Alright boys we are back with another fulsome podcast we took about is it three weeks off almost there almost a month right for week Hiatus little four-week Hiatus. Honestly boys straight up just felt like we needed a little bit of a break straight up. No fucking super explanation. We were on a crazy-ass. Happy Dad trip. We launched the state of Pennsylvania. We launched the state of Georgia for happy Dad. So it's just been a super super busy time for happy Dad. It's also a pretty good run. I was like what?
But two years straight. Yeah, I almost didn't miss a week. We take like a week or two off here and there but we just wanted to take a little break just kind of reset and then come back with some fire a spots. So we got a fire episode today. We got Patrick, but David we're at his office value value attainment. I don't know. We're going to Cigar Lounge in his office right now. You don't do much much research for this one day. I did. Not you didn't I mean, yeah, I watched my know who he is. Yeah. He's yeah you got to do.
Danny asked me is like so is this guy like Andrew take everybody was a gambling like sports gives you wonderful. Just Patrick that day. What the fuck? No, it's hilarious. He actually do real estate, right? He just like a he's like this. He's a businessman. He's a speaker and I'm trolling he's kind of like a like he's kind of like a Joe Rogan honestly at this point and like a way. No, I actually really like him. He preached been doing some patrese interviews, but you just came from Brazil, right? Yeah straight off the plane.
And did one night in Brazil one day for like probably eight hours quick eight hours in Brazil for Steve's IRL straight to the favelas straight to the airport straight here. So what you you flew there you were there for eight hours and then you dipped. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's fucking hard work straight up. It was pretty successful. I personally the IRL shit's pretty fun. It's just not really like, I don't know if it's meant for me, but it really fun. It's just so different, bro.
You really have to put on for five hours straight. It's kind of hard. I think we'll we did it twice. I think they were both pretty good. You just need more people. That's it. Yeah, but I also think it's not something you could do once a week if you really want to I think every time we do it will get clipped up, but I think if you really want to maintain that high live viewer rate, it's not something you could do once a week. Hmm, and that's why I was talking to Steve about that too. And I was just like honestly for me.
Personally, I don't think I'm at that stage. You're in your David goggin stage the no I'm not I mean, it's just I know what it takes to do that and you'd have to do it two three times a week. Well, don't tell him that cousin. He's gonna want to ask me to go out with you tonight. I want Steve to this week. I think I think Steve could kill it though. I told him I said he can't I think for the IRL shit, I think that that he should just kind of lead the way with that and do it on the Steve will do it page and
Yeah, maybe any I'll pop into his shit and I'll give him ideas but I think with the Pod and happy Dad and just running everything else. I won't be half time to like lead the charge and do what it takes. Yeah, for sure because whenever I look at something that like we're about to do or enter. I always know what it takes and it's like you got to have that mental endurance. You gotta you gotta be consistent. So I think once a week is good
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sponsor. So yesterday we have to shop here on son Hugh crowns Crown Prince res up a levee. I'm a October 18 1978 baby. The reason why you see a lot of Iranians in America the business the Creator's job people like that that are Hustlers that are creating economy. They left Iran.
And After the Revolution the sun yesterday was the first time he agreed to do a three-hour long form podcasts. Thank you
to in his position. Again.
He is the Crown Prince of Iran. He is the son the son of King of Iran that fell in 1979. Yeah, so too. So we're trying to we're trying to make sure the intro everything comes out to waiters. He made a comment in the interview that's never been made before ever because everyone's been expecting him to go back and do the job.
This the first time in 44 years. He says I don't want the job. So it's going to be released and no one knows it yet. And it's the Iranian Community is going to be blown away by what happened is acting now it's coming out today today or tomorrow. So when it's going to come editing right now the intro that's what we're working on on the other side, but
just wanted to let us know who you had on before you come to the no point. No.
No, it's what the meeting I was coming in from and that's what I was talking to Sam about. So, it's purely on my mind. That's all I'm thinking about right now. You know how you have lucky?
I feel like you're doing something with a trump or a you know, you got a big interview coming up you want the intro to be perfect. And that's what we were
working. I'm curious why doesn't want the job
out. Why does he not want the job? So, you know, it's a very interesting thing because as a I don't know what your father did for a living. I don't know what your father did and my dad was a cashier at a 99 cent store in Inglewood. Okay, so he made 1,500 bucks a month. That's not somebody where you have the pressure of man. I gotta outdo my dad because my
My dad's last name is Trump. Jordan. Carlson Obama. You don't have a lasting that carries the weight but this guy his dad was the king of Iran. He started raining Iran at the age of 21. He becomes the king. Oh, he's there for 37 years, bro. Do you know how much he increases the income in Iran in 37 years? Like what do you think is a good number for you to increase the country's numbers. Give me a number 20 x
DX. Yeah, either 423 X wow has he increases reading from 1% of the population
owns 19.
So go back 37 years from 79. So what does it make it if you go back 37, is it 42 43? Wow. Yeah, and then his father the Shah's father was razaaq on it was a general fear like an Alexander the type of guy you know, who?
Who was killer at the same time feared and respected a combination of dad and he was in Exile all the time. Now, you're the grandson of him. Yeah, and you're the son of that being your father and your everybody for 44 years is expecting you do go back and bring freedom to Iran the pressures on you no matter where you go. And yesterday I finally asked him a question. I said you want the job or are you willing to do it because you have to do it and he doesn't want the job. So the pressures like hey your dad's Michael Jordan.
Right, you gonna be like him, right? So not everybody is going to relate to that unless people who have had that kind of a shadow before them. It's a shadow why a pastor's preacher's kid does things because everybody's like your dad's a pastor. You should do good if there's a certain level of pressure that comes with him.
What was I know you grew up and I ran like what was it like growing up growing up there before you moved
here? So what was it? Like, okay, so I'm I was born three months after the king got kicked out. Okay, so I don't know what that era was like The Arrow of the
60s and 70s, you know, like think about who's the most beautiful girl in the world today. If you put a name out there you could say Margot Robbie. You got a lot of names would you
say I'm not gonna say I'm the pot. I can't I can't shut that. Who would you say Livi done? You know her first gorgeous. Yeah.
Don't say her give another one that you can give some credit to who would it be
Megan Fox was like a smoke back in the day. Okay, so no Robbie Megan Fox lived.
I would say
Robbie Wolf of Wall Street. Yeah, Megan Fox Transformers Transformers one which in Sanskrit insane the most people's her in Shyla buff were out. I'm not interested. Of course. I love Mark Walsh, right? Shy is a
younger rated now MGK got in there. It's like what you see white semi about Fury. Which part where was Shia and fury. No,
you never seen Fury. Of course. It's actually would Brad Pitt. Yes and the tank they're sitting there in the kid has pianned cuz he's nervous about to it's a phenomenal
movie.
About a story how he's so fucking like dedicated to the game that he felt like his character needed to have a missing tooth and he yank his tooth out to get into character onset.
He's one of my all-time favorites alternative. I love that guy. Did you ever see the movie? He did acting his father. Have you ever seen enough? Oh my gosh. How about Even Stevens? Even Stevens is which one's Shelly come on
bro. We're boy. That's those are early stages. Yeah, it was a kids show.
And take that away from him he but anyway
fire so he did a movie. He did a movie on his father and acting like his father and there's a scene where he's like 10 11 years old hooking up with a prostitute at this hotel. He's staying at and then after he's done doing the movie because his dad was a creative actor, but he was tough. I think Amazon did this movie it. Maybe it's called honey boy. I don't know if you guys can look it up. I think it's called honey boy and he plays finishes this movie.
And he says Dad. I want you to be the first person to watch this movie and I want to watch you. So he puts the movie imagine you're playing your dad a complicated human being he puts a zoom camera to watch his dad watching him act him. He says it was the most pressured moment of my life. I think he was going around promoting the movie phenomenal movie. But anyways going back to a yeah, we went from Rob. Yeah
king of a rata hottest
smoke shows in the world Margot Robbie to you know,
But yeah so back then Iran in the 60s and 70s. The point I was going to make is Margot Robbie Fox. You know, Don Elizabeth Taylor was that in the 70s and the 60s and Iran any worldwide. It was her it was Sophia Loren Sophia Loren was she from her and I know she's from the state, but she was the
hottest girl. Okay worldwide.
She was everyone's fantasy. Okay, it's pre your age. This is a long time ago Elizabeth. Taylor's a different store. She was married.
Eight times The Ambassador in Iran to us was dating Elizabeth Taylor. She would go visit him Frank Sinatra Davis jr. All these guys would go to Iran to put concerts because Iran was the place you would go to Party. Most people think about Iran. They think desert like Cameron when I was in the military that would say, so did you go to school on a camel? Did you go to school on a donkey? Like, you know, they think about the, you know, the phrases camel jockey stuff. Like I'm like this. I've never seen the camera my life before I see many
Donkeys. I've just never seen a camel in my life in Iran and but Iran has these mountains snowing skiing ink like Aspen of Iran is insane parties really it was unbelievable was one of the top three countries in the world where the rich would go for vacation like, you know people go to the Alps Iran was one of them like if you were weld like Iran was Dubai before Dubai was Dubai. Yeah, except Dubai doesn't have the mountains to buy this and have that device flat.
Iran has the mountains and so for me. My memories are posted. I heard those stories, you know, there was a club called kabaddi Tehran cover it around was like Studio 54 credible nightlife you go. The you had no clue was going to be there at any given moment. I was there post someone who many came through to us. It was warm. I have never played outside. Like I've never had never had permission to play outside as a kid. My dad was worried about because kids were getting kidnapped and they would steal your your body parts and you would find your kid in a
Tell would body parts missing but they're selling it for quarter million to man 100,000 to man 300,000 tomb and that's how money was be made. That was a big
business. Who was Arise at war with at the time
Saddam Hussein and it was Iran and Iraq. It was it was ugly was
constantly of kids are cutting them
open some of the body parts. I like that. Yeah absolutely was a business model back then in or so parents feared kids playing outside. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was a different. It was a different life, but you know like a couple things about Iran.
When I came to the states and I went to Junior High School Wilson Junior High School in l.a. Glendale and they're giving me math. I'm like, why are we doing math that we did in fifth grade. They're like no. This is algebra. So now I get about we did this in fifth grade. You did this in fifth grade. Would you do this on 50 in Iran? We were why are we learning
you were ahead in Iran Iran's
math the level of advancement and math in Iran is
unbelievable. Really yy-you. That
is because because the shop
I mean it's a tradition that he you know, he invested billions of dollars in education. And one of the ways he says he felt he was going to compete with the world was simply Through Math if we can get our kids to be better in math. Everything is math, right everything we're doing right now is math angles or math when you started it timeline how long we're going segment question you ask sponsors. When you put the sponge you put it at three minutes do your intro first, then you do the sponsor. Everything is Matt. This is all mathematical formula. So Iran was big
On making that investment and you know when you when you come to the stage, like wow, you know, you think you're dumb and Iran in math. You come to you as your Laguna pretty smart in math or am I smart or dumb based on the standards? I'm in so we've dropped the ball in America immensely when it comes down to that but Iran they were very much focused on math and education. It was just
messy. I want to ask you going back to you said your father was a key work to the Earth as a cashier at a 7-Eleven or
I said story and I sensed or
yes. So where did you said your previous interview pressure from the parents? Where did your pressure come from to become successful
actually had no pressure to become successful as a kid. My parents never looked at my report cards. So I don't have you know, you look at my reply with one point. Oh GPA. I just love math. I didn't could care less about anything else. But when I went to the military right after my mom goes back to you Ron. I'm staying on my
Sister's place we partied till 4:00 in the morning. This was a time where my seven days a week. I'm partying. I'm just that's my life. And I did that till about 24 25 and one day 25 at a club in l.a. Highlands big fight broke out and I'm like this the last time you can find me at a club cops arresting us. I'm out of solution gotta let me go but prior to that I was going to do 20 years in the Army is what I was going to do benefits travel, you know systems. You have to be at a place food chain Hall you
Did you become a sergeant you do this? You become an E6 you've been in for 10 years you make thirty two hundred dollars a month. It's a very predictable thing that you can do. So I got in and then one day.
I'm in Fort Campbell Kentucky. One of my friends calls me Cogan and he says what are you doing? I said, I'm re-enlisting tomorrow all the orders. I want it. My Colonel got me Colonel peacocks Sears DLI sere school is a school you go to that they can break small bones because they're teaching you to be a poww prison Awards a very intense school. Are you go through these used to be very hardcore. So I got DLI, which is I spoke four languages so I can they can use me for different languages to go, you know.
You better points to move up Special Forces 18 Delta fifth group. And then I was able to go to Vicenza Italy which is the base. You want to go to like debase to go to party van. But at the same time you're in Europe and I get the orders Coke and calls me says Patti should get out of the army. You can be realistic. I said dude, I'm reading listening to more for six years as you can do that. You got to get out why this is all of our friends man. We think you can do something with your life if you get out like down and I'm really listening is I want you to think about it for one hour. He's pitching me on getting
Meowth hour later I'm like going to sleep. I can't even sleep I wake up in the morning I go to Colonel peacocks. It's a colonel. I hate to disappoint you but I'm not really listening and they went to Virginia to get my order. So it was a big deal. Anyways, I get out of the army. I'm a Hummer mechanic. I can't find a job. There's only one Hummer dealership in not Thousand Oaks or whatever that area Camarillo area and then I'm dating a girl Jean viewer. Who's working at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. I get a job at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter day before 9/11
I give my series 766 to all these licenses and I love my job then 9/11 happens and then I leave I go to trance. We're at a party when I say trans. I mean Transamerica today, you got to be careful when you say go to trans because you know, you could say Patrick's transitioning. I wasn't I'm a straight guy and I'm happy with him. But yeah, so I go and you ask the question about what got the fire. We're at answering Christmas party 25 years old.
My dad's going around talking to people one of the relatives disrespects my dad in front of me in a subtle way because my dad was a guy that helped everybody out, but he lost everything divorce. So he was kind of like seeing you went from being the guy that was a chemist. Now, you're a cashier at a 99 Cent Store. You don't have a wife. You're this you're that and I've never felt that kind of a rage in my stomach ever before I don't want to hurt this guy because he's a sweetheart of a guy.
But I hated the fact that somebody talked to my dad that way and he felt he had to permission to talk that when I feel like I gave him the permission. My father's only son. I can't even tell you what it did to me. I told my dad we're leaving a party and he says we're not leaving you are my party is tonight. We're leaving. We're not going to stay here. This is no you're not going to disrespect me pain. I said know that we're leaving we leave 30 minutes in the car were going from Glendale to Granada Hills were fighting.
I said I'm going to make sure the world knows your name. I'm going to make sure everywhere you ever go They're Gonna know who your son was and how amazing of a father you were. So my dad couple weeks ago. He's having heart surgery down the street here and the doctor comes in. He says I know who you are. This is how do you know who I am is because I know your son and I also know there's only one other knows I've seen that big and that's your son and you know, they're laughing they're joking, but you know, that was the first
I'm romick. Okay, what are you going to do with this fire? And then it wasn't about becoming financially free cuz you want a big house or a car all it was because in the back to the byproduct of that was the money under wealth, right and it's proven and then from there on you have to find new fires to keep going because what are you going to do when you got money in the bank now? What do you working for? Its Aid? It's got to be different
reason. Am I fired me up got me motivated for sure. And then how do you how do you go and start what you have now with value tainment and stuff.
Tough and everything you're doing now.
Yeah, you know, so there's a quote that really messed me up when I was 26. It says sometimes on a way to a dream you get lost and find a bigger one. Like
what does
this even mean? You lost the find a big one? Look I'm gonna do Financial Services till the day. I die. I mean, I'm good at it. I'm liking this. This is fun. You know, what? Do you want me to get from this quote? So then twenty six twenty seven twenty eight Twenty Eight. I hear the magical words for my parents. I'm proud to be from both the more
Should we believe them you know sometimes moms will say they're proud of you because they love you and your dad if you're Middle Eastern will never say it but then I finally heard it and I looked him as I actually believed you. Okay check that's been checked off. I wanted to hear that but 28.
It's kind of like sitting around saying what are you gonna do? You know, what are you going to go and had a handful of people that I respect a lot. They were my advisors. I had a meeting with all of them and I say guys I need your help. I want to know what I do next and they said what I mean is I want to know what I do. Next making money is easy. This is America capitalism. You can make money if you do your part, but it's got to be more than that. So who's the enemy? You know, what am I fighting for? I got a book coming out on December 5th called choose your enemies wisely business planning for the audacious few. I think three components of somebody that does something very big.
Their lives one. They experienced unconditional love from one person. You only need one person to give you unconditional love for you to know that's possible and it exists. Normally at someone's mom. Will you need Aunt meaning you can get arrested you can do anything you're doing that person's going to love you. No matter what you have to experience that number two successful. You have to have that because you have to know that it's worth the pain love is worth the pain you're going to go through in the chaotic times the
Second thing you need is Hardcore betrayal and pain from someone you loved so you love somebody so much but no matter what you do. You're never going to get this person no matter what you do. I don't know if you guys have read along Muscle Milk or not. It could be a female could be a father. Yeah, it could be a mother. It could be a uncle it could be a could be anything but it's pain pain. So you're constantly engaged and proven to this person that you're worthy but no one knows. It's a secret.
Between you and that person. It's a relationship and you're never going to win but you need it. And the last one is to write enemy. Most people don't choose the right enemy. Most people choose a dumb enemy that gets them for three months or three weeks or couple years and even brings out the bad side of you but if you get the right enemy going it can bring out a whole different side of you. So, you know going back to what you're talking about the plan or Division and the wealth. I'm going there I decide what I want to do. I realized an insurance. It's a very small space Nobody Knows the best insurance agent if I told you right now is it
Best insurance that you would laugh at me like what is you know, who is there anyone knows there's no SportsCenter Tanana down and I you know, this guy wrote 72 policies tonight, but media is the way to go and at the time I didn't know what I was going to do with media, but I watched it and then in 2012 2013 is when I started a YouTube channel kind of testing got content on business and then maybe we can turn this into a media company. Now, we turn into full-fledged consulting firm or consulting firm will be a billionaire or consulting company probably.
In two years tuning Consulting for what for businesses for seniors executive, you know helping you raise money putting your pitch deck together, you know, you're having challenges with your partner being the mediators there or strategy for your comp plan on
how that's a variable separate thing from the media's. Nobody knows about another. Oh, yeah that nobody how many clients do you guys have for
that? Probably have 3,000 clients. Wow. Yeah 3,000 clients for
that. How many like employees is it take to run that not not a lot that's only
100 employees you need for some like that but
Yeah, the Consulting side is a blast and the reason why that's a lot of fun. It's because you know how the people who win the votes are the guys that are out there talking to people like for example talkers talking to people if Trump announced that Tucker is going to be the VP. Would you be surprised would you say why would he choose him? You'd say? No, I get it because he's shaking hands. He's going to Spain.
He's going to be pretty surprised. Why you think that's coming?
I think an alliance was built six months ago, and I said this on podcasts and
Video everybody was talking about it. I said I think when I made a hundred million dollar offer to Tucker and he turned it down and went to Twitter with Ilan. You know what he said to me. This is how I took it. I took it as elon's retweet is worth more than my hundred million, uh-huh, which it is by the way. Yeah. Okay, if you want told you right now every episode you put on Twitter. He's going to retweet your first episode there for 52 weeks.
Can I balls you're going to get there? It's going to be insane. So if you said I'll put it there first, then I can put it everywhere else. It's pretty powerful. So then I saw the alliance being built with him Ilan and Tucker. It was either Tucker's going to run in 20 28, but Tucker is going to help Trump for 2024 or Tucker's going to be the VP. But if that were to happen, it would be
Bonkers. I don't think stalkers going to be the VP.
I don't know if he's going to be the VP. All I'm saying is he is definitely got to be one of the candidates for Trump to consider as a
P he's got him he has to considered as a short list of five to ten names he has to you know, why here's why
I love Tucker, but he seems like he's like also super divisive
to while tell you why I think Tucker could play
I love them. But I'm just trying to think I'm not a win but
and I love let's have that. Let's have the band toured. That's great. So in your mind, you would think you know, he would need to go get like more like Mike Pence when Trump announced Pence's the VP. None of us knew who he was. You're like Michael, right?
Mike Pence who's Mike Pence? Oh, Indiana of had no clue. Okay, why would he choose him? Why because he needs to win the state and etcetera. It's okay great get it. But this time around for Trump to pick a VP. He's not picking it because he wants a Mike Pence. He's got to pick a VP that he knows can be replacing him for eight years to continue what he's doing. So you're not picking a VP for a low-key chill easygoing person. That's not going to be you're picking somebody that's going to replace you.
The words for eight years. So the strategy to pick an MVP is got to be different than it was in 2016. I think Tucker's formidable and Tucker has an alliance to be Lon and that alliance with Elon Elon. I don't know if he's fully yet on team Trump because he started off with the Santas and he's kind of like right now sitting around see what he's going to do. I think
Yolanda's - yeah, I got some person too personal like six bigger kind of beef.
That's right. That's right, which will never know who's
Looks bigger by the way, but what will happen is, you know Tucker could be the mediator to be like, hey guys America is bigger than this. Let's figure this thing out. It's either. What you going to do Ilan. You going to waste your vote and go vote for Biden or new some more Kamala or what? Are you going to vote for and none of these other guys are Fighters? Why do we make it work? I think that's the battle elon's going with but that could happen. And by the way everything I said, it's also very likely none of what I just said could happen pilot.
I
was very impressed because I can't see Tucker. That'd be very pretty Tucker would be the first president to pack is in and the Oval Office, right? Yeah Tucker will be what the pack is in. Oh, yeah. Got it. You know he loves you see that everywhere. We were at the fight last week and then Trump was there Tucker was there Kid Rock I saw them. They were all I saw was like the Republican
Avengers. Would you think about that? How was it? It was cool. We've had Tucker on the Pod to and
he's super cool just down-to-earth cool-ass guy.
Who did you have that didn't like him that
Her words like them like did you have anybody that's like mad guys? I don't like this guy and then afterwards I liked it. He was actually pretty cool
like our as I've our fans some more just from your crew. I don't think I don't think anyone dislike them before but after that it just showed how cool he is and like how much of a real guy he is, you know, our fans loved ya our fans our fans love us what I'm saying? What I'm saying is
for those that are on the edge the kind of like, I don't know man if you spend time with them you like them, right?
So, you know, that's the part where you're winning people over when you sit down with them. That's why I said Ilan Tucker and Trump. There's an alliance they're being built and it's a very strong Alliance that
allows you think could be potential vp's who else do I think could be potentially Trump wins the
nomination? Well, I mean, okay. So if you go strategically you have to go with States. Okay, so Arizona carry, you know if you want to go with like if you go with gnome Dakota,
He doesn't need to Kota right is he going to go but if he gets a gnome she's very attractive very well-spoken solid so could be good for the women vote. Okay, I think some of the stuff Haley is doing he can't pick a lie because she's too establishment war war war kill him take him out and Trump's not giving that kind of an answer. So I think Haley just lost a job. I don't think Vivek brings anything new as a VP that trumps not already doing as much as I like Levesque.
What's he going to bring to the table? He's there to aligned. He has to bring an audience that Trump doesn't already have that's why I think Tucker could bring an audience with Ilan that that could be a good alliance, but Tucker could also be a person that plays a advisor doesn't do them. That could also be role that he could play there's a lot of names being dropped. But all I'm thinking is he's got to pick somebody that's got to go eight because he's only got four when you're on your second term.
You're not you know what it's like it's kind of like this say you guys have happy that right now and you guys on it. All right, and then you have certain things that you want to do that. Maybe you're not yet fully doing okay because you have certain amount of money, but then you go and you raise 50 million bucks. You going to raise a hundred million dollars now, you're not worried about money. So now you can test the thing that you really wanted to test, but you couldn't test it with your own 18 million bucks you had in the bank hypothetically what I'm saying that
Second term you can play more aggressive than first term money, right? It's a second term so second term is okay because you'd be in jail. Nothing happened.
Hey because we'd get Mexico to build a wall. It didn't fully get done yet. Why do was he being to diplomatic even himself? You know Trump is so competitive. Sometimes that he also wants to convert people. He doesn't think he can convert into liking him and supporting him. He's that competitive show, but there's certain people you just not going to win over. I think this term it's going to be here's what we're doing day one bomb bomb bomb bomb boom. Boom.
Because guess what? I don't give a shit if I get reelected because I don't need to get real like this my second term. She your VP needs to be very important to take the rain after you if you get somebody that's too soft and can't be a president four years later. He has to think like a Reagan senior became the president four years later. Yes. We think of a like a Lincoln Ulysses S Grant became a two-term president and he was as VP. You have to think like a obama-biden became a president. You have to think like whoever is going to be after you instead of just
whew, but
again, you think Trump things like that or you just thanks, I gotta do whatever it takes to I
don't think he thinks like that. I don't think he thinks like that sometimes I think
about himself most the time
right? That's the the but it's not that he's usually thinking about himself. Look there's there's something
that you just misses that chair in the white house, right? That's up to
you know, what it is how selfish is good. Is it good to be selfish was a good to be selfless? That's the real question. Right? Like what is a person whose 100% selfless?
And 0% selfish look
like yeah,
what is actually think about it? I not very successful or having over. Well, what else do is that person a net positive to society? No, probably not do they smell good? Probably now. Why would they smell good because smelling good is a part of being selfish would they take care of their face or what they wear or how they present them? Probably not because they don't give a shit their selfless now go-to person at 100% selfish. What do they look like? You're going to use words like what narcissist their this there that what is 100?
Unselfish person look like there's plenty am today. They what they look like physically they're like little bit too much at a friend. He was so good-looking and handsome. What are we going to a nightclub? He would shave, you know, these guys who do their goatees Flawless perfectly, you know those guys like the line is like chiseled line. Yeah, his leg was a little bit off. He says, you know, I just ask that girl. She don't want to dance with my goat is off. That's why I said bro. You're the best-looking guy in a club. What are you talking about? He says no she could tell Michael I said, it's dark. Nobody could tell you.
Ortiz of but the 100% selfish guy just because he had a goatee in general the prophet. Yeah because you had to go to but the hundred percent selfish guys like dude, you don't want that person as a friend you don't want him as a spouse. You don't want him as a father. You don't want that person but it's still a bigger net positive to society than the 100% unselfish person because at least they're taking care of themselves, right? The right balance is 70/30 you can debate Trump is a T20 you can debate Trump is 92.
When the Right leader is a person that's typically 6570 selfish 30% selfless and I think Trump flirts would be in higher
than that it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. Do you prefer Trump wins or do you think the Santa's still even has a chance?
We had the scientist on the podcast couple weeks ago and it was an interesting conversation was the first time I some kind of getting comfortable and loose and talking but
You know, like I'll give you one perfect example. I asked the Santa's I showed him the clip about his boots because they say he wears high heels and I said how tall are you says 511? Okay, there's pictures online of his marriage with him and his wife and their the same height. She's 56 57. Maybe she's wearing heels. Maybe he's 58 kind there's pictures of him playing baseball. There's pictures of him when he was younger after 21 years old. How many more inches do you grow after 21?
And he wears these boots and it just doesn't look good. Right? So this hashtag for two days was trending called boot gate after we did the podcast and I asked him a question and I gave him a box of Ferragamo's his shoe sizes. I'd love to see you wear dress shoes and tennis shoes. And is that can accept a gift. You know why I was doing that. I was doing that for there to be a moment of levity and self-deprecation for the audience to be like, you know what I like and let me give me a chance to human like me.
Because when Trump went on Jimmy Fallon is to say Jimmy a trump. They say your hair is a toupee is it my hair is not a toupee. It's my hair. He says you sure can I touch it. He says well, I'm about to go to fundraising at Rhode Island. I just hope the people in Rhode Island of my hair's messed up is because of Jimmy he goes like this. You know what Jimmy that have you seen this and he messes with her Sarah pulls his hair. He says no, it's real. Guess what done the world watch it and said and we
He was an uptight, you know guy he let Jimmy play with his hair. What was that all about? These are moments where people kind of say, he's like me the Santa says challenges my opinion and I asked him I could be wrong you ever met people that grew up in an environment where they were walking on eggshells with a father or a mother that everyone. Yeah, dude and I kid grows up. Like hey, if you ever want to be a president you met her make sure you don't do this or send this text or send that email with this picture because God forbid one day.
Comes back to that kind of a life is a miserable life. I watched the Santa's. I want somebody who's walking on
eggshells. See you don't think he has that personal that person ability quality to be hasn't shown electable. Unfortunately, he hasn't shown right? Yeah. He hasn't really
hasn't shown it and you have to have it. Yeah Obama had it. And by the way, here's why though, okay. So on this podcast who's the main core pillar of this podcast you ride with us in every platform. There's
That's the dog. That's the leader and somebody that's the flag carrier. You have to ask yourself. Are you in the flag here your community or the alpha. So now there's levels to this. What does this mean Obama was the alpha Biden was the flag carrier Biden became a President Reagan was the alpha George Bush Senior was the flag carrier. He became a president Paul George the other day. I don't know if you know Paul George basketball players. Just want to sickest things the other day on his podcast he
Does podcast with a friend of mine son Dallas Dallas is a freaking talent. I love Dallas and he says you know what? I would took me 10 years to realize I can never win a championship as number one.
Can you imagine what the best players ever who's scored 50 points? God knows I'm averaging 28 points a game. You don't think you can win a championship as a number one. Do you know what level of maturity and wisdom it takes to say that who couldn't say it Westbrook and others couldn't say for the longest
time. That's not 30% South. Let's say that's the
part. So Durant even can't win as a number one.
Durant didn't when I was a number one out. Okay. See now that Nets not in the English way was number one. He was never no one at Golden State. He was freed by Steph Curry, but he's never won as a number one. Steph Curry is a number one, Draymond. Green is a flag here or not.
He was freed by that though because he got a lot of hate for
doing that well because he wanted to prove to the world that he was number one and he hasn't proven yet that he can win without a Steph Curry couldn't do with Kyrie. Everybody's put a team on him my point. I'm trying to make to use the Santa
Has to ask himself. Is he a flag here you're president. You can still be a president but Trump's an alpha so he could have easily been the guy to help trumpy a flag carrier and then he could rent 20:28. He would have gotten Maga but because of the way he took his position. Unfortunately, I don't think Maga majority of Mag is not going to forgive them and they're going to be here forever to come. I wonder
why he made that decision because that would have been such a formidable Duo Trump DeSantis 2024.
Oh and you think there's no chance that that still happens
while I asked them I said, when's the last time you called Trump? I don't need to call him I said would you be willing to go have a meeting with Trump at Mar-A-Lago? I'm not going to fly out to my get on a call can't say stuff like that. You're not the alpha. You can't talk to an alpha like that. He's the alpha you're not so, you know, like who's the alpha and UFC like as a guy that runs the show Dana Dane has an alpha by the way, is it even a question that he's an alpha? No, he's the guy
You don't tell well Dana better this we talking about you go build a company from 2 million and to a ten billion dollar company with all the bullshit every time you being criticized taking shot. He's the alpha. He'll take the arrows. He'll go after meeting. He'll do all of that. Right? So it's almost image short to think you're at that Alphas level and the only reason somebody does this in life. We've all fallen for this and it's so problematic when you fall for this spell, it's one of the worst spells you ever fall for so for example,
Somebody comes in to you you guys have a good relationship. Let's just say but somebody comes in to you and says, you know what man, he would have never made it without you. It's because of you forget about what everybody says you're the guy that stones and they flatter flatter flatter flatter and then all of a sudden you guys get into a fight. He doesn't know why you're fighting because somebody whispered in your ear that you're more important and him they made they made a division here. Why are they doing that? But it's been done for many times. It's not hard to do that happens all the time, but you got use for sure. You got to be you you've been around the block. You know, what?
Everywhere you've been around for you been getting views for a long time way before some of us got started.
You were getting into happens in our group to I know it happens. It's like if I'm out everyone's going to say. Oh Kyle, you're the funniest blah blah blah. If it's Steve, they're probably saying the same thing to him probably stinney like and then you start to hear all that shit and it's slowly creeps up on you and you're right. It can create these little
devotional question about raise theirs and by the happens in marriage happens
ration everything every new team. Yeah teams.
Yeah, but guess what though? Guess what?
Amongst the three of you. One of you has to be the leader. It can be a 33 33 33 one has to be the shot-caller. This doesn't mean you have to agree 100% Someone needs to be the shot-caller someone I believe.
Was in the sentences ears so much saying you're better you're better. You're better. You're better you're better so much feeding him that he fell for flattery thinking he's the alpha and I even asked him I said do you think you know without Trump's three tweets when you barely won the first time as a governor by 34 thousand votes. Do you think you would have won without the tweet in his book? He says it Trump help me win the governorship in the end of he says Nah,
What is still one can't say that you can't say that because it's not true. Like in your career your who's giving you your biggest break
maintain has definitely helped us a
lot. Imagine. If you say without Dana, you know, we're don't need a nurse up
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He talking about it's a little bit there's words for it that can be used and I think it's more than arrogant. It's ungrateful. It's unattractive, you know to to not want to give that so again, I don't know politics. I want them about politics is
this it's a little different though in that in that regard right where he just doesn't maybe doesn't want to look weak and he thinks oh, I actually can't compete with this
guy. Yeah, I get that that there's an element of that but diplomacy requires.
As you do,
how are you going to give you don't see that often in politics for people give others credit that they're competing against right?
What you do though? When Reagan won presidency the day he won he's given his inauguration speech and you know, ho many throws all the prisoners of War back to Iran and release back to us and releases mm Reagan and his speech says I want to thank President Carter for this because this is his doing and it's he gave credit to the that was around that element works because and why did Reagan do that because
Was he needs Carter? He's going to need Carter to call and say hey man. What do you think about this company were dealing with them, right? You know, like look what Kobe did Kobe did it the right way Colby everybody knew wanted to kill Michael but Kobe still had a relationship with Michael what he could call and have the conversations with them there needs to be that diplomacy and credit being given because it's attractive people like it what do parents want at the end of the day what do parents want from us? What do we want from our kids skimming?
Bit of credit. Yeah, you know what I my dad without this without that they want a little bit of credit, right? So they're looking for and if you do that, I think Trump would flip and come in. And by the way, I think Trump will forgive even if the center starts now, but I think the sentence has to take the first step now Trump
such a crazy thing. And then what do you think do you think that Biden is going to be the one to run or do you think that Newsome's going to step in? So here's the because it isn't he doing a one-on-one with de Santa soon? Yeah. He is he's doing it one of them centers and fox. Yeah, that's good.
Me crazy
that's going to be crazy. But again, you know, you know who wins there who wins DeSantis or Newsome who wins actually think about
that. I think knew someone I mean, I think you're saying new some but I don't
know. No, but I'm not asking the question of who wins the
debate right who gets the W-4 doing
just the fact that one got the other one to do it who won their a negotiation?
Yeah, probably Newsome for in the current state of things why I knew some do I mean he gets that exposure that he couldn't really get right, but
why does Newsome get the credit?
Instead of descent is actually think about it. You know what it's kind of like, what's your favorite sport? What sport do you guys like the most outside of UFC? What do you like the most NFL? Okay. Imagine you are the Eagles.
Okay, you're on the playoffs. All right, Arizona Cardinals convince you to play a game with them while the playoffs are going on on a Thursday night. What are you talking about? You're given eyeballs to who Arizona's not in the playoffs Newsome's not in the playoffs. What are you doing this for? That's a massive victory for Newsome. Not the Santa's the Santa's should have done that a year ago because a year ago, that was the time to do the debate because everybody was talking about California and
Florida is a phenomenal time to do it and he wasn't running yet. So if he would have done that then he would have beaten Newsome. Then he runs people like yeah, this is great. Now you're only going to lose there is no winning here because no
she's not in Canada's any already going to loot like he's technically going to lose the nominee right now too. So you could argue that he's this could be this could be a big moment for him to say. Listen. They're going to run new some I just destroyed him in a debate. Yeah kind of like he's on his last legs,
right? So so check this out you guys, how do
Judge, when a YouTube channel is dying one of these issues. Okay. So how many guys do you know? They're like, oh my God, look at that guy. Oh 100,000 Subs half a million Subs million Subs because you come to terms of you 300,000 300,000 300,000 views every to 600,000 600,000 some 1.2 million. Did you see 2.8 million Buddha and then all of a sudden sixty-two thousand views 32 thousand views seventeen thousand views 13,000 views eighteen thousand views nineteen thousand views.
You used to get a lot of eyeballs what happened? All of a sudden people have checked out. So the way you judge it is go look at the sentences last ten interviews and what he has to say go. Look at RFK is last ten interviews. Go look at vivex last ten interviews. Go. Look at Newsome's last ten interviews, you know, who's the lowest out of the for the scent is the lowest because he's repeating the same thing. So because he's replacing boring to watch too boring to watch. It's like Ali know what you're going to say. Yeah, how many of these motivational YouTubers were saying the same?
They said 10 years ago. They're centered in the audience has grown up and they're like look man. You don't want to talk politics. I like milk boys. I like what these guys are. They're willing to you guys. What's your main stream? Your brand is mainstream, right? But at the same time you don't give a shit. You'll have Tucker here. Yeah, ooh laughter, but the point I'm trying to make to use that shows what to your brand brass balls and a market looks innocent. I don't agree with this person. They're having on what would they have to agree with is what give you credit that you have breath?
There is certain people when you gauge those eyeballs.
You know, he's just not he's just not getting those eyeballs. Thanks, brother Sam. Thank you. So that's that's the that's the issue there. You know, you won in analytics nowadays. You guys are analytics Europe. I'm sure everything's analytics if you put all these guys that analytics and look at the last 100 clips and it shows the top 5 best Clips on each.
There's no not much interest on what the census has to say because it's been the same thing the last hundred
times anything new some steps in
or but they run by instruments unpredictable, you know, you know, we love to
follow half the run him but here's a problem item possibly win.
Here's the only thing if you can figure this thing out, I'm about to give you new some can run. You ready this the biggest problem Newson has and the Democratic party has for having Newsome run.
If Newsom runs as a president, that means Kamala has to sit
down if
Kamala has to sit down now Republicans as in have an easy car to say the group that talks about there for women and therefore, you know African-Americans and therefore this they just asked the VP who was the most formidable qualified candidate after the president to be the president. They asked her to sit down and they call themselves Democrats if Newsome ran as a president and they asked Kamala to sit down or go.
Way it is the easiest playbook for the right to keep playing that debates going to be nasty towards the Democratic party nasty. So that's the biggest problem. They're facing they have to find a cream by the way the creative enough you will there come with a way it could be something that she has to come out. So the way this works at the right way is, you know, we're having some personal challenges in my family with my kids and although I love my country and this is just I will give anything to it, but I have to choose my
A family is what Biden would say? No, that's what Kamala has to say. That's what Kamala and I know you're thinking Biden has Biden's gonna have health issues with biting. His wife's got to come out and say look, you know I sat down and I had to talk to my husband and you know as a wife and a doctor our priority right now. I feel like my husband's done enough for this country given 47 years of his life or whatever. The amount of years is it's time to be a grandfather and as much as he wants to do it, we had a family meeting and we told him no honey. You can't run anymore wilf will fall for that block will be like, oh wow.
What a know we
all see it to actually is what should
happen exactly. But now go find a way to spin it with Kamala. How do you spin it spin that one? That's a tough spin bike and spin is easy. Yeah, Kamala spin. Yeah, its scientific. I mean you got to be like and by the way, there's smoke there are creative enough and deceptive enough to figure out a way, but that's what they're probably working on right now because they know it's catastrophic five out of Six States.
That are the ones that are going to determine who's going to be president on all poles. Pretty much is shown Trump ahead of biting. Yeah, five out of those six state. So the dams are not going to sit there and take it they got to do something but I guarantee you in their in their strategy meetings. They're figuring out a way to get Commander to come out and step away and I don't think she's gonna do it
such a crazy time right now to with everything going on in the world. I feel like this this is could be the last kind of chance for America. It seems like it's just seems like
Slowly falling apart ever feel like that
I do but also at the same time, you know, here's what's going on, which is which is wow. So
five years
ago. What are you guys doing podcasts know? When did you start doing podcasting and Claire your two years ago? Okay, and how rapidly has the podcast
climb a climb quick? Because we already had our mother Channel, which was the Lifestyle Channel that we use to push the podcast so pretty
quick and
The recognizable brand we recognize that we know you write cos we've seen you so many times five years ago. Did you think you would have political people on your
podcast? Definitely? Not not people that we've had yet.
So but what flipped because it's a decision you made what caused you to make that decision?
I think we've always liked had those views and stuff, but honestly just the opportunity God pretty
much what was there ever a conversation about the risk of doing so was there ever like in
yeah, I think the first time the first time limit ranked with Trump though it
Definitely like a little bit of
backlash. They took it out 24 hours later all of that. Oh,
yeah. Well the first time we met him was we went on Air Force One with Dana. So that was the time right before the election that was the time. So we got a bit of backlash, but we just didn't really care like we just kind of feel the way we feel and go. Yeah Bingo. Yeah, that's the
part should show the people who have the Voice who were worried about saying anything or taking positions no longer.
Give a shit and now they're being vocal. That's a problem for the other side because now we're finding each other and the people who are like us, you know, what our way is the DNA of people who are waking up and finding each other. We're typically a community of people that lift each other up. How you doing? You guys got this going to awesome. How can I support let's collaborate. Let's do this. Let's say we're doers will go make the money. We're doing our part.
But you know for the most longest time the saying is what never talk politics never talk religion never talk this and that's been fed over and over and over again. You never do that with your YouTube channel or podcast. Trust me. You going to lose half the audience at other?
But no, I think I think the reason why I have a lot of Hope for the future of America's because the right people are finding each other and they're they're United and they're setting aside Ambitions and they're saying nah, man. Listen you for freedom. And for Freedom, let's roll. Let's go good. Good. Let's roll. That's what's happening Freedom Fighters finding each other Freedom Fighters for the longest time. If there's not a reason to fight for Freedom. Guess what we do we go have our babies we go have our own ambitious we go buy our farm we go by or
There was four years even before we go do our thing. But if God forbid you screw around with that then all of a sudden you ever seen the movie Troy where you know, where he's what hooking up with a girl in the tent and they come out and say hey Achilles such-and-such happen. He looks at the girl and gets up and goes does the fight kills him?
Thousands of Achilles have been woken up the last 67 years and these are guys that are doing their thing and you don't even know who they are. They're just kind of minding their own business. So my confidence comes from the fact that you don't wake up True Believers and they have there are bullies that seem like they're the toughest people out there in the marketplace that intimidate people but they're not the toughest people are the people that are not afraid of facing bullies and the people that are not afraid of facing bullies.
Are now waking up coming to get us and you're not going to do this to America. You just not going to do it. And by the way, 20 24 I call 2023 in November of last year the Year of Investigations. I said everyone's getting best to get it. This is going to be shittier and investigations 2024. I'll call in the year of chaos. This can be the most chaotic year of our lifetime super chaotic. Are you seeing what's going on DS yesterday that the
cops and all that stuff and you know what the senator? Oh, it was almost a fight in the Senate here. Yeah.
I can't even believe that was
real the protesting the riots outside about Palestine. Did you guys see that what happened yesterday at the DNC headquarters? Okay. So israel-palestine Hamas Biden can't lower the temperature with
that. Yeah, he does that is that not crazy to you if that's happening and this country like harder than it is anywhere else. I think it's happening everywhere. It's hot but I'm a mirror you see it. Maybe it's just because of what I see on like my phone around socials, but it's no those are going on everywhere on the where do I get that but
a pretty powerful here, which is
a little bizarre. So maybe what you're saying is, you know, if they are going everywhere but America Silverman this bad and it's so why though why we were you raised with a strong father or was he pretty chill pretty strong pretty strong. I was your pops in the middle in the middle. Yeah. Could you get away with shit
or not? What do you find it? What the fuck? That's when he would
be so fucking kill me. But what happened when he when our father was away. What do we feel like we could do anything so my parents got a divorce twice right when they got a divorce when I was 10 years old.
The last time they were together my mom one day were in the living room. She hits me because I came late or something. I don't know hand hurts fortunes are Mom. What are you doing?
But in that moment, my mom could no longer tell me what to do.
I come home at 11:00 12:00 at night. What are you going to tell me? You can't tell me anything because it wasn't somebody I feared right just like a boy needs love fear and respect. They need somebody to love somebody to fear somebody to respect. Typically Love Comes mom fear and respect comes with that and if you can love you feel love from that even better, right but we need somebody to fear and respect. Okay as much as we need somebody to fear and respect in order for a company.
A country a city mayor Governor State president country that leader needs to impose fear and respect and to everybody. Yeah, which of those two does Biden impose fear or respect either exactly. So guess what happens when you can impose fear and respect bullies wake up tyrants wake up and they're able to take advantage of you. Nobody fears or respect America today. Nobody even likes us today. Yeah, by the way like abilities.
The last one if you can get a president like Reagan was a trifecta Reagan was all three they like them they feared them and they respected him you wanted to have dinner with them. We don't want to cross them. We respected him as a man as well. It's got somebody right? We don't have any of those three today. Okay in some ways it would Trump you didn't have like ability with Trump, but you had fear and respect say what you want. You better fear and respect the guy, you know. Hey you going to do something qasem soleimani bomb the guy that
was a leader of six proxy military's he called himself the most powerful General in the Middle East he kills him and then it's like do something and here on retaliates and bombs a building in a military base that they knew was empty just to say we retaliate it. No, he didn't why not because you know, the guys crazy enough to do something to even touch him. We need to hurry up with this next election. I get somebody that's feared and respected or else it shows going to get even worse. I think 2024 is going to be
Really the year where America needs to go back to being feared and respected. That's why it's a very important election. So it's going to
be a very time around the world. I mean you got the Ukraine Russia war and now with the tension now in the israel-palestine thing is just taken it seems like there's different sides forming in different regions of war going on now right yet there's multiple. I think there's a design that I've noticed that people are actually starting to change their political opinion. Like I've noticed a lot more people are starting to go more right just because this
It's getting so out of hand that I've never seen anything like that. I like as I've grown up. I think even the companies are learning where the money's at to I mean you saw the whole Bud Light thing too. Right? I think the companies are now seeing like, oh, you know what we can't go this left or we're going to start losing money. I think the Bud Light thing was the first example that and now even YouTube we used to deal with more censorship on YouTube three years ago than we do now. I mean, you couldn't even make a trans joke three years ago. You would get no, you're right. I knew because I know we've been doing the show.
Shit. Yeah, you could not do anything trans-related. Nothing. You can't even touch a talk about it now like you can pretty much do whatever you want. So I even know YouTube is actually becoming more lenient because they're seeing what happened with X and stuff and they're saying you know what we can't we can't go this far left or we're going to lose
money. So you said something very important dodo. Why did that happen though? YouTube came up with a email to user saying hey, we typically would have taken down questions about the
Integrity but moving forward we're leaving those videos
up. That's what that's why we got our first Trump interview
deleted because yeah, it
was only because of his of election fraud so and now they reverse that you're allowed to question the election
so think about that so you may have been one of the reasons why they did that because that interview goes over the wire taking it down. You know, I'm taking it down six million views and whatever hours you guys got in all this stuff. Like why are you taking that part down? But you know, this is what prevails though Common Sense eventually prevail.
Tails and bad ideas get exposed 100% the other day the scanning Professor Scott Galloway. I don't know if you know who he is or not. He's like a he's like a god in NYU Professor liberal side. He had a CNN plus gave a million bucks to do show obviously CN n plus went out of business, but he's on Bill Maher.
And is there well Andrew Cuomo and Scott is saying well look Yes, we made a mistake with the vaccine and the shutdown's but this is the time for people to show Grace and we need Grace and Anna Grace. He kept using the word Grace. I'm sorry. What was your grace when people disagreed with you? Where was your grace when Elon Musk was by
Percent of twittering says he's lying. He's full of shit. He's got all of you guys fooled. He doesn't want to buy it. He just playing games with all of you guys ulong makes an offer to buy the entire company watch him bail out. He's not gonna bite watch he's going to use this as an excuse to not buy. He doesn't have the balls to buy. What is it onto? He buys it after he buys it what is Galloway do keep thrashing them over and over and over and over again. Where was your grace guy? So there is there's an element where their ideas got exposed.
To say stay home the same guys that were for shutting down and having everybody stay home with their kids as the same attorney Surgeon General that comes out and says there's this thing called a loneliness epidemic. You're the reason why there's a loneliness epidemic. You're the reason why kids were staying home. You're the reason why people couldn't go see people in States like California and New York. You're the reason why this happened and now they're getting exposed. So then what happens after somebody's getting exposed its accountability. The accountability part has to happen if the accountability part doesn't happen, you know in China the first
That to figure out for capitalism to work what can capitalism not work without what do you need for capitalism to work? You need what think about it people say, well you need money. Well, you need this forget about the money and the ideas and the entrepreneur and all that stuff. What do you need for capitalism for you to feel protected that if you go build a business somebody can bully and takes it away from you. What do you need? You need laws. So 40 years ago China had some for law schools. Nobody followed the laws.
A corrupt country cannot have capitalism because somebody can come in and say give me your business moving forward. This is my get out of here. Give me 20% everyone because there's no laws, right? Okay. The reason why our system has worked is because we have laws. However, if nobody's held accountable for all the shit, they did during covid people are not going to trust the system. So there needs to be an element of accountability taking place while we're going through this next phase but it's going to be interesting. I think you'll on did a very good thing buying it.
Her ex if you wouldn't have done that it would have been a very different climate all the people that are very confident posting stuff on Twitter. You wouldn't be able to do that year and a half ago. There's no way now they can't so Elon was the first Tipping Point. I think what Chris is doing with Rumble is very important. They're playing a very important role because there's competition and at the same time the the country and the world is starting to realize you guys had some shitty ideas and now even from people from the left or stone to say, maybe there was voter fraud. Maybe you guys had some
Stuff like this. Maybe you did the questioning it questioning it two years ago. God forbid you questioned it now. So hypocrisies being exposed their needs to come up with some level of accountability fauci has been very quiet after being considered those Sexiest Man Alive by guardian and you know, he needs to be held accountable for what he did to make sure the next time we're going to have another epidemic and pandemic guys. It's going to happen in our lifetime. It happened whether your age starts with a five or six or seven when it happens. It's going to happen. We do not want the same behavior to happen. So there needs to be accountability for that.
Proof, but yeah social is very different the fact that we can talk right now and this can get distributed to millions of people in here these ideas and then they go home and talk to their mom and dad and cousins and friends
about easier. That's what's awesome about it.
Because if we didn't have this we'd be getting bullied by mainstream media on a daily basis another
kind of uncensored platform daily wire. Do you see the beef between Shapiro and Owens what's going on there?
Yeah. He called her disgraceful and I guess I can.
Disowns is
being like a little anti-israel and obviously Ben Shapiro has been on a tear like going to universities right now just having open debates with people so they actually got into it on Twitter. I didn't see that. Yeah, and they both work for the daily wire Ben Shapiro said Shapiro technically her boss. I mean, he's a I think he's an owner of the company but like I don't know if he's our boss. But yeah, he basically said she made like a cryptic tweet that was like kind of going at him saying you can't serve money and God at the same time.
And then he replied and said like if you think that you're serving money here like you can quit so it's
like Civil War a daily wire. It's the best way to put it
to like heavyweights going at it
though. Let me ask you who is whose whose fault is that like there has to be the first ship that falls. What's the first Domino?
Probably Candace like back in Kanye a little bit probably.
Okay. So when you bring somebody like Candace to your platform has she shown a platform has she shown a track record?
Of agreeing 100% with everybody definitely not so why are you surprised? Yeah, you shouldn't be surprised right when you bring somebody like that and like if you if you bring Draymond Green to your team, is he all of a sudden going to be? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I'm not gonna you know Chokehold Rudy gobert for freaking 10 seconds and get a five-game fine and get suspended. Yeah, you're gonna expect something like that to happen. You know, Dennis Rodman can go from anything to any team. He's bringing his
Reputation with them whatever that reputation is. Katniss's bring a reputation to daily wire.
I think they got to keep it private when you going through stuff like that and it's not a good look for the brand. I'm sure they'll figure it out because I think inside they have enough people that are reasonable people that can make them sit down and have a conversation with each other knows and you know Walsh and share me and Peterson. They can have a meeting. They need to have an emergency meeting to bring everybody to get up school with Jeremy shooting a movie right now thinking Holland or wherever he's at. They got it do any emergencies in which if they haven't already done it she was on Tucker yesterday.
I don't know. If you saw that it came out. It came out already. Okay, Tucker's first question was what happened with you and Ben he called you disgrace your boss. He asked her the question yesterday and it was the first interview. She did after the backlash and you she's sitting there pregnant doing the interview with Tucker.
So yeah, I think and what was her response that
we should the well listen, he's not the boss. The boss is somebody else that I actually get along with and it's not even Jeremy right now because Jeremy shooting a movie. I don't know if she said that or not but the fact that Jeremy is not the boss.
But he is one of the owners and he's one of the OG founders of the brand and I don't work for Bain and we can't have this disagreements and ideas. We always had and she said in the last five years anything I've ever said Ben has pretty much been on the opposite side vaccine. He was Pro she was against all this stuff. So she's kind of talking about that. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know if a long term which
is fine. They're allowed to disagree because nothing is just that's just interesting because yeah, I guess you don't like when Republicans quote unquote disagree, but it's there.
Allowed to disagree. Yeah, but there's one thing
here there. So what is the one thing that Ben is saying? I'm not compromising.
Oh, he's not compromising on Israel exact. No way.
That's the only thing yeah. He's okay with everything. Yeah, but Ben is like now and by the way a part of it.
A part of it you have to respect been that at least he has that core of a belief about Israel, which means he's 100% true because this is he's hurting his business. This is not a good business move for you do some like this right a part of it is this is where I stand but it's not a good business move what he's doing. It's a good move with Israel and the Jewish Community because they're not sitting there saying wow. Okay, so we know where you stand with this, but it's not good for the brand to
That kind of division because then it means I can't come to your brand and have it opposing idea because if I do and say this, you know, this is the part that I'm going to get in trouble. So what if I want to call out?
A position with Netanyahu. I can't be party organization and that may very well be the case because it could happen to many different media companies. But yeah, it was not pretty day yesterday for daily. Why are these guys going back and forth it's
crazy. That might be the most divisive thing to like talk about even like more than like left and right times like a thousand
like why do you think that is? Why do you think that that gives so now I'm just not it's I'm not
that people are dying.
Children are dying. So I think that and it's been there's been so much animosity between both sides for so long. It's been going on for thousands of years. This is but yeah, but this is the first time it's been everybody has seen it all over social media like not everyone is have this exposure to it from my knowledge.
Would you agree there? You're
right and some videos are resurfacing from 20 30 years ago of comments that were made and people getting educated and it's uncomfortable. You know, it's interesting. I was talking to the when we first started a podcast was talking about the Shah son Crown Prince and his father on October 24th of 1976 is interviewing with Mike Wallace from 60 minutes. So think about the date,
October 24th, 1976. Okay. He's interviewing with Mike Wallace and in the interview guess who calls out the entire Jewish community?
So he says what are you saying? He says well to be honest with you. The Jewish Community has way too much power. This is what are you saying? Your majesty? He says Finance banking Media newspapers. He says like who New York Times Yes, Washington Post. Yes, the media less this and any stops is I don't want to go anymore. I want to pause right there. He called out how much power they have what happened to him two years later. He was
checked out
So there is a lot of power that the Jewish Community has and that's clear. By the way this whole thing that the other side uses. They use the word cleansing right? Look what Israel is doing their cleansing.
The the Muslim population has doubled in the last you whatever 15 years 20 years the couple billion people worldwide. You know, how many juicers worldwide 15 million? Yeah, 15 million. So if you kill a thousand Jews, that's the comparable of killing, you know, let's do the math 15 million hundred. That's the equivalent of killing seven.
You see how I did the math when I'm gone, 15 million to two billion. Yeah, of course any life is someone's kid is too many but and then musk said something very powerful on Rogan when he said every Palestinian child you kill.
You're you're increasing one member of the Hamas population. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, and what a great point because that level of animosity kids going to grow up see conventions for the rest of his life rest of his life. He's not gonna you know, forget about that. Look at RFK. He has his dad's name. What happened to his dad is that got assassinated?
Robert Kennedy, jr. Robert Kennedy gets assassinated. He goes 14 years addicted to drugs K. His uncle gets assassinated John F Kennedy. Is that supposed to be the president?
And now he's running at 70 years old where he's at today. You don't think that's been something on his mind for all these years. You don't think he's seeking his own kind of a return to come back and prove a point, you know, and and and find out what they did to his family try to destroy in tarnish to Kennedy last them in the family. That's a example in America. Imagine what they're going to do to all these Hamas and Palestinians and them so
You know, unfortunately, you know Netanyahu may want to cement his legacy as look what I did. I'm the one that went and got rid of them. And this two-step great. What would you did do or could possibly do is continue many wars that are happened after you're no longer the Prime Minister the president. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. So in this again, and I know this kind of sounds weird, do you know what happened when the Shah was running gear on back in the 70s. There was no war in the Middle East. Everybody was making it work.
Because there was relationship it was peace. There's a business model as well for chaotic Middle East the more chaotic Middle East is the more they can be controlled and a more money. You can make four different Industries, you know weapons of mass destruction all this other stuff, you know, the military-industrial complex. So, you know, the people of power behind closed doors. There's some that are sitting there saying, oh, we got a Word the mark is about to go up and look what happened to the market.
Couple weeks. It's up. What happened yesterday up 550. Yeah, so it's actually a very strange business model. That's
so what do you think's like the solution then how do you think this will all end or it's gonna go on for years?
Well, the challenge isn't the wars ever going to end. No, no. No that's never going to end because they have differences. I mean, you look not to have fun with this or you know, turn into a joke. Have you seen Adam Sandler's movie where he's the hair dress, you know the Zohan Zohan
Right and he he falls in love with a Palestinian girl and his Jewish. I don't know if you've seen the movie or not the other day my kids wanted to watch it because they're going through all of Adam Sandler's movies. They love Adam sent. My wife's favorite comedian is him and we watch it was like Wow everything about that movie is today and Ali G. You guys know Sacha Baron Cohen did the freaking the guy writes my guy. So when he would do, you know, what's the one he says so why is it that people you target are the euthanasia is you know,
Shh is so what worries are the euthanasia so no, it's something you do. It's called euthanasia. Anyways, he has these two leaders from Israel and Palestine and he's talking to us when he was Bruno, right? That's when he was Bruno. He says so so why is it that you know, you guys is the number one reason why you guys have a problem with Hamas because the pita bread gets in the way and he says no you're confusing the difference between hummus and Hamas. He says, so what?
Is the difference it says we both like hummus and then Bruno says so at least you guys agree on something you bought like, you know, so someone's got to come in to try to figure out a way to you know, bring them together Trump was going in that direction when they moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Israel Abraham's a quarter with some progress being made, but at least there wasn't somebody capitalizing off of
it Bruno might have made the most progress
so far. All right. Hey,
I mean
That is hilarious. By the way.
I don't know. I don't know you guys have friends that it can keep a straight face for a long time. Like, you know, you did want one of my favorites kiss that you did is freaking funny as hell. What did you do? You went to the house? And he said why do you have biting? Why do you have Trump stuff here? I'm offended. Which one was it that you get in the trunk putting put into Biden signs on him your face. You kept it. Right? Some people have that gift that they can keep it. I have a guy my one of my guys Mario right hand as he can.
This one time we're going on a flight and it's one of those flights where you go down and if your left is going to Bakersfield if you go right it's going Phoenix, but you're not going straight into the term. You're going on the tarmac you're walking, right? So we get on the plane and I said Mary, let's play a prank on this lady sitting next to us with two kids. So our flight is going to Arizona, but the other one's going to Bakersfield they close the door. We're about to take off I said, so what time's our meeting today in, Arizona?
I'm sorry, like it. The other one's going to Baker's for she's out. She's on a flight thinking is going to Arizona, but that was going to Bakersfield. So what time's your meeting tonight at Bakersfield? She's looking at us we do you mean, excuse me? We're talking we have a meeting to Baker's. Well do is a schedule 6:00. Where is this flight going Bakersfield want to bake? So and Mario keeps us a starts talking to for like two minutes. She's like this is going to Baker's I can't get on this flight. I couldn't drown to go to Arizona. She calls the flight attendant comes in man.
Got to stop the plane. I can't go to Bakersfield. I have a wedding to go out of this place to go to but Mario stays like this, right and he kept a straight face and then eventually Mario ladies like they're playing with you. She gets all upset. I can't hold my fist God. I got to look this way around part of this community Sacha Baron Cohen, bro. Yeah. What the hell is that all about? It's even Will Ferrell. You see? No one would will Fairway says the plums, right? It says let the boy watch it was seen that one went.
I don't even think Will Ferrell is at Sasha's
level. No Sasha's the go. He is news allergy. He was in the people that he's been able to get in the same room with as when he's trolling them. Like he's the OG troll. Yeah, it's
insane you guys done anything with them or
no? No, that'd be that'd be insane
crazy. I think you guys got a that would be hilarious. We should try you should yeah that that would be funny as hell.
I want to ask you this is kind of off topic but you always talk about like I saw Clips on take talk today about how if your kid wants a video game you make him read 10 books to get the
No game. This is like a true thing. You raise your kids a certain type of way. Do you think that that's not happening enough like that same you got to study you got to go in school. You got to
focus. Here's a problem with standards. This is prom with standards this sooner the later you said standards the less people going to follow it.
The sooner you're set standards and you keep it the more it's normal, you know, my son is weak is insane starts early. It ends late. He's swimming for an hour. Then he goes to soccer then he goes to Jujitsu then he goes to baseball batting cages and he's working on that as a schedule every day right
for sports and one day. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you got a meaty. Mushroom. Are you trying to like, well, it's not about his too
much for him. It's normal for him. By the way. We're very capable human being sometimes we underestimate.
How capable kids are one day I'm in Panama and I see a four-year-old kid would a two-year-old if that pushing the kid in the cart shopping cart by himself and I'm looking around looking for parents. Nobody's around what the hell is this? Four-year-old doing taking care of a two-year-old baby Natural Instincts. We got from very early on but if we don't use them you don't put him to work. It's a waste of a talent than a god-given. So so to us, we think too little of our
our kids we see them as two soft. We don't see them as capable. We're like, okay poor kid poured this this is not a poor kid. Stop calling your kids a poor kid. He's not poor he's okay. So you set the tone and standards and villain comes and says Dad my friends. I tell him my day looks like do all kids have schedules like this. I said every kid has a schedule like this. So I'm telling you I'm talking to my friends their schedules not mine. I said, that's the schedule to by David family. That's what you're going to be doing. Okay, so now
night
What is he doing at 9:30 for an hour straight? He's got weights on his feet. I'm not telling them knocks it down. It's a calling. It's gone like the dot dot dot dot dot and he's running around soccer. Don't around SOG doing in the backyard on his own in the in the in the club room that we have in our theater room the Dylan sit down. No. No, I got to be ready. I got to be ready Dylan grab a seat. You're sweating got to go shower again know that if we're going to win we're going to win. I'm like now it's like it's his why ring okay on what he wants to do, but no with with us, you know, I grew up in an environment.
I never was expect to do to do anything. First time I've ever read a book. I was 21 years old cover to cover why do standards and then I get checked by my first sergeant in the Army Drill Sergeant Green who expects tanks expect standards like this from me and in all of a sudden I'm pissed as an 18 year old, you know kid and I'm like and then Palm he sets me straight and these three are the tough guys and
also were like this and I start doing stuff. I didn't think I was capable of doing going on four hours of sleep for six months straight. I'm like, so the body's capable of this damn. No wonder some countries are able to get better soldiers and our soldiers in America were worried about us spending tens of millions of dollars on them transitioning.
And you think the enemy is going to be like, oh, there's a transgender there guys. We can't kill them. God forbid because it's not proper thing to do. You think the enemy thinks like that know the problem with America today which were going to paper if you want to know really what price we are going to pay for is our low standards with our kids. Yeah, super low standards military low standards schools low standards parents low standards and just like Dana said, he said he told one of his kids. He says look in any time like this.
That's something right now. Yeah.
Next generation is a bunch of yeah,
but but he said if you are at all a killer you're gonna freakin win out of high level Rider gonna freakin dominate The Marketplace and he's right. It's the ultimate season for people to have higher standards. You yourself are going to be surprised at what levels you're going to win because we're in a very very low standard economy today very
why do you think people would seems like people just don't have faith in themselves. They don't think they know they can accomplish certain things. Like I think the parenting is a big thing to in the parents are the laser from
Society from media to kind of be a bit softer and stuff right? I think as opposed to other countries see what they do in China with like the AI checks in the students. So it's like they're like breeding like a Next Generation.
So imagine you are you looking at your enemy doing that? What do you think about any you look at your kids in America? You like that? Ah, yeah, I think in 20 years were in trouble. That's what we are. Okay. No, you can't do that. No, you can't do that. No, you can't talk because like that. What are you talking about? Like, you know in the military one?
Things about the military if you couldn't mentally take it you forget about physical what they did to you mentally is what the game was. Hey, you know what happened last night? What happened last? I draw what's your girlfriend's name Mary? What's your best friend's name Joey, you know they were together last night and she was screaming his name you watch guys break down crying and get out of the army.
Are they fucking with them or they're being here constantly fucking with or messing around. Of course.
Damn, Austin, just what test their mental
just to see if you can stay just to see if you can stay by the way go on the NBA and you you asked about guys like Larry Bird or Michael or something Peyton how these guys talk smack some guys can take it, right? Yeah. So now will Pat what do you say are you supporting bullying and I'm not telling you that well telling you a little bit of being pushed around and getting your ass kicked is good for you you need that. We don't have any of it right now, but God forbid you do.
God forbid you challenged some kid. God forbid you expect them to do something. No. So yeah. And by the way, here's the thing people will be critical in those a butt pad. I think you mean to toughen this and this and that come see how my kids are with me. Come see where they wanted to be yesterday, Florida yesterday. We had a little bit of a weather challenge here. So the school was obvious that it because of flooding, right?
Yes for my kids wanted to be us today at the office with me. So what do they like about being at the office? Why do they want to be at the office all day that miserable or do they like it what you'll end up realizing it. They want the standards. They want the high expectation. It's a form of showing love to somebody when a parent doesn't give a shit what you're doing the kid interprets as a maybe he doesn't love me. Maybe he doesn't, you know, then I'm going to go do whatever I want if somebody's like boom boom boom boom boom and is able to show love.
Guy cares about me damage that is expecting this standard for me. It's pretty powerful. You know, we need that everybody needs.
And should want a person of high standards in their life everybody. It's such a beneficial.
X Factor to those that went out of
high-level. Yeah, you seem like a dope dad.
You had a lot of fun but your kid. Yeah until your kid comes home with like a d on his report
card. He did like it has a ton of that look like it's very easy. It's actually very easy conversation waits for two weeks straight.
Any reason why your kids come to school with ankle weights now, it's actually not like that. So one of my kids had enough last year and had enough this year. Very simple you get no iPad if you have anything below be on your report card, it's not an argument. It's not a fight and I don't have no problem. Just you know, give you don't get iPad. You don't get to pick movies nothing but that I want to play iPad. Totally get it bro. Don't worry one time. My oldest son thought of this standard was going to go away.
And he's the guy that likes video games the most guess what happened three and a half months. And this was October November December mid-January. He didn't play single iPad or video game. That's Halloween Thanksgiving and Christmas. Wow. Can you imagine everybody Christmas were all together in Aspen? Everybody's together Thanksgiving wherever we are. Yeah, and you're the only one that's not playing video games an iPad anybody asks how coming up playing video games and up because I got to see I got to do no
problem. Has it improved since then, of course,
it's improved.
Yeah, he's got A's and B's now. He's yeah, of course, you know, if you wanted you'll improve and if you don't want to guess what I'll say to him, I guess you don't like video games how much I thought you liked video games. I do like video games. Well, dude, you've had a sea for two months now. So if you really like video games, you would improve totally fine my style of leading. It's your choice. I set the standard then it's up to you to choose whatever you want to do, but this is my standard.
I don't want to read books. You don't have to read any books. We also don't get to get XYZ the standards matches incentives. If you if you if you find those two together is by the way the same goes with America. Look how many single single mothers we have having kids today in 1940 was 4% in 1940 96 percent of kids that were born that a mom and a dad married. Think about that stat in 1940 96% of any kid that was born was
Or to a mom and a dad married. Wow,
96 96 percent. I don't know. I know what is it that only 4% in 1940. You know what it is now 40 percent are born to a single mom today
40% and went from four to forty percent. This is Stan from the government. I'm not giving you anything. That's
that can't be factual
actually verified right now. I'm going to text it to you right now. Okay, it's crazy when you see this 4 percent to 40 percent. Okay. So now once I showed
What you see the numbers are right from the government. Here's a question. What's the next question you and I want to ask when you hear a number like that. Why why? Okay, so what caused it? Okay. So do you know was the first time to welfare system started what we started giving money out to people like what year Social Security started under which president you guys know FDR? Okay, so he started kind of doing the Social Security and all this other stuff that's going on.
So, okay. This is how we're going to get rid of poverty in America.
Cool incentives to single mothers send the money. They need help no prom 1965 LBJ Lyndon Johnson increases the welfare benefits to whole different level incentivizing mothers who have kids. We're going to give them money. Okay, when you see 1965 on a number of percentage of single mothers, then all of a sudden it goes like this.
And he climbs all the way up to forty percent. So 1965 the creating incentives for single mothers have more kids. So imagine every time you have any kid 500 bucks 500 bucks. You got nine kids 4,500 bucks the government's paying you and then if you do get married to incentives go away. So why would you get married? So you find somewhere like I want to get married cause I'm not getting married to you why I'm going to lose these benefits from the government that's been sent to me on Amazon you check
that to welfare. The the number change incentives incentives.
Vietnam irritate what we do when your incentives change bad behavior good behavior shows up if you incentivize let's just say we
feel like people are just being a little more. Yeah actually free. Do you think that means more there is no people right people have
way more sex back then and today you think people ever more sex today.
There's no I think
that's proves people were having more sex back than today
hippies, but with like random people like one night stands like girls. Oh sex
stats show. We are having the fuse.
Sex we've ever
had. I don't know. What do nothing. You're looking at their well, definitely not you guys. I'm
not talking about you. But but do you know the level of the percentage for men under the age of 30 as virgins is the highest it's ever been no way
bro. No, do you know that's that that
percent. Yeah. I'll give again another one. I'll show you a few things that we this is
what percent of 30 year olds are virgins. That's the style were looking
up. I will give you both of them right now. Okay, I'm gonna call Sam. Yeah you guys by the way your I'm sure your audience doesn't struggle with this.
Why do you think that's so
high virgins at because it is they're having sex with the phone. Yeah, but why would I need to be worried about having sex with their best porn today? You got access to so many different porn only fans. There's so many things I can do today.
What's the craziest stat? You have see someone that was pretty interesting to do you have any like just crazy percent of something. I mean, those are easy.
I mean those alone are there's a lot of them the more you you get into it with numbers and stats at depends on what topic.
Want to get into topics vary but you're talking with kids, you know low standards today incentives determine what we do and our behaviors. Alright. So here we go. Brandon sent one the charge that's from the US Census Bureau 4% to now 40% That's fucking insane. That's insane. That's the that's the senses girl giving you that style
bearing. Oh so unwed
Get
on with it. So you're a single mother. You're not married. You're having these kids.
So people are also getting married less
people also getting married
last that how what how how does the marriage rate the lowest Cuban
people are not getting any look men are afraid of getting married for different reason, right? So, why are men not on until you married? I've been married now 14 June 26th became 14 years. Wow. So we take it one year at a time by the way. Yeah. So one thing about marriage,
what do you what would you recommend?
H2 us stinney texted me this morning and said hey bro, I think we gotta get girlfriends. Well just randomly. I did say that that's actually
true but I'll but I'll tell you this bro. What do you guys want to do meaning? Do you guys do you want a family do you want kids? Are you still in the phase of you're running you're having a good time? How old are
you 29? How would you say Mitch? Okay, I mean listen when you get married I would have come
earlier Authority is when I got married, but but I had I had a lot of fun in our me is it's May.
Ahem, you know people think in our me you we we just work hard man. I am put the uniform on go on and see what happens just a very weird dynamic, you know when you're in the Army in different places, so we had a lot of fun and I used to go to Vegas every other weekend and when I was living in La so we had our fun. But if you're not done don't do it yet. Yeah if you're not done, but I will tell you man. There's a lot of different heights in life. There's a high when you have money in the bank. There's a high when you buy your dream house. There's a high
When you are being recognized there's a high when you get love from your family. There's you know, High there's all these different eyes. There's nothing like a high with kids man that I would kids as a complete different story complete different story the high with kids so I highly recommend it and I don't recommend it having it without a steady husband and wife father and mother being in the house together, but I would highly recommend getting
married. If I were to say, I wouldn't recommend it without getting a
prenup.
I feel like there's there's no way I'm doing it without a prenup anybody who tells you don't do it we get married without a prenup is a
fool. It's is that like kind of like a that's a tough negotiation
know
obviously the wife says like what do you mean you think we're going to get divorced? I wanted someone told me that someone said you asked him if you love me for me, or do you love me for my money?
No problem. Go ahead and let's what we want to role play. You want to role play all these objections. We can do that. Go ahead be the wife beater girl. I like that. You're the girl you do, you know.
You know the script I'll be there don't go for it and we'll go ahead and he's not getting the crowd. He's not getting a prenup fisher ha ha. So here we go. I'll be the girl. You're going to tell the girl. I like yeah, I won't make you get a prenup.
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. I'm doing
that. So, okay. So let's roleplay. Let's see if you know the script. Okay, you know, what if you love me, why would you want to get a prenup
because we love each other. So what we share everything we
have also you'll be the girl now. Yeah, you said okay, so you beat okay, so we love each other we should totally get it but at the same time people change and I don't
Know what's going to happen with you 5 10 15 years from now when you change when you do change and if you do change I'm not going to risk everything that I worked on for the last 32 years for them. God will and I want to be with you for the rest of my life. But of all of a sudden you change you want me to risk everything in the past. I'm not doing that
Pat. We love each other. We're gonna be together
forever and and I'm betting that we're going to be together for the rest of our lives. But again, God forbid if you choose to all of a sudden do something is something going on back there. Yeah, is it really no shit?
Is it really? What are you guys here yesterday to see what happened or know? What are you up to?
Yeah, we're here is crazy. I heard that saying flooding like
the 12 inches of rain or whatever schools getting shut down, but no I'm having that conversation with you and I'm telling you up front.
That I don't know whether you're going to change your not if you don't change we're going to be together forever. If you do change, I'm not going to give up what I worked for for the last 13 years,
like for certain people or for you is that an uncomfortable conversation to
have zero uncomfortable.
Was it easy one to pull off?
Absolutely, you know, why if you carry the weight you have the leverage good luck finding many men that are responsible men that have their shit together. Go ahead and find him. Yeah, go ahead a doer.
You're a doer as a man and you carry the weight and you providing experiences and on all facets. You're doing your part. Go ahead. I had a meeting with a guy. So he's having this conversation with me. Yeah, he's got a beautiful wife a Syrian guy love this guy from Chicago. He's one of the guys we consult for he makes 40 million year super successful guy, right?
We're having this meeting and he says what do I need to do for me to retain my c-suite executives?
What do I need to do? Sometimes I go to sleep and I'm afraid I'm going to lose my Executives and they going to go to different company.
I said are you married? He said of course, you know - I know your wife but said how pretty is your wife. She's beautiful said I think your wife's beautiful. You think your wife has a lot of options for other men.
So what kind of question is that? I said it's a very honest question. You got a beautiful wife when a man sees a woman. They don't say, oh, I can't look at her because she's married there. Like she's hot anything. There are certain men that are willing to break the rule and flirt with somebody that's married. Of course plenty of them are out there. Okay, great. So how come your wife hasn't left yet?
You think you're the best-looking guy in the world? You think you're the richest guy in the world? What makes you think you think you're the best in any area of Life? How come your wife hasn't left you by the way for five minutes. He doesn't know what to say. He is complete, you know where he's going he's going to do, you know something I don't know as my wife about to leave. He's freaking out like I'm about to get my wife to leave but that's not the case. You know what it eventually came to here's a part.
Five minutes later hasn't said a word then eventually says because I deliver I said so you gotta know so in his wall right in his office executive office. Guess what's the quote on the wall right behind his desk I deliver because I deliver massive that says because I so every day comes to his office and says what because I deliver so if your wife even if you deliver she chooses to leave you who's losses that now yours because the market still going to be good for you not for her you're going to find
Body, if you deliver so roses love a guy that could deliver right? Yes and all assets in all aspects of Life by the way. Yeah,
you got a lot of lost packages. Uh-huh. You got a lot of wreckage has returned to Sender. I always think of Larry David, you know, Larry David, obviously. Yes, he had to get when he got his divorce had to give his wife 400 million. Yeah, it's just like because not only at that point you hate that person, but you have to give him half of what you earn and I'm just like that's double
whammy it Bezos gave 30,
baby.
Hazel's to alkenes over 30 billion
30 billion.
So how do they are way she how does he know? How does he not get a prenup? Well, there must have been someone like know he might not use them in 130 time
together for 25 years. So 25 years it were married. They got divorced probably three years ago 28 years ago. I don't know what his net worth was 28 years ago 1995. Is that what 25 you 28 years would you guys are born 94 93 94. Okay. So 95
It is so 95.
What was Jeff Bezos worth in 95? I don't know.
Yeah, so I also think that kind of
money it's different. So but if you come from like you you got money you can't just be like yeah, babe. No. Yeah, there's zero to
what does that tell you though? If I girl says? Hey, I don't feel comfortable doing this. Is that when you say, okay, we're not getting
married. Of course.
Definitely. You gotta go all in at that
point, of course zero chance and they'll fold. Yeah. And by the way, you know why let's say you've you fold
She'll know you're threat. Hasn't Carrie. Wait for The Rush is better than 70. Laughs that after
that. What'd you say I said, she's flipping 72 upset if you fold on that. Oh, yeah. There's a story. I saw it. I wanted to ask you about it. You said at one point you were like a muscle for a drug dealer. Is that
true? So you saw that
visits all very it was a short
clip and he told that story one time or some like that. Yeah. Yeah. It was I got it's all true it is. Yes. I'll tell you this story. It's a funny story some
Story, I'm at Bally's. I'm 20 years old 20 Mega Sally took no Bally Total Fitness in Culver City. Not bad. Not the casino, but the club in there's this guy working there good-looking white guy tall 63 64 and he's working sales, but he doesn't want to sell anybody.
But he drives a Rolls-Royce outside. It's all right, very weird, you know situation here. He would have all these nice cars and but he would never sell when these come with his BMW and he's coming with this car.
Okay, then
how do you make money? If you don't sell any membership, they're paying minimum wage 720 you only make in 1200 bucks a month. And every time we get a walk-in you give it to one of us and a walk-in pays you 60 bucks. This is you think I want to make 60 bucks the hell am I going to do with 60 bucks? It's then why are you working here? So what are you doing this weekend? I said nothing so go party with me no
prom.
We go to Third Street Promenade and then he takes me to Marina it takes me to all these places. He introduced me to this Colombian guy and then he says this is how I make my money as I was that and you see a a mountain white powder in this corner and he says you want to make real money. I'll show you how to make real money. I said, how's that?
We have to go collect money from this one guy. You'll get paid for thousand dollars every week cash. I'll give you a few come and do this with me. So I'm like, oh my God, what am I getting myself into? So we go into this one Marina Del Rey? Yacht and it's filled with these guys party and all this other stuff and the goal was to get the hundred thousand dollars that we needed to get and anyways, 20 minutes later. We got the money and we left as a beautiful situation. They're happy. They're offering me all this stuff and
They said look man. If you do this with us every week will pay for grand every week cash now W to nothing and I go home. I'm like dude. I'm about to make some real money here. But at the same time I'm like, I'm about to go to jail. If I continue with this guy I thought about it for one week and then I'm like, no I'm not doing this. This is not going to be the way to go. But it was the one week that I spent time with this guy. I realized how he was making his money. It's also interesting story with them. Do you know David Geffen, you know, David give him one of the bigger.
Our Hollywood. He's like, yeah for sure. Yeah, so he is like the Weinstein, you know who Weinstein has right guys. I got caught. Okay. So given is one of these billionaires like three four billion Auto guy feared in Hollywood. He says one day I get invited to his house because this guy wanted to be a star actor good looking guy. He said we go to his house. It's me and my best friend and they say David wants you to come upstairs.
This is we go upstairs to the room like, oh my God. We're about to get into a movie. Dave has done all these different people. He find he's done this he's done. That is as we go upstairs to his room and he says so I'm thinking about putting you guys in this next movie, right? What do we need to do? You need to give him a blow job?
Holy shit.
And he says I look at my
friend. Well, hold on time you had to give it
or no? No. No, the guy this guy that was the cocaine guy was the guy that went to David's house being invited. Yeah, because he wanted to be an
They're like big-time actor. So he's telling him you got to give him head and I'll put you in a movie because he got off of seeing him doing this to each other and that was a starters. Anyways, his friend looks at him says look, bro. I'm willing to do it if we're going to get into a movie. It's got that little dog. I'm out of here. So he left he says that's when I said, I'm not doing anything with Hollywood and he got into cocaine business and that's how he made his
money. Damn. Yeah, I should spend that shit goes on. I guess that I've heard stories. I want to he can't
people have to be way more cautious and I feel like back then you probably could get away with a lot more but now I mean that's fucking crazy. I'm sure you see what movie was it hold on big film
or two good that's a very radical students have to see the script at least. Yeah. Yeah. I mean at least read the script we got to figure this out guys. I mean, it's not like it's going to be public but no, I mean listen, it's it to Hollywood. A lot of weird things would happen. I was a manager at Bally Xin chà o
Ward and Chatsworth at the time Woods 80% of all porn was shot in Chatsworth. I don't know if you guys knew this or not Chapel was like the the capital of porn and I would run the only Bally's club with outdoor swimming pool. So these guys would show up and they're like, hey, would you guys mind if we stay here afterwards and do stuff? I'm like look guys you got an hour and it would do all these crazy things and I'm like moving forward you guys can do this with a little bit too crazy what happened tonight, but you would get offered to be in movies all the time.
At LA Gym business if you working if if anybody's watching this you worked in any gym business in LA in 80's 90's, you would say, it's absolutely right all this craziness happens. It's that wild in the gym business you met everybody you make the guys that ran the biggest clubs the biggest promoters the guys with the best stuff drugs the guys that knew the girls, you know, the everybody let's say it's a
It's a very different weird place to work in but a lot of fun. Yeah.
Well, what age were you when you got out of there Jim's like just the Hollywood in general
22, 22 23, I went straight to financial services and then it was it was done from there.
Yeah, one more thing. I want to ask. I think did you set the record for like the most expensive house bought and the Fort Lauderdale area I did was it 20 point something million
twenty point four million. Yeah twenty point four million,
so that
The most expensive house ever purchased in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, that's a flex.
It makes where he does that.
11,000 square feet 800 feet of water Frontage a shy of an acre to acre three in a gated community messy is right next to us. He just moved in three months ago kids are doing trick-or-treating Messi's trick-or-treating with my kids. No really tell me that's not the weirdest thing in the world. He was dressed as a what do you call a gesture? Is that is that is that what it's called gesture? Yeah gesture. He was dressed as a gesture and his families.
Sheila's guy, you'll
meet well. Yeah, also your expectations for candy are probably pretty high up. Yeah. It's like saying guys
choco balls. I won't sign, you know gloves we want some real thing. But it
can you guys at the ball out here. It's writing
Community. Yeah. It's disappointing that that's all you got. Is that all you got a Kit Kat here and no Xbox, but but but no, but you know, yeah, so and here's what's crazy two months ago. The record was broken.
Bye house. That's only one point three acres Wall Street Journal just wrote about this my realtor. So that one on point three acres. How's that possible a 10,000 square feet sold for 40 million dollars. How would you mean he'll
this point three acres is nothing
though. Of course, it's nothing but you go and you buy my I bought my two and a half years ago.
How many acres you have
a Core 2 acre 3. Yeah are at the house the market here is wild. That's the same realtor.
That you know did our deal calling us and you can get 45 50 all day
today. We're moving here December really Miami. We're leaving Miami, California. You going to be Miami?
Yeah. What part
Miami area? Yeah, Miami like Edgewater whole crew Everybody.
Yeah, I'm gonna love it. I'm sure you know, this is coming over to your house bro. Come on down bro. Anytime Thanksgiving you gonna love it. You're gonna love it here. I'm sure you already know this but you're gonna love it here. We've been coming to visit here for like two years because we
have a lot of happy Dad relationships here, too. So we never had to pull our hair.
Are to come here, but now that we're going to be living here. It's just going to
be but I tell you that that delayed you guys getting married at least a decade ha ha ha because can take you long time. But that's what I mean. The girls are Miami.
We've already experienced like the crazy Miami life. We've been coming here for what two years signing lived here for a little bit, but you're right. It's just oh my God, it's just the place for that. Now.
This is why I live in Fort Lauderdale. I'm trying to stay married. You guys are trying to go to delay getting worried. Yes. Yeah.
On to the right place. Yeah, and by the way, it's just going to get it's just going to get crazier. Like I think the momentum is just getting started. Yeah, Miami. Oh, yeah, and at least it's going to last a decade. Okay. It's at least going to last a decade so you can have a lot of stories in Miami. Yeah, if you guys are moving said December you're moving down
here. Yeah
december-january. You already got the house and everything figured out
almost got it. Yeah, we have a
few everybody gonna be living together. No, I think we're going to have a few different
spots just because the if we
Got a big house all together the market here is crazy one and then we'd also need full-time security which is say my expense. I got one more thing. I want to ask you is kind of a random question. But a lot of people obviously ask you for advice. What's like, the number one question people ask
you depends who's asking ride like a you know, if somebody is single they're asking me about marriage if somebody is started a company raising money to different question. They're asking if there's somebody somebody selling a company
Hold the front advice when you're selling a company. You got to be ready for that one.
I'm thinking like a kid or there's a lot of like mid-20s young 20s that are like, I don't know what to do with my
life. Oh brother, I would tell them here's a number one advice. I give to that person join a community join a community that is led by a killer fastest way to accelerate learning like for example, if I wanted to go into Hollywood first thing I'm doing is if I was 20 years old trying to go into Hollywood. I would have gone into a community meaning Vince Vaughn Jon Favreau keep doing movies.
Together go into that Community. You're going to get a job Adam Sandler Schneider keep doing movies together get into that Community, you know, Jennifer Lawrence Bradley Cooper are doing get into that Community. If you want to get into the social media space get into this community find a community or line would get into that Community. You'll learn chaos. You'll learn their mistakes. You learn what they're doing, right? You'll learn habits negotiation behind closed doors cameras are off Howard. He talking what are they doing? How are they making decisions?
D closing deals, how dare you know their day-to-day stuff how serious are they do they have a balance of serious and having fun? You know, what is that balance that they're having? How do they call each other out? What is the level of accountability? How do you have the red conversations how to bring people together? These are how many books do you need to read to get that you can't but if you get into the right community that is like like this. Yeah, and so much is happening. It accelerates the learning.
Process by tenfold. So to me forget about what industry getting involved and forget about what company getting you get involvement which which killer are you going to go help which leader are you going to go support and go pick up that guy's habits what he's doing. You'll have an edge
amazing nice. I think, this is Ben. I've had a great time. I've had a blast with my day. Not yet. Not yet.
Said goodbye. I think another few years unless you get bit by the Love Bug
and then you just have no choice. Where did you meet your wife?
So we met first June of 02. I was in ensino North Encino, California. I'm a new bathroom washing my hands a guy Fernando loss of comes and sayings Pocahontas just walked in because my wife had hair all the way down to her lower back. I'm like really I'm with a girl. I'm about to get married to and I want whatever room. Yeah, I walk into the room and guess who's talking to?
Pocahontas my girlfriend so my girlfriend introduce me. Oh shoot my wife at the time. She's with a guy with eight years. My girl and I are together for three years and said, hey, here's Jennifer. I'm like, oh hey, what's up good to meet you. So tell me your background Tara great five years later is the first five and a half years later December 15th is the first time ever or both her and I are single and we're at JW Marriott, Palm Springs.
And we're having dinner and we start talking I said are you single she's I am I had just broken up with another girl of two weeks. I said, what are you looking for in a man? She pretty much at all the markers. She either
says that's your slide in line. What what are you looking for? A man? Just straight. What are you looking for in a man? That was
when you're looking for a wife now when you're looking for a girl you want to hook up with that? The line is not going to be what you're looking for will for man. If you're trying to hook up with a few trying to get married.
Yeah, I'm saying it's a power move. Yeah, I'm like, what are you looking for in a man? Because let's find out. Let's go through the filter because I'm try that. Yeah that well. I'm not looking to get married. No, that's I think it's still a power move.
I would look of lines little different.
Is it effective? It's yeah, let's try that. Mic'd up and see what happens. Let's try out
next year. That's funny bro. Let's try it on like 20 chicks. We have to be like he could keep a serious straight
face. No, he can't he's talented. He can do that. He's part of that community that can keep a straight face.
Face. Yeah, but yeah, so I asked anyways, you know, she jumps angle and then we drove home dropped her off couple days later. We met at Jerry's Deli. I said look, I think you like me. I like you. I think we should go out. She says there's no way that's going to happen. I see you as a friend she got up and walked out she got nervous and she went to Houston. I told my dad said that I want to go to Houston and surprise her and have lunch with her and come back. It's Christmastime. She's going to freak her out. If you do that anyways middle of the night I get a message from Iran.
Space like I respect you. I really enjoy our relationship, but I'm afraid I just got out of a long-term relationship. What if it doesn't work out? I don't want to compromise our friendship and I respond back on MySpace aside from risk, losing our friendship to you have any other concerns and she has this poster? She has it on the printed out and she responds back six hours later. Now, that's a great. That's the night. We talked for five and a half hours later five and a half hours. She comes back December 29th our first date.
We go to p.f. Chang's then our second date we go do the stairs we go to church we go to Santa Monica we go to Earth Cafe and we go to borders and I borrow a book on our second day called 101 questions to ask before you get engaged on our second date. Wow. I said, I'm not looking for a girlfriend. I'm looking for wife if this scares you totally understand but I've done the exercise with three other girls. I know exactly what I want take a week take as long as you want to answer the questions. If you want to get back together, let's go to room week later. She answered all of them. We had a six.
Meeting one by one by one. We went through the questions here and a half later. We got married. We have four kids now,
it's me and what so 14 years of marriage has
over 14 years of marriage. Yeah, by the way, highly highly highly recommend you go through that book for your own self. What's it called? 101 questions to ask before you get here outage. No, it's a guy named Norman, right? And by the way, I'm but
by their on Amazon Gabe.
Yeah, and you know what the book is it's just 101 questions. There's nothing
I'm in the book.
Like how many pages like it's 101 page. Oh and it's one question. If it's
just a question. I know you answer there is no like Seventeen steps to whatever here's 101 questions. You should think about before you get married. That's what that was about. So that's the format where you know, I bought 1,000 copies of that book and I started giving it to all my sales guys all the single guys. So any one of my guys I got married they all got married after reading that book with their girls all of them that don't buy you the thing is is
when you give her that bookie, you gotta be sure.
Right. Yeah, you can't
give that to anybody but but the thing is if you read it now for yourself, you're going to say dude. I'm not ready. Yeah, that's why it's a good exercise to do whether you want to get married or not because you're at least trying to think about these are actually good questions. Yeah, you know because if the Love Bug all of a sudden happens, you're like dude, hang on a second that question number 38 really got me thinking. What do you think about bah-bah-bah-bah-bah, you know, so too many times we just get married because sex is good because she's hiding all my God. We're having so much. She's so much fun.
And I just love seeing her it takes more than that to
marriages. You remember some of the
questions what baggage do you bring to the table? Who's going to manage the finances? How long can you handle with me being away? How many days if I'm doing work? How many kids do we want to have? You know, how do you manage relationship with in-laws? What you going to do if I might have a health issues and I can't have sex for six months and it's very very much of real real real questions. You'll go through.
Yes, you're avoiding the problems before you get married
still.
Sway to do it. Even if when you become a business partner, it's the best way to do how many people start podcast together two years later. It doesn't work out. We are not doing your thing. And you didn't care you I was not for I did it as you then you do the second time around. Hey, let's get terms. Let's put everything on this. Here's how this works. Good. Let's roll great. So you're avoiding future arguments. Yeah. That's what it does. Yeah, and I'm all about avoiding future arguments. Of course. Yeah.
All right. I love it. Well, this is amazing. We appreciate you having
This was fantastic really enjoyed it.
Thanks guys. Let's hang out again to if we moved to look
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