to be okay. But since then, I've my Approach is actually become a lot more holistic because we are holistic beings. And everything we do is like food. Everything were ingesting is affecting us. And when I say ingesting, I mean, the light through our eyes, the emotions in our body, the breath. So,

I have one here from our shower. The water water we drink, but the water. Yes. That Rings gonna scare some people. We're gonna scare some true. It's true. And I now think of there being kind of eight or so pillars of Health, I can list off the pillars quickly and then I could even give some super practical tips for each of them to help people. What did you get pillars? 8 pillars. See if we can. Remember these all died diet?

Toxins and detoxification that's part of Hannah died. Is the first, okay, the second I would actually single out toxins and detoxification because we live in this particular world with we're bathing in literally and metaphorically a ridiculous amount of toxins. Okay. Next is sleep for this movement sleep, for his movement, fit his breath.

Fifth is breath.

Light 6 is light 7th stress.

Stress eighth is play play. Having a silly goose time and is is it 1 through 8 in that order or not necessarily not necessarily okay? Now that's just a list of it. Yeah, let's start with the thing. I think everyone should agree on because in some ways the diet Wars are a bit of a distraction. Okay. I think everyone that's caring about their diet is on the same team and you can make some big changes without

About and a v inverse carnivore. Right off the bat, at least toxins.

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Let's talk a little bit more about the carnivore diet. Yeah, before we go into the list. Okay. I think it's really interesting. One of the things that the carnivore diet does is the Elimination Diet. Yes, which is a really interesting one. Yes. If you reduce what you put in your body to one food, whatever? That one food is anything that you're allergic to. As long as it's not that one food you've stopped putting in your body. Exactly. So, let's say you're allergic to Sprouts and you don't know that you are

Victor Sprouts, you'll solve your Sprout issue by becoming Carnivora 100% And what's unique about carnivore. Well, first off to your point people, we see people, we see benefits dramatic benefits from any diet. That's actually just one food. That's what I'm saying. That's like potato diet. Yes, rice diet, yes. People benefit tremendously, yes. By shrinking your diet to one food, eliminates 99.9% of the things that you might be eating that are causing distress that you

Don't know are causing distress. Exactly. And the one thing though that's unique about carnivore, in terms of elimination diets is that it's nutritionally, replete, meaning it has every single nutrient, your body requires, whereas just eating rice and just eating potatoes actually would not so nutrients. When I tend to recommend red meat to people, their first reaction is like, oh yeah, I just need it for the protein, right? I think people's assumption is that read me is just bro, protein, but what? They don't know.

Is, it's actually a multivitamin. It's full of B vitamins, it's full of taurine which there was just a recent paper, the showing that taurine increases longevity and every single animal studied and touring is nowhere to be found in plant Foods. It's high in creatine creatine. A recent study showing the associated with lower rates of cancer credible for your brain vegetarians who supplement with creatine increase their cognitive performance. So there's something that's clearly missing.

Hang on those, on those diets. There's carnitine there's:, there's selenium I can go on but red meat is just truly Nature's. One of Nature's multivitamins along with few of these other organs and and subcenter clearly tried and true for humans for as long as we've been. Yeah. If you if you go back in time, I mean one of the hypotheses that you know, Paul saladino is recommended as well as that humans. Have a

She's specific diet just like a dog. Does just like a lion does and the way in which we understand that it's probably by going back in time to see what we evolved to eat. So if you go back, call it to two million years. Even there's a hypothesis called. The expensive tissue. Hypothesis was that unlike Apes humans have a very small:, so Apes have a massive: because they eat these leaves all day and they ferment.