We buy and sell politicians, essentially. They control who gets appointed to the key government positions ... They're looking out for the industry; they're not looking out for the people. We, in turn, as taxpayers, are subsidizing the production of the wrong kind of food ... So, we actually help the industries, as citizens, to sell the wrong kind of food. We get sick. That makes more customers for the health system.

As far as the protein itself is concerned, surely those kinds of proteins, the plant-based proteins, they're going to be better. There's no question about that.

Doctors don't get trained in nutrition. There's not a medical school in the United States where they teach nutrition ... They're trained to treat illness, primarily through the use of pharmaceuticals or drugs. So, nutrition is kind of strange to them.

Now, we essentially buy politicians. We don't have the elections that we once had ... Money plays a big role in elections as we all know.