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But now, ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome
Mark Normand.
Wait, a we on yes, sure. Oh jeez. I didn't know that. All right, that we're on a comedy. I didn't know if I was gonna trash those other Comics just mentioned. So I had to had to make sure good to be here. Thanks my new
studio. Yeah, different. We're in a new place. I like this place is very sexy. Yeah.
It is kind of like what? I imagine the inside of a dildo looks
like, hey, this is the Fleshlight rare. Yeah, ribbed for your pleasure. Smells weird too. And it's a little sticky. But yeah, so you're seeing
Tom Segura at some point I think while you're in town, he's just finished a 300 date tour.
What do people who have never been on tour that look at comedians that are traveling the world and think our that's cool. Yeah. Be good to do. What did they not know about what to our lives? Actually? Like, well there's a couple different kinds. There's the, and the two extremes would be Segura and Bert which and their friends their yin and yang. And Bert is a drunk fat guy who's partying worse, Agora has a trainer every morning at 8 a.m. He doesn't really drink, he eats. Well, he's playing the piano. He's
Fighting. So that's really the tour life, you know, just which one are you on that spectrum? And I'm more towards Bert and I'm worried because I'm gonna die but that's really that's really what it is touring is grueling and it looks fun. We show the Instagram of us on a jet or at the big arena with the chandelier and the the curtains, but it's a lot of get up. What are we doing today? Oh, we gotta go to the airport. All the airports in a different language. We got to figure this out.
It's a lot of logistics and that part
sucks.
But it's fun. Yeah, I don't know. I guess the reality from the outside is tons of travel. Yeah, packing. And unpacking. Yes, being in and out of
hotels. Nightmare, it's all a blur. It's like that Montage in Fight Club. We're just going from place to place and you're like, who am I, where am I? What's going on? I gotta write a new joke. Is that joke. So you're on the flight, any moment you have your like, all right, I got to rest and think about my ACT.
Yeah, I guess. Um, Ryan long was talking about this as well. The reality of to life is so different.
To what people sort of Ideal. Ah, yeah. I'm what I think most guys are doing at the moment, is these little weekends, right? Yeah, jump out, spend a weekend two nights three nights, if you can and then you come back, it's like I kind of have a life but then I don't have a life and then I, yes, have a life and I don't, you're going to Australia
and wash over a month, but those weekends are, that's ideal because you get to escape. Yeah, your girlfriend, you hate your husband, you hate your wife, you hate your apartment, you hate your city. I live in New York and says hobos and and shit on the street and Subways. So then you get to go to Denver and
Like smoke weed. I'll go get a hike. I'll do shows. And then I'll come back. So, it's perfect. It's like a built-in marriage saver.
Have you heard of digital blackface?
Oh, wait a minute. Is that where you act black online?
Kind of he has. So this is from CNN. If you're white and you've posted a gift for a meme of a black person to express a strong emotion, you may be guilty of wearing digital blackface, right to John Blake. Maybe you shared that viral video of Kimberly, sweet brown wool.
He's telling a reporter after narrowly, escaping an apartment fire ain't nobody got time for
that. Ha ha
ha. You posted that Meme of supermodel Tyra Banks exploding in anger on America's Next Top Model. If you're black and you shared such online images, you get a pass, but if you're white, you may have inadvertently perpetuated. One of the most Insidious forms of contemporary racism. You may be wearing digital blackface simply put digital blackface is 21st century Minstrel. See men's men's drawn on some internal,
see
Wow. I mean, I thought I was being inclusive by adding some black people in my memes and my gifts isn't that diverse some diversifying, my gifts appropriating, I guess. So
G's ask Jordan Peterson, what a color Emoji. He uses. Ha ha, he said black. Oh,
really? That's what are you can't get in trouble? Me. We're all using the eggplant that's black, is
it? Oh, did you expect based on size?
So isn't did I just dark shade of purple? But, you know, Mulan, Ian is what Italians call black people and that
Eggplant. That's the that's the end learning for Italian. You're kidding me. Yes, and so moolinyan, like these bullying. Yawns over here, stole our truck. And it means eggplant. It means I plan an Italian, but that's their n-word. Wow. Oh yeah.
Italians, don't give a
fuck. They don't give a fuck. And it sounds cool Bulan. Yeah, it's just sounds pretty,
you know, always be less expensive than hard are in your way
through some get nitration, tirade, exactly. They also have call a retarded people retired, add a knob skin,
But that would be, I'm sure they got a cool word for that too.
But yeah, digital blackface man, you got to be careful out there.
Well, they do number one threat to America's white supremacy according to our president. So an interesting one I see I like this stuff because it just shows that we're not that racist. If we have to look this far to find racism, that's a good sign that maybe we're not as racist as we could.
So I learned about this idea called concept creep which you'll probably be familiar with. But the way that it's sort of come across or
Used I guess in the modern world is is super super interesting because let's say that. There's a bar of racism that needs to be. Other is a demand for racism that are of real. It's called a biker
bar. All right. Sorry ah there's a demand
for racism that needs to be met and if racism isn't getting much bigger, what you need to do is expand the definition of it in order to maintain the supply perfect. Yeah. So concept creep is when the demand for racism outstrips the supply of racism. Yes.
Need to continually make more and more things racist to keep that level high.
Wow, see I love when these
smart people come up with
terms because it just solidifies all right there, it's succinctly explains it.
Well, if you think about, there are a number of people whose basically in Thai curry, it's, you know, this CNN reported, they need to write an article, right? John Blake needs to write an article for CNN for today. God, what am I going to write about is, well, you're the racism guy like? Yeah, she lies in races, right? You got to go get out there. Find yourself, some digital black face and that's
The thing. But yeah, I think, looking at fascinating looking at the increased dilution of what different types of bigoted isms, and OB has and whatever's the reason for that is that there is a lack of Supply. Yes. Still an amount of demand.
It's kind of like crackheads. Well like you start out with a good good. Solid crack rock and then eventually like maybe I mix baking soda and a frog's ass and like peroxide, I'll get high.
Hi and it's not actually drugs anymore but you just you need to open it up a little more to get high. Did you can't get the crack
so you'll sing modern-day racism is like poor quality drugs
yet stepped on right? You know it's got baby like what is pure racism? Yeah
your racism that we do. You like good old-fashioned Colombian? Yeah, wreck from The Source Jim
Crow that was pure cut cocaine, you know, Jim Crow. KKK the the what he called the hoses with the dogs civil rights stuff that was
That was pure cut and now we're stepping on it with fucking beige black face. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Like faces baby powder for that, right? I sent you earlier on a video about Dove.
Yeah, that was
great. So for the people that haven't seen it, Dove is on a mission to challenge and change female representation in video games and help make gaming a positive space for women and girls. So they've created this video of like, super hero girls superhero and they she slays
This this evil body and then she comes back into the changing room and takes her armor off and gains 80-pound. Yeah, that was a immediately and then like, sits down, puts her hands behind her back and realizes, I don't need to wear the armor that is holding me in and then she goes out and like keeps on fighting but now she's 80 pounds bigger. Yeah, female characters in games. Do not accurately represent the diverse Gamers of the world and are often heavily sexualized and created within narrow. Unrealistic beauty standards, 74 percent of girls feel unrepresented in video games.
Um, I'm looking forward to the Call of Duty
lizard-skin dropping. I want to unlock unlock Liz. Oh, it's too big of a Target terrorist. It's too easy. But here's my thing with a couple things. I love the idea of the animator being like the directors, like we need are fatter, he's like, ah shit. Alright, so yes the bigger bigger but also I get it look, it's all I'm all about helping women and having them being represented. But aren't we going? It's getting hacky now like Miller.
A light Bud, Light. All the Starbucks had a big commercial with the Trans and you're like, well now it's just hacked, the whole thing with the marketing and, and stuff like this, like this kind of art, you gotta go a new way, isn't that? The whole point of being original like you, when they Zig, you zag and they're all zagging, everybody's going in the same direction. Yeah, so I'm like, to me, it's not even about the, the woke shit or whatever you want to call. It's like, you're just being unoriginal now, it's boring, it's boring. I think the main concern that people
Vegetable. And it's kind of the same as the like, Supply demand problem for racism, which is, it doesn't seem genuine. Yes, it's Forest. Yeah, completely
for is completely. Oh, what do you call that starts with a C contrived? Thank you. You nailed fuck, yeah, wow, Upton. What's up together?
He reads are singing. That's menstrual cycle.
Exactly. So just roll cycle of minstrel e-cycle. So
yeah, I think it's just that people don't believe that.
That this is, is this actually coming from a place of genuine sympathy or is this coming from? What's it called? Walk washing
yes, Madison
Avenue, yeah, I learned what's the fucking thing. Wolk washing is allowing Brands to monetize virtue signaling. It conceals the less altruistic business practices, so Miller Lite and Bud Light. You know, is two good examples that you brought up there? They'll, where are they getting their tin from? Is anybody looking at the aluminium that goes into the can
It's not like looking at the production processes. They meeting sanitation standards. Are they doing all the rest of it? And it's like, no, but they gave Dylan Mulvaney, six a six pack with her face on it. Like enough to look over there. Look over there. You don't need to look over here. Yes, yes. And I think with the dovetail Dove maybe actually does feel a little bit like a company that for a long time has been fighting for different Beauty, standard save ya with skin. That's true. Like trying to get representation for different goals but if you're going to fight the good fight,
Right? It doesn't feel like video games at the place that girls are looking. Yes, I find their representation
exactly and they are. There was no soap in that commercial, there was not one bar of soap without a ladder, no explosion nothing. Yeah, exactly, which is video gaming, and I'm like, I don't know. It's all so weird that we have to shoehorn, women. Sure, there are women Gamers. I'm sure. But like, it doesn't feel like that's their their big demo is he's fat ladies like like advertise on Vanderpump Rules.
Rules like every lady. I know my wife included has like six girls over there are watching it. I walk in there like shit, stand up, selling Sunset. Oh yes shit like yeah it was
the bigger goal on selling
Sunset. Exactly. Exactly but she's not there which is also probably why it's doing well you know it goes back to the Barbie, it's like Barbies unrealistic. And I'm like yeah but who wants a realistic toy, you know, but women think they're going to think they have to look like that. I'm like
Maybe they want to look like that, or maybe you know, that's, that's okay. If you want to like, I, every superhero I had it was jacked, I don't want a fat superhero. Well, I'm not Jack
to someone. So I put this out on Twitter earlier on and someone replied and said, they can't wait for a version of Kratos, you know, from God of War, the family with Donna. And that just like a jacked, God. God figured type guy. Can't wait for skinny fat, Kratos or solid snake brain.
To be creeping around. But he's lost a foot to diabetes.
Like I
don't know, just the seems to me if you need. If you're so narcissistic that you need direct representation. Yeah, your avatar in a computer game. There are bigger problems than Simply Having a full of figured avatara going to be able to
fix. Yes, completely, and it's just human nature. We like to look at attractive things. I mean, every president who one has been taller, every I think maybe except for one but it's always a taller guy who wins full head of hair helps? Yeah.
I mean, it's in men to like we want our men looking the right way as well. What was that? Was
it Nixon. Did he do some famous debate? Yeah, it was one of them are sweaty and the other one wasn't
sweaty. He did one on radio and one against Kennedy because he couldn't speak how good-looking Kennedy was. And then when they were a TV aired, it Kennedy one
that pretty privileged man. Yeah, I don't know, I think it's just, it's such a shame that you have conversations to get captured by
I like that there are much longer levers than trying to fix,
yes, whether or not
girls are being misrepresented in video games,
exactly. And that, let's talk to the lady, see what they think. Also it just first of all, It Feels So forced but I forgot my point. You said something? Say it. Say what you said again, maybe it'll jog it, that it goes. Oh I got it back thanking. That's all I needed. Was your sweet sweet in English voice. So oh I lost it again. Say it again.
Start talking.
Oh, I got it. I got it. I got it, that was real but you mentioned the the tin can. Where's that coming from? And then like here's a perfect example, Kaepernick everybody's blowing Kaepernick, he's kneeling he hates police, I get it Nike. The biggest example, of all sweatshops, you know, we need the Asian fingers to make the shoes and all that. And you could Overlook that because you're looking at the guy with the afro, who's got the fist up and you go, hey I'm a good person. But when you say to
People, but what about the Sweatshop people? They go out and you're like, no, no, no, you don't not allowed to go ahead, hit me with the Sweatshop and like Kaepernick you have to, if you're such a morally, good person and Superior correct, you have to agree to both but they just they just shot one out and that's where I get pissed.
Well, hypocrisy is just like the perfect tool that people want to point out on the internet. Yeah. Because For the First Time Ever, we have this locked in stone history of every single thing that we've said previously.
Sleeves. We set it at the times that we said it and it allows you to. So hang on you making this point now, but I can see that. That's not exactly. Yeah, lined with what you used to say previously. Right. So what am I smart friends on that. Taught me about concept creep. He also told me that in the modern world, our opinions and our Deeds have never been further apart. Mmm. In the past, any opinion and any deed would have ended up being stress tested at some point. If you say that, you're a good person and 20,000 years ago around the
The campfire and yet every time you go hunting, you don't bring back meat for everybody else. You just bring it for your family, eventually someone's going to go. Well, come on you. Keep saying that you're a good person, right? Whereas on Twitter, no, one ever actually ends up, scrutinizing. The way that you show up in real world. You can be the most empathetic Pro female person in the world. You go home and beat your wife. Yes. And nobody knows what for the most part. Nobody knows. And then when people get rumbled for it, that's why it feels so satisfying to. Yes, I think that it's because we
I have this sense that a lot of the people who push virtual real virtual beauty or pushed digital blackface is something that should genuinely be cared about are just doing performative. Empathy. I don't think that we believe that it's true
completely right. But the problem with the, the empathy is like, when you're on the other side of it we like let's say you're Ellen who you know, big cunt and her thing is like well you said, because she was the happy dance. See nice lady and then we found out. She was a Coos everybody flipped on her because
She was performing but the problem is Ellen could be like well I donate a million dollars to charity. I do all this, I help the homeless, I hope old people but we just know about the cut thing. Yes. So you don't get that redeeming part and we love Sam. Harris had a great point. He said, if the first time you hear about somebody is when they've done something wrong, maybe don't jump to hate them. That's the first thing. You've heard about them. What about all the other? Good shit they did, but we don't care about that. We just go. Michael J. Fox said, fag
88. I've never heard of this guy. Like if you're some young person I've never heard of Michael. J. Fox. I hate him now you're like you hate him now because you heard one thing about him on the in a headline but you just did you totally disregard his whole other life? It's crazy.
It's a shame that we sort of jumped to conclusions so quickly. And this difference between opinions and deeds, the fact that you're able to behave in one way and say different thing and people will
care about what you say more than what you do. Ya do is never seen.
Exactly.
But it also means that when you do try and actually put some empathy across that gets scrutinized to well. Well, maybe you're just doing this because no, I genuinely care. I care about this movement or I care about this group of people, This Is Me Being Earnest or, or vulnerable or open and not. For some perverse reason I'm doing this because I actually care about a thing. Yeah. And immediately people use the same idea, the methodology, the skepticism they have about all the others.
It from all of the other people that have been doing the concept creep, supply-demand bullshit and then they apply to you and you go. Okay. And I think that disincentivizes people can blue genuine completely altruism as well.
I agree. Yeah, it's a tough time makes people just not want to do anything and just hang back so they don't get yelled at
you seem to be quite a positive person generally. Yeah. Yeah I think so. How do you avoid getting drawn into cynicism? And there is this sort of culture of negativity and
Yes, is among the internet. What's your profit lactic against that? What do you what condom you wearing?
Well, I hear the old post and ghost. I'm a big on that and my friend he works with Louis c.k. a lot. So he gets a lot of hate, you know. So he just started blocking everybody and he's like I don't even hear them anymore. Like, anybody who says one thing, I just start blocking them on Twitter or whatever and so it just eventually he kind of like cleaned it out and I'm like, that's pretty good but you still have to go in and read it to block it. Yeah. So
Don't want to do that. So I just kind of I let it go and there's some sure this fire is going on all over and I just try to put out of my
mind, not protect your mental space relatively while it seems
relatively. Well, I mean, I've definitely had my weeks of like sleepless nights or like this guy said this, it Taps into some fucked-up thought you had about yourself and it validates all the evil thoughts you have. And then it just it just mushroom clouds and your brain and you're in the shower going. Maybe I am attracted to
Kids, you know, or whatever the fuck and I'm not but you know, people can just get in your head and you know, when I was 15 I was like, am I gay? Maybe I'm gay. Am I gay? And I had this friend who is super hot and ripped and I blew up. No but I had this friend. He was super hot. I kept being like, am I attracted to him? I don't know, I don't know, and it's the say you can do that with anything. Like, am I racist? What the hell? And I'm like, hanging out with a bunch of black guys last night at the mothership, and you're just like, what about? I'm not racist but you just your brain can
These fucked-up places especially mine, Mike. It really turn on me. It's
so funny that you can question your own sense of self completely because of what, somebody's, just prodded and poked you in the direction of at the right
time. And that's really what Twitter is. It's this weird little prodding and Colin Quinn, describes it as you're giving yourself schizophrenia because it's literally eight million opinions and you're just absorbing all of them. And that's what schizophrenia is just eight hundred voices going off all the time and really
Soul sing.
Personal insults from
Hinton. Yes, yes, exactly. That's
some somehow has said that being on Twitter is like the most malignant form of telepathy. Ever, the only allows you into the worst of everybody else's
thoughts. Wow,
classic classic wordsmithing from, he's the king, mr. Harris, he's the
best. I mean, there's not a lot of positivity, is not a lot of. Like, I had a great day today. Just had a hell of a turkey sandwich, and I got a great, my ass got eaten. You don't really see that on Twitter, you know, it's just, you know, this guy's races, he's a piece of shit, whatever.
Yeah, that's an idea for a future tweet. You can throw that out talking about whatever it is that you've eaten. And then what when you've been eaten? Yeah, avoiding the cynicism things. It's a tough one man. And I really I'm really trying to sort of slowly nudge myself away from our really trying to rail against it. Yeah. Just seeing what happens if you do try and give people a little bit more hope you know Michael malice even though you're Michael.
Yeah I smart
guy. Yeah. So he wrote this book about the period from sort of
20:19 10 up to 1990 in Russia, and it's all about the absolute errors of Communism and famine, and all sorts of crazy Fakhri. His point was, we thought that this was the worst of the world could ever get. This is how low things sank. These are the terrible stories of famine and prisoner mistreatment and children and all this sort of stuff and the good guys won. So his argument, he was called the white pill, the bug. And the reason for that was that he said, if you
That the evil people always win here is the most Stark example of the evil people
losing. Oh, thank God. But the problem is, it took 90 years or whatever you said, that's the problem is you want it to happen next week. But it takes so long and then, you know, like, black people were marginalized and oppressed and all this and now I feel like they're doing doing well, but now it's kind of like fuck y t. So we're going to be in that for a while and that'll go away but it just, it just sucks when your life and
Adulthood is like right in the middle of the shit
part. That's a really good point. I often, you know, there was this really interesting study. I remember seeing ages ago, that looked at the difference. If you were born in, I want to say 1920 or 1930. If you were born in 1920, you grew up during the formative years when you needed nutrition. Being the Great Depression.
Ha ha ha. Then by the time that the war came around,
you were conscripted to go and fight. Yes. And then let's say that you've survived. Both of
Those traumas, you finally came out and like died in the 70s or some shit like that. Let's say, whereas if you're born in 1930, you've got to you weren't, conscripted you came out, the other side, you got to live most of your glorious through swinging
60s,
psychedelic Revolution, right? You know, increase the quality, all this sort of stuff and yeah I do wonder sometimes in retrospect. What am I going to think about the generation that I was a part of
totally throw in a pandemic? Throw a 911 throwing the George Floyd stuff like
Like it's a wild time but you know the sixties were wild and MLK got shot. They went to the moon Vietnam, so there's always, there's always bad shit but the problem is this is new bad shit with the internet. This is all unprecedented. Yeah. Novel novel problems. Yes, yes. So we're not only we figure out how to deal with it. We don't know what the hell it is, and it's all new and kids are killing themselves, and girls are depressed. And, you know, we're addicted.
60% of teenage girls say that they have.
Assistant or regular feelings of
hopelessness. Unbelievable. It's so sad. And, you know, like the 60s you mentioned growing up then or in the 20s and the 30s and the depression and all that good World War one too. I bet they were happier. You think I bet they were happier because you had a goal. It's like depression. Got to get bread. Got to get food. Gotta get some water. Now, I'm in World War One. Gotta Stay Alive, Gotta Stay Alive. Now, it's world to got to stay alive. You know, the though, the Air Raids rare, you know. I think that was
At least somewhat, we have a common enemy, we got a common goal to survive. Now, it's just like this looming cloud of sadness and like, did I get enough clicks? And is this person gonna drag me online? And, you know, it's just, it's just weird kind of fun. Grabbable sadness. Whereas before it was very like, the Russians are going to shoot us or Hitler's bad or
whatever. I'm being anxiety.
Hey, that's good. Yeah, we're in
a and but it's the I totally get that, the directionless
The fact that you don't have a single call it an enemy, or a life goal or the direction. You're moving toward means that you kind of just get distracted by everything. And I think a lot of people have this sense that a lot of their mental time in their sanity is taken up worrying about things, that probably don't matter. Yes. That, just the number of cycles that your brain goes through per day. Having thought that tomorrow, you're not going to be glad that you had career. Who it was that says, the bizarre thing about life is that it has to be lived forward but only makes sense in reverse.
Oh, that's good. When you think about the fact that, you know, you look back over the last five years of your life, although it may be from 10 years ago until five years ago, you can kind of. Oh yeah. Well I understand I was I was here and that's why I was here. And then this thing happened and then that changed me in the whatever. And then you look at now and you go, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah. Like why, what why what, what are all of these different contributing elements? And am I doing it right? Yeah, right. I might be doing it wrong and yeah, they'll be doing it show. Even change
it. Exactly. I know it's it's tough because you know, you know when you
No, a relationship and you're like, man, I want to get out, I hate this girl, she hates me. All we do is fight and then you break up and you're like, I miss her. I love her so much. Their relationship was perfect. And I think we're going to look back on like that. Like right now it's like this looming, what did you say? Ambient anxiety, and bit anxiety, which sucks and I it's always in my brain and I hate it. I can't shake it but I think when I'm 80 I'm gonna look back and go, man, the internet. Those are wild time porn. Only fans Stormy Daniels Rachel
Zola. We're gonna look back and go. Wow, that was fucking nuts because we're not going to remember
all the ambulance and I thinking about Stormy Daniels on your
8000. I like to jerk off to her cuz I know her it's fun to jerk off. Someone who's on the news. You know, you get to see the CNN story and then go right there like that you can text you right away. Yeah. So it's it's a cookie time but I think you gotta just press on and my thing is I use the internet like you want to fuck with my head. Well, I'm going to use you and get
I can get out of you. Meaning like post Clips, do podcast, share everything, reach a bigger audience. So there are perks. It's like fire. It can burn your house down but it can cook your
food. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I think looking at how to use the internet more healthily is a challenge for everybody. That's trying to make anything, right? Yeah, because as soon as you post something is inevitable criticism. I know and posting ghosts not a bad solution for that or just do a salmon completely
Do your entire account and just exit exit, the internet at large. That's another solution. I
guess my friend did there and he lost 30 pounds. He's like happier. He sees his kids more because when you really look at your phone and think about, like you get that screen time thing. Oh, what a kick in the balls that is that hurts. My wife's always like, I have no time and I'm like, I watched you look at Tick-Tock for two hours to out. You could have watched a movie, you could have read a book, you could have flown to to
Florida.
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Clear. You know, they would have did the top percentage 10% of guys who all get laid and then the rest are just in cells School shooters and you know basement dweller son's. Yeah, exactly. So those guys are all gonna turn to this it with the the path of least resistance always wins. So one of the
push bikes that I spoke to one of my friends, William Costello about this evolutionary psychology guy, the problem you have with AI girlfriends is that there is no Prestige associated in having one.
Cuz there's no process of selection.
It's a, it's the
same way as saying. I subscribe to amaranth. Only funds account, aren't I so special and you go. Well, anybody who has the price for spare, cheeseburger per month. Can subscribe to the only funds, so it doesn't make you special. Yeah, that's good. His thought like a slight white pill that's in there is it should be able to solve people. That are very lonely but it's not going to take the place of genuine females because it's not sufficiently.
This find there's no Prestige because you're not being selected and the selection things, very
important, I completely agree. And that's good that we, if we start praising, these guys, like my AI girlfriend's hotter than your AI. Girlfriend then we're fucked. But the fact that it's not impressive as a good sign because that means it won't be. It won't be a
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Got a Chris pot made not the people can access but that I can use for asking it questions on q&a's and I used it and Dewey's that these guys can do. So they could just take every podcast episode that you've ever been on. Ya run that through a language, learning model, and there you go. There's a moderately accurate. Mark. Digi Digi
Mark. Oh my God, Marc bot. That's a bummer. Yeah, sorry folks. You don't want to of this, that's not good. Do you imagine
how ridiculous a
If you would be oh God. I know I'd be late, first of all, but in the aione, but I heard a comment Go on stage because all these convicts were worried about Ai and he did. I'm gonna read a joke, I wrote and a joke that a I wrote in my voice and you see if you can tell and he did both and his joke was so much better and it made me feel a lot of
relief. You still light years ahead of what the a I bought can
write. Yeah because joke comedy's all context, you know, and computers can't feel
Context and I think that's, that's a big part of it. Computer can have a Twist in a setup and a punch but it doesn't doesn't have that little, you know, when a joke bombs as a comedian go well that bombed and that gets a laugh but I don't think I could do
that. Someone said on a podcast, I was listening to will know the a eyes are fully conscious when it exits the interaction and regrets. Not saying the funny thing that it should have done, is it's on its way down
there hahaha. Wow that's brilliant.
That's killer, but like, here's a great, here's a great old joke, you know, the this is Junior. Stop because joke. Brilliant Community goes the Holocaust actually had a lot of mentally challenged people in it, but you never see pictures of them because they're all smiling and it's a great joke, but a, I could never be that Twisted to think of that. And that's why I love comedy.
There was a called Doc, is it called doc bot, uh-oh, which they tried to.
To do a version of chat GPT, but the whole thing was trained on the darknet as opposed to on the surface web. Yeah, so this is all of the fucked-up only accessed custom access forums and like dark versions of 4chan and shit like that and they trained this thing on that and I don't know maybe that will be able to do the fucked up jokes. I'm not sure but maybe I hope I think
I would be worried if I was a YouTube thumbnail Creator if I was a middling legal sort of litigation person. Yes if I added the worry yeah or if I was like maybe a radiologist that's looking at scans that are kind of relative to break down. So those kind of you know, they're still quite complex jobs but those jobs that are a little bit more automated. Yeah I think comedy is probably going to be one of the ones that's safe for a little.
It longer at least
totally and you like a guy or a gal, you know, you go I like Ali Wong you know, even if I don't love that last joke she said or whatever you just like her, are you relate to her? You connect with her and I think with a radiologist, there's no none of that.
Yes. So it's not just the context of the joke, it's a context of the person that tells the joke,
completely. You know, people go Joe Rogan. That's my guy. That's why I got. He's, he fits for me and
hopefully laugh at something even if it was totally shit. Exactly, they've got this warm feel. Yeah. I mean, I saw Joe, do I say
Set. It was maybe the first one I saw him. And
At least I would say 20 percent of it was storytelling. Hmm. You know, the there was it was humorous or whatever but it was like he did this bit about, is it cuts the animal? That's got the females have got like a clip deck. Is that coyote
or zalem laughs? Hyena hyena? Maybe. Yeah,
you like hearing him talk and it's kind of entertaining. But what, like, 90 minutes into learning about the, like the unique physiology of female, hyenas hearing. This is just a,
It's your version of the podcast right necessarily even to do with the joke, right? So a lot of the time people go because they just feel comfortable. Yes, link to this person speak our, this is familiar.
Also, you know, Joe actually gives a shit about that. Yes. And that makes you give a shit a little more click. He's not this. This is kind of funny like he's actually interested in that hyena. Clit. Yes. So that helps but like Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, I don't know anything about Tom Hanks, but we love them. We love Tommy if he's in
A movie you just it bumps up the box office tenfold because we all love Tom Hanks. We know zero about him except that he's been retard of military. Guy a baseball player you know an astronaut but I don't know. Anybody does he like chocolate is he pedophile or whatever? You know but you like
him have you ever been down? The Tom Hanks is part of the Illuminati Rabbit Hole.
I don't want to go. That's
terrifying, what? Going?
So I'm even know what the Illuminati is if you guys in a room with Macon
face.
One. If anybody wants to look at it Google Tom Hanks, glove Instagram photo. So there's a sequence of people that take photos famous people that take photos and I think Tom was taking photos of lost gloves, his thing. So you'd see, what on the street, you take a phony, put it on his Instagram, and in a bunch of the different photos. People had found chalk text that had been written on the floor below it and it's downtown fucking Denver or some shit so, you know, could just be anything
NG. But people then started putting these codes in on the internet and bro. It's such a rabbit hole. Oh yeah, it's terrifying. They're so
interesting here for ya I wouldn't I don't want to
go you seen Tom Hanks his son
chat. I love that guy while hilarious. Absolutely wild dude. I love that guy. Good for he when he when he stopped that ladies like yeah I don't give a fuck and she's like you just think it's this this he's like yeah that's what I think it is and I was like yeah fuck this
lady. Have you have you ever had people kind of trying and
Flummox you and I don't know how much newsy interviewee real press shit. You do
not a ton but I've definitely had people like so, you think that and they keep trying to got you you and you're like, what are we doing here? I thought we were just gonna hang out and talk or be funny and they're like, but you you so you're saying a lot of, so you're saying I'm like, no, I'm not saying that at all. Stop telling me what I'm thinking, you know but that's what we do because they want that clip or they want that that win and it's a real bummer you know so you you think Ivermectin is whatever? I'm like, I'll have to say
It's a Pulitzer prize-winning drug, it's taken by millions. Oh, so you don't think it's horsepower? Like, you haven't heard of ivermectin till two days ago, now you're like wildly angry about it, you know, like I'm not the weirdo here, you're the weirdo. I'm agnostic. I don't give a shit I'm neutral.
Speaking of try to stay neutral, Forrest, Gump, and Tom Hanks, one of my friends is running across America at the moment, so he's doing 64 65 days. 50 miles a day. So, I think a few thousand people
To the top of Everest. 300 people have run across America. Wow. So he's going to be the fastest practical will Googe good if people want to go and check them out, they can Google will goujian support the run and shit like that but he's in. Where is he now? He's in the Appalachian Mountains. Wow, Nia. He's going from LA to New York.
Good for him. Have you heard this new thing taking over where people do a 12-hour, walk?
Yes, money, my friends did this on Sunday. Really. And they
say, after about six, seven out, first of all,
Feet are bleeding, you know, but your brain goes to these places because we're so used to just being constantly entertained phone screen, computer TV Netflix but it just go, third grade teacher. Oh summer camp and you just go to these crazy memory banks and it's pretty wild all
the times that you were molested is going
to eat. Yeah yeah. I don't need a walk for that but I think this is the new craze is this like shutting down Amish full?
On disconnect. What, what's that? What's that
Jewish thing that people's Shabbat is it? What's the thing where that is
something shabbat shalom,
why they do the don't use the Sabbath kind of I think I'm pretty sure it's called Shabbat. Anyway, it's from Friday evening until I think Saturday and they don't turn on any lights. They don't do any work, they don't blah blah blah but I'm pretty sure that in really, really hardcore Jewish households for some of the things that they need to do. They have it's almost like a Shabbat
Servant to do things like turning it off. The oven have a weird labels.
Upright. No, no. They'll write people in Brooklyn is orthodox, guys. Like, can you come in here and turn the light on, you're kidding. I swear to God, you'll say the and do it. So some some kid in the neighborhood is like, all right, it's flips it on.
That's so funny. It's so silly religion is so many dumb loopholes and stuff like that.
Where are you living now? In New York,
I'm in the West Village
Manhattan. Okay, so he's not on the island
on the island baby, you know, Greenwich Village, that's Bob Dylan, Bleecker, Street Washington Square Park, The Comedy, Cellar, the whole thing, and why
you did you purposefully pick the distance from that to the cell? Has not to go too,
far to work. Well, I've always wanted to live in the village. Just being a kid growing up in the South. Just think about it. A Greenwich Village. Wow.
You know, Bill Cosby Woody Allen all the other rapist but you know they would all play these coffee houses and and all that stuff. So beatnik and folk music and all that. So I always loved it so I moved to New York lived in Brooklyn way out got mugged got beat up all that shit, bed bugs and then slowly move my way to Greenwich Village.
So this story from some go in New York women are wearing a safety layer over their outfits in public to deter creepy men with
Many labeling, it's sad but necessary this girl captioned the clip. The real fit is underneath, apparently. It's because of weird men on the Underground. Others who hadn't heard of this trans, expressed, how sad, but necessary it is. This is sad. Someone else called it. What's it called a fashion, safety layer, or the men? Blocker. Whoa, but there's all of these stories about just how bad New York Subway is at the moment. Totally. Have
you been on it recently? Yeah, I go every day.
Pretty dicey.
Really what's it like to people that live in no, London, where the underground is? Absolutely fine. Yeah. Where it's also absolutely fine. What's the experience of getting on the subway, like, at the
moment? Well, the thing with the subway is there's a hobo count, went up way my way high after the pandemic. And so the subway is a place where you have a trapped person like, you know, you've run into a guy on the sidewalk on Broadway and he's like, give me your money or I'll kill you, whatever. You're like, all right, just keep walking, but the subway, you're waiting for the train or you're on the train.
Rain. So I think hobos have been, like, I can get people there. The doors are closed. You know, you'd have to run up the stairs or wait, for the subway to stop. So, I think it started out as, like, the other on the subway and get money out of them, but now, it's kind of like, I will also fight you.
Why did the population increase? I think all the people
moved out or stayed indoors during the pandemic. So the homeless kind of got a little more Brazen and like we have the city to ourselves. What was that
award ceremony? Where there was tons of homeless people?
Was it the Golden Globes on the Oscars or something? And I have probably, they had to shift a ton of
yeah,
yeah, that we're living in there. There was like, a bunch of homeless people,
a lot of tent tent homes and stuff and they're there to
show my Lina is coming. Yeah, exactly. Your old girlfriend and then Nancy's gone through their phone. Exactly. Yeah, well there was that story about that guy who restrained a dude that was under warrant and arrest and all this stuff and now he's it's not looking too good for him. Yeah, I
went from hero to murderer.
Her in like one
second. Yeah, fuck brutal. That's not uncommon to see. Well, I mean, I'm sure that someone killing somebody on the restraining somebody to death is uncommon but like aggression and now not uncommon at all people getting pushed on
the tracks, just getting, I have friends who just got randomly punched in the head, you know, it's just, it's just crazy people out and about mingling with millions of New Yorkers. So, it's gonna be some tension,
it's riled the, especially, if you
Coming from the UK, where we have the underground tunnels that, you know, it's not as big as New York but it's not far off. Loads of tracks, everything's complex different layers. It's the same. It's the same system. Yeah, the tube. And it's lovely.
Yeah, great most pleasant experience. Yeah, borderline Pleasant. Now, this is this is like head on a swivel all the time. I
had a conversation with a friend couple of nights ago, and he was in, he lives in Tokyo and as he gets on a train, he was having to text me.
On WhatsApp in response to my conversation through his are pods because nobody speaks, you're not, you don't
want. Is that right? No one speaks. Wow, he
was so concerned, like there's some things where he was finding it. We were talking, he was laughing. So I could hear him stifling a laugh. Doing like a whisper laugh while oh, so because he didn't want to make any
noise. That's a little much. Yes. You know, I'd rather somewhere in the middle of the choking out and the texting, but I like that leads to a lot of repression to, like
my point.
You can be very civilized, yes, with the right culture, you're able to glitter all Behavior pretty well. So for people to say it's inevitable, if you've got a ton of people living in a city and they're all going to be underground, you know. Like they it's just it's par for the course when you expect them to do. We got well like behave in any way that the rest of the world does.
Yeah. Yeah, I know, I'd be nice but that's just not part of the culture and as much as we should on America and America's racist and full of hate and bigoted and gun-toting fat people which
Each there are, we're pretty considerate and pretty lenient with nut jobs, where in China, Japan. I feel like if some guys weren't tattered clothes and smells like shit going on, I'm gonna kill all of you. They'll just fucking knock that guy out. Put them in a sack. Tase him and throw him over the bridge. He's going to make your shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're that.
So, it's asking, make your shoes. There's this company called Nine line apparel and they just did the owner just found out.
About. They did a test on the fabric of a particular garment supplier and they were able to trace all of the garments back to we go workers. Whoa. Steena Paulson is supposed to be sustainably sourced but it's not enough. Wow, yeah, it's fucking crazy, dude. It's like millions of people may be strapped to literally tied to desks just sewing cheap. Unreal, fast, fashion stuff right now, 2023, right? And real, and no one cares. Don't.
Doing a thing about it, not one tweet. Meanwhile in America nobody wants to work because they're like, I need Healthcare. I need Dental, I need free coffee. I need snacks, I need vacation time. Like my wife, used to work at LinkedIn. I would go there. It was beautiful. I would hang out there. It was like, pillows everywhere and espresso machines and candy and a and like a, when he got ice cream booth you know, and you could just go and I'm like, this is the the chef's were making lunch every day. It was incredible.
Meanwhile bit about the uyghurs are tied to the dress with desk. Yeah, they got the fucking suicide. Net outside, the Apple company. Apple Factory know the South Park episode where common gets a job? No. Oh, it's phenomenal. It's from this newest season so but it's gets a job at an ice cream parlor and Commons jealous because he wants a job as well. But his his referral and say such okay like you can come and work but everyone's like did you do this? He's not going to last. Yeah, someone makes a bet that you won't last for two hours and
Five minutes into the shift, the boss comes over, and come and sat on his phone. And he says, what are you doing? He says, I'm taking a mental health break. Ha ha ha five minutes later. He says, oh, it's it's like take it easy, Tuesday. And then, I'm looking forward to walk out early, Wednesday, I could just bided by the end of it. He's ringing Butters from home, whilst he's taking a mental health, leave Day saying, you do know that we're running all of this money for the ruthless guy, that owns it. And we're the ones that are doing the work. We really should own that place here and there on the money man. Like
its
Those guys, they are there such Geniuses because they nail everything and are funny and they never do interviews or anything. So you don't really know how they think but they just they got it. They get it right every time shit on everybody. Yeah. It's beautiful. And no one fucks them because they're a
cartoon. Yeah. Well, unless they put a image of Muhammad up which that
that's true that. Yeah, that got ugly eight years ago something. Yeah, well that's a whole another, he's like the ultimate Karen Muhammad, you know, he's like, hey, how dare you? We're gonna shut this thing down.
Him. Oh yes true. But the his you know
lackeys. Yeah, that's a it was they did and Route 8 as well appears the last episode of South Park this season. So they started with Prince Harry
and retake beautiful. I mean, there's a wealth of Comedy out there now. It's so good. Megan Markle and you know dolezal. As I mentioned Trump, it's just
what's happening. We told you so she's on. Only
fans. You're kidding me. I'm a subscriber. Yeah. What do you know what she's doing?
You know, fingering tits, the whole thing. Fingering tits. Yeah. Well, she's going all-in. She's, you know, it's a fetish and, and I use her as gifts because it's not black, but it counts, you know, it's close
enough. So I saw this story about Prince Harry has lost a legal challenge over his bid to be allowed to make private payments for the police. His lawyers Wanted jurisdictional review of the rejection of his offer to pay for protection in the UK, a judge ruled, not to give the go-ahead home office laws, have opposed the idea.
Of allowing wealthy people to buy security from the police. So I wasn't really too sure about how I felt about
this. I don't know what is it? Can you translate that? So
Prince Harry no longer has his normal protection from being a royal because he lost his Royal status. He it seems has security concerns when he travels to the UK. So his plan was to just pay for police to come with him so that there would be a degree of protection but also so that it didn't chew into the
Lisa's budget for which our area of the country. He's got it. So you'll have seen it. The mothership there is like a low-key couple of cops that are on site. Sure. And that paid for privately but they're you know, official caught. I'm going to presume that they're not. They're probably off duty still sanctioned. Yeah. I think I don't really know how it works up until I'd seen that I've never really heard about anybody being able to pay for private police protection, but it actually makes a good bit of sense because if you don't,
If you don't allow somebody that's going to be heavily scrutinized and caused loads of, you know, go for amongst the public to actually have some protection, they're gonna have to go in any case today, crowd control so just let them pay, I get it. Yeah, that's what they said. No no they said no, I think there's a big a big problem especially in the UK of allowing like wealth in the UK is really really look down on especially ostentatious really? Yeah so if you were to say I'm going to use the money
That I've accrued to, by the usage of what is typically seen as a public service. It's one of the reasons why people in the UK forget that you can get Private health care because the NHS is there. So they would happily wait, six months for their cancer to metastasize. They can get their scan for free, right then. Think about paying for insurance. They'll pay for their dogs and Shirin English Bulldog. That'll be a hundred bucks a month or a couple hundred bucks a month. Yeah. But they won't think about doing it to themselves.
Interesting. And I think that the UK has a bit of a problem with people using wealth especially to sort of chew up services.
Wow. Well hey I mean you know this kind of feels like the the defund the police people who immediately call the police, right? When Anything Goes Down.
What's-his-face New York Coleman Hughes? Yeah. Like that guy. Yeah, he's great. He was on CNN a couple of nights ago and they were talking about why we got these increases in crime and homicides and editor and it got toward the end of the segment and comers. Like, I have an idea. Yeah. How does it? And he said, refund the police and
They cut the
segments after that,
we're gonna have to leave it there
Coleman. Thank you. See, that's what bugs me not to spin off and another thing, but that's what bugs me about the times were living in. Is I don't, you know, I get there, we can have certain opinions, but we should at least be able to discuss everything. Like, I know that's a different differentiating opinion than CNN. You know, they have to go with The Narrative of have to go with the check boxes but let's hear him out, you know, like like you bring up drag queens and I do
Of
a shit about drag queens. I don't have kids, it doesn't affect me, but just bring it up. My friend was like, oh dude, let's not even go there and I'm like, why not? That's the we're determined no on a podcast but that's why it weirds me out like so we can't talk about it. The not be able to talk about it. To me is weirder than the actual activity and that's what knowing is understanding in other. Like, oh, you got a problem with drag queens? Are you like drag queens? I'm like, no, no I'm neutral but I'd like to discuss it and see if we can get somewhere situation. It's an interesting situation but then they're like shut.
Sit down. Shut it down or cut that out. I'm like now that's the scary part. The cut that out. What do you so scared of what is that feeling like? Oh this is, this is bad. We're in the red. Shut it down abort. I'm like, that's what worries
me which because nobody is not allowed to have an opinion on everything anymore. Everybody has to have an opinion, right? And absolutely everything and and I just want to learn. I'm an idiot. So I want to learn more but they deserve like trans is a big one. I so what's up with Trey, if this is that the one that's up with that and you go up up
Up up up and you're like, well, now now I'm really interested. It's kind of when I was a kid, I was I was an atheist and you know, you go. So wait If Heaven is real and having his Blissful eternity then are you old in heaven? Because that wouldn't be Blissful. I'd rather be young also is my grandma in there and is she older she and you start asking them to go huh. Shut the fuck up you? How dare you you know it talking the name of God and all this shit you know, the lord's name in vain and your
Like oh you have no answer and I feel like that's the same with all this stuff and I just want to learn. I'm not trashing Heaven. I'd love to go to heaven but I want to get to the bottom of it and they get they start getting angry. And that's what worries me. My
friends. Got this theory of bespoke, bullshit. Many people don't have an opinion until they're asked for it, at which point they Cobble together, a Viewpoint from women half-remembered hearsay before deciding that this two-minute old, makeshift opinion, will be then you he'll to
die. That's fucking perfect. Who is this guy? Yeah, it's the same dude. Old
Is on fire, when the Bogle? Yeah, I wrote this phenomenal article and so he's like I force this guy on to the show, probably every three or four months or so. And he's basically a digital ghost apart from tweeting aphorisms like that and writing awesome sub stacks. And I just like drag him, Kicking and Screaming. Yeah, Place him on a podcast and then he scurries away and learn some good shit. And then I drag him back and bring back on
again. Here's the question. Why does he have to be a digital ghost? Because he's doesn't want all the backlash in the bullshit, but like, we're just
trying to learn. It does seem that way.
The the the fact that everybody feels like, they need to have an opinion and everything means that you remember the silence is
violence. Oh that was a good one.
Silence is compliance. Yeah. Thing is like, well if you're, if you're pushing people to take a particular position and you can only allow them to either before or against the thing you're going to lose all of the interesting stuff. Yeah, we'll just going to out of having conversation completely, they're not going to bother.
And it's only sales is violence. If you don't if you're not saying my
You know, like it's like when people do we need more diversity and you're like, what do you mean? Like you need more people look like me like, oh, you want you want to be on the show, you know, you know, you're not thinking about the Pacific Islander, you know, the wheelchair guy, your think about you. So I get that. We're all selfish at the end of the day, but you get to be selfish and mask it with this guy's of of moral superiority, it's pretty obvious. The performative
empathy thing is one of the reasons why I think everyone I do think it contributes, the cynicism.
Because it's so hard to work out whether it's someone's being genuine or not. Yes, yes. Is this person actually doing the thing that they say that they do because they care?
Yes.
Or are they doing it? Because they know that it's an effective current social Trend to ride off the back
of exactly. Exactly. And you can see which way the winds blowing and most people I think just go, I'll go that way because I don't want to deal with the getting yelled at and backlash and he'll a member. What is
it?
Hmm. Only ten percent of Americans, have a Twitter account, so, 90% of Americans don't have a Twitter account. Wow. Which means that, you know, and I think on Twitter, it's around about 95% of tweets a created by less than 20 or 10 percent of the users. Hmm. So even there is a small cohort of people from the world who are on Twitter and within the people that are on Twitter, there is a small cohort of them. Yeah, use almost all of the content, right? So the
Majority opinion that you see is actually unbelievably, and representative, they incredibly small and biased, yes. All of the people that tweet a lot. You know, there will be something in common that everybody has when it's like you see someone poster something - or there's a flood of negative comments and you got wonder what all of those people have gone in common because they will, they'll be some things. Some elements of Personality. They are contribute to have that. Be the cuddly. A representative sample? No, no. But
they swarm, they'll swarm on you, and it
Feels like a million people, Jonathan haidt called it death by little needles, you know just like you know one one needle prick you're like that was weird but a million of them coming at you that hurts.
John hide stains some interesting stuff. You seen the he's writing his entire book publicly at the moment, what does that mean? So he's got I think it's maybe a sub stack of some of this sort of mailing list and he's got this book that's going to be out at some point in the future. And each maybe few pages are each chapter as he writes them. He's just
Pushing as he goes, that's pretty good. That he's getting feedback in the comments, and then presumably will be making adjustments before final book
comedy. It's like stand up. Yes. Wow, he's doing a live act and then editing. Yes, based on reaction. You did a special. I did want to add comes out, July 25th on Netflix and they, let me say everything. They, I mean, I really go hard and I was shocked at no notes. So I think maybe things are changed or maybe Netflix wants because any press is good. Press
Yes. So when you mean notes it was you were able to submit it and they didn't say we can't have that joke
and take me to the r word out all that not Holocaust trans. It's all in there and everything's a joke. Everything gets a laugh but it's it's all the all the hot button topics.
I have Schultz this question. Do you think that there's any joke? That is so extreme that it shouldn't be told,
I don't but
I'm a comedian who likes fucked up jokes.
He said is it funny?
That's I completely
agree and I was like yeah yeah and I I'm sorry I would apparently ID matters
funny is if it's funny it's a stand-up comedy show at the end of the day even if someone has a non offensive joke that isn't funny, I say get rid of it, it doesn't matter if it's offensive or edgy or whatever, or not edgy, get rid of it either way. If it's not getting a laugh. Funny is a, you know what?
That Oscar Wilde. If we going to tell the truth, you better be funny or they'll kill you. And I think that's so true and I would say the same for these people who are their whole act as like I was molested. I was the victim of racism and you're like that's easy. Anybody getting molested or be a victim of racism. That's easy. What what did the hard part is to get in the laughs? Anybody get molested that's not an accomplishment. You know. It sucks but we got to get the the haha is in there. That's what Sam company. That's why.
It's an art form and that's why it's fun. It's the whole point.
Yeah, I was using this example, did you say true Jodi? Do you know who that is?
I've heard of them, but I don't
know. YouTube guy from the UK and he just podcast big guy. Tough guy talk to ya and he's from the city where I used to live, I know.
Hey, DJ Paul.
Hey, it's Jake p.s. I think not massive found a chick pole. He told a joke, him and rotated had a running for quite a long time and
I asked on a livestream forever ago. What do you think about Andrew Tate's? Recent conversion to Islam? Hmm. And Bryant rajadi said, he should prove it to us. All by blowing himself up.
That's a good line. That's a good joke. Yeah,
still legitimate Joe and Andrew said the same. He was like, it was obvious misdirect. He was playing off tropes like this, just it's classic Jurassic. Yeah, and he got within 24 hours. My
Dropped him, Jim shark. Dropped him PokerStars dropped him and he was banned on Twitch.
Wow. Only four hours. See that's that's horrible. And what annoys me about when people are like, he's got money, he'll be fine. Shut up, he's fine. You're like he lost all that. That sucks. That's over a joke. So when they say like, oh, shut up with your complaining. You can't. Oh comics can't say anything. Look, I still say everything I want, but this guy said, one quick thing about a guy who's pretty well hated. And he still got in trouble. Yeah.
That sucks. I hate the whole he'll be fine because you're like, Okay, so let's say you call Michael Jordan, the n-word at a game. He's a millionaire Bubba. He went to work the next day, he's fine. So that that doesn't matter you it still should matter. I don't get why calling someone a bigot and then calling someone. The n-word is is not the same. Well, the the problem that you have, especially if you look at, I don't know.
Someone's quality of life, based on how much money, they're able to earn or how much money they've got in the bank account, completely disregards. The fact that status is so important to the way that we feel about ourselves. Yes. Yeah. If you have this massive downfall. Yeah. Everybody hates you. And there's all of this bad stuff and, you know, if someone's righteously indignant about the joke that you made against their religion, or their race, or their disability, or their advertising campaign, or whatever, they're going to be unhappy, but like that person is going to suffer a lot.
A lot, you have to be really, really fucking hard nose to go through a massive downfall. Totally, what was it the Rogan said, like, the way that he dealt with his little, his thing a couple of years ago was like a moderate dose of mushrooms, pretty much every single day. Yeah, that was one of the framework like training a lot and I did it ice bath in my diet was clean and I took a lot of mushrooms. Yeah. And you think well I don't know man. Like
that's a lot of stuff. Just yeah the day
precisely from somebody that's got an awfully long way to fall. Yeah. Like a crude
Good bit of status and Goodwill below them. And still, there's all of these things that you need to do. Oh, he'll be fine. Well, yeah, the daily psychedelics and the exactly training suggests that it's not just, the sort of thing that you can write get
through II. Think it's horrible. I think calling someone a tranny is mean that hurts their feelings. I get it. It's funny. But I get it when they're like, hey, we got to stop saying that word and I think the same goes for people who just call everybody racist, or bigoted, or a transfer.
Or whatever when they're not, you know? Like if I, if I kiss you that doesn't make me gay. I just did a gay thing for a second. And if I make a racist joke or say a bad word, I don't mean that thing I just did it for a second. You see what I'm saying? And that's what bugs me at. What
point you become gay. I
think when you're attracted to men, but
how many gay things you have to do before you become gay?
I think it's all help here. It's like being a woman identity. You identify suck. A dick can be straight. Yeah, because it's sucking.
It is a just a physical act act but actually wanting to suck a dick that's when you're gay. Interesting. Yeah so low you can blow me right now and I won't call you gay. I promise that mustache. So when a jizz all over it,
I've been trying to sort of really Channel. My 1970s Miami cop, it looks good, I'm good. Yeah,
fuck. Yeah, I'd sit on that. I'm a,
I'm a Rangers Fan. I'm a Texas Rangers fun now. No, nice ball. What do I
Need to know over what like about American sport. What did the the skills that I need to be able to watch American sport? Well, what do you mean a
skills? Well, it'll be fair. They got to be
drunk. Yep, these things. Yeah. Is that, what should I say? I haven't been to a baseball game, I moved here. What should I
expect? Get a cold beer. You gotta learn the Hey Batter, Batter Batter, and then there's also the whole culture of like thrashing. The guy from the stands. Like you call that a throw, what? I've seen better throws on a pillow or whatever on a rug, you know, and that's all fun and games and then maybe catch a fly ball.
All that's big. Then you gotta give it to the retarded cancer. Kid with the bald head. So this all kinds of tropes. It's fun. It's fun to go out in the sun. Take your shirt off, live it up man. It's the American Pastime. Fuck yeah, I'm bringing sunflower seed. I
needed I decided that I needed a needed something and he did a sport and a team that I could follow in Texas Rangers owned by what were the reason we wanted a place, that had a nice Stadium Place that wasn't more than three hours away. Place, it was owned by racists and it turns out that George George Bush.
Push that the bush family's Javelin invested in the brand new stadium for the
Rangers. I love it. So we got all three. Oh, you're gonna have a blast? I went to, when I went to Australia, one time, I went to hell even know the name of the sport quick. It quit it
Wicked. That was the thing. Was it Cricket be? Go careful here. This is the sport of my childhood. No, no, I wasn't quick as I know
Cricket. That's got the paddle. Yeah, this was more of a soccer e rugby, kind of thing. Oh,
Aussie Rules Football,
maybe that was it. Yeah, and it was amazing. Yeah, what do the big Stadium? The whole play. Oh I am, it was
red hot.
Have you seen hurling? It be seen that the Irish sport know. So you've seen the cross. Yes, with the Nets, the Nets and the thing, and they like, run like that. Yeah, so imagine that. But instead of it being a net and a little ball, it's a wooden like a big hockey stick. They run, sort of balancing the ball on the hockey stick, but it means that they can swing this thing, unbelievably hard. None of the players have got any teeth. It's like, wow, whoa, It's kind of the same as ice hockey without the ice or the
Skating.
Wow. Absolutely ruthless.
You have to balance it while running a.
So they do this. It's fucking crazy man. Hurling look at and they're gonna hit you with the stick and they swing through a lot of the time. Oh, my
Lord. No helmet. Can't
remember. I feel like the goal. He's got a helmet but not them. Wow, then there's Gaelic football. If you've seen that which is literally like halfway between rugby and football, so they have the rugby stands with the the thing. Yeah. And the bottom bed is, got a net and gonna go lie in it. Well, they got it.
And scoring that you can get it over the top and there's other bits and pieces, they're Global player in Austin.
I love it. Well what about UFC that's to me, that's my favorite.
Is that what you're spending a lot of time watching at the
moment? That's my number one. I like a one-on-one like I like tennis to I like one-on-one. I like the mental part of it. I like the different. Like this fighter is better than this fighter but he can still beat him because of the style differences. You know, I love that kind of stuff and I love learning. You know, Nate Diaz is a character Conor McGregor's a character style. Bender
Are you get to know them whereas football is just a bunch of nameless, faceless helmets and I like that where you can kind of get to know if it's more like stand up, I went to Columbia at the start of the year to get stem cells. So I spent a full week in Medellin and mile in clinic like patient, partner was Al Jermaine Sterling. Whoa, I got spend a full week with him. What's he like fucking cool dude? Yeah. Re just like a chill. Not like it's a compliment but unbelievably normal. Yeah.
But incredibly normal. And I get the sense that if I'd spent the week with sugar, Sean would have been less normal with Conor McGregor, would have been less normal but there are, you know, this is, you know, getting toward being super, super dominant within, what's the three-time defending champ now? Yeah. Something like that. 135 belt. Yeah, and next fight is going to be against sugar, Sean. So yeah, he was really really normal. Super nice guy. Texted. His team on the night. They had the fight and wished him. Good luck. And
Stuff. And that's fucking cool man. What they're doing? I'm havin as in the UFC partnered with WWE.
Is that right? I
hope I'm not pretty. I'm absolutely certain, WWE UFC, I promise you that. I'm going to bring this up, I hope it doesn't get to rest Lee, he where are we? The yeah, the WWE UFC
merger.
Whoa, yeah, this is a month old now. World Wrestling Entertainment WrestleMania. Is the biggest event to deter on April 2nd? The second, a WrestleMania, CNBC, broke the news that the
Ew, he's to be sold to Hollywood talent agency, and David group, Holdings Endeavor, which also owns the UFC is to merge. The two iconic complementary, Global sports, and entertainment Brands to form a new 21 Billion Dollar, Plus live sports and
entertainment. No, they took the money. Dana White, you cock. God damn it. I hope there's not a I don't want to see. Just engaging it hit with a folding chair. Ha ha ha. Are we gonna take?
Take this up there. Don't mesh too much.
Bring The Dudley Boyz back. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. What
is it? The Royal Rumble but in the
Octagon right now, Rogan's gonna have to be a, the new slim jim guy. Oh yeah. Oh boy.
Yeah. Funny man. I don't know. I feel like everything kind of descends towards WWE. Well, it's interesting because WWE basically what they did was they realized if we got rid of the sport element of the sport and we tried to create all of
The drama as effectively as possible. What would we end up zeroing in on? So they've split tested the same way that you have with jokes for forever. Yeah, they've split tested what makes a compelling character and a narrative and rivalry are story. Yes. So when people say this is becoming like WWE, what they mean is this is descending more into Showmanship it. What's happened is WWE has captured the most effective.
Way to create rivalry and Intrigue and storyline in
sport. Yeah, and I mean, completely 100%, I mean, it's as old as time. Good guy, bad guy, fitteth, Battle of the strongest winds. And then you get the, we hate you, more your the heel? Yep. And you play it up. It's it's it's nothing new but it
works. But that's Jake Pole, right? Check polls. You know, professionalized the heel. Yeah. Someone fucking said about that when there was talk about before Andrew take was under house arrest. There was talk about Jake Paul those in Andrew take
Fight. And you think who's the bad guy?
Ha ha ha. All right, who's supposed to be the bad guy in this fight? Well, I don't take it one step further, this Jake Paul and your day, but there's also a OC and Marjorie Taylor green. That's also
WWE. Did you see the image? The a I own the funds and hot enhanced image of AOC?
No, please lay it on me. I'm gonna get hard. I'm wearing a bathing suit here, dude. It's
so fucking good attack. He's very attractive.
I texted this to Rogan a couple of weeks ago,
Oh, come on. Yeah. That's, that's nothing to sneeze
at, and it's really hot. The caption above it says, will you give me your guns now? And the weight is you give me your guns, I'll give you these
cannons.
Let's hope the top-rated comment was, what was it? This is an attack quick objectifying, the people who are helping to make our country and the place it needs to be the right and right, the wrongs of the past and give way for the future as I
He nearly killed my erection that. Good try.
Oh man. But that's the other thing is a talk to Schultz about this. I think when the Miller Lite ad came out, he's like, look, I get it. Women started Brewing first, but can't we just have fun. Can't we just enjoy beer? That's the real problem with the ads. It's not like, I don't think a lot of people like fuck women. Put them in bikinis at. It's just like I'm just getting lectured here about a fucking poison that I want to drink to forget about my job. You know. Well it's I
think one of the main problems people have is they just seemed like such
Each humorless pranks. Yes. Yes, exactly not Charming. No. Tommy it for the people that haven't seen, especially the British people haven't seen this Miller Lite add. It was basically snuck in under the radar at the same time as the Dylan Mulvaney thing and I think it the lady that's presenting it is maybe an LGBT person to. Yeah. And she's walking through a museum and saying women, brewed beer and how did we reward them? We were awarded them by putting them in bikinis and it cuts to a 1990s, add of two girls mud.
Yeah, the street and it's like e by Miller Lite and you're in a girl's mud wrestling or whatever, which is true, because the treatment like probably are. Yeah, into that sort of stuff. And then the ladies castigating anybody, that thinks that school and it's like we're committed to changing. The any just think, I think a lot of things. First off, I think. How fucking tone-deaf do you need to be about your own audience? Yeah. How fucking confident? Do you need to be in your share price? In your sales figures move? Oh, yeah. And
How little fun are you?
Exactly. So humilis. I know, like, why can't progressiveness and inclusiveness be fun to like what also have to be this guy. But what's so bad about bikinis like aren't all these women on only fans very empowering. You know, I thought that was empowering like, hey, we're taking our sexuality back. We we make money on it. We do what we want. That's empowering, I'm allowed to
objectify myself, but you're not allowed to objectify
me, I guess, but it's not like we tase the woman and knocked her out and put her
Burlap sack and then said, you're in this bikini commercial or will kill you, you know? She'd, I'm sure thousands of women auditioned and we're like, I got it. I got the Miller Lite. Head with the twin.
Well, do you remember Diet Coke that? Yes, that's good. All of the women structure? Looking out over that. No,
God, I'm lucky. I complain about that. I'm
looking forward to becoming skinny fat in middle age and being able to point at that and say, that was what caused me to he's had games. I was objectified, I didn't want to be seen as a sex object. Yeah.
Not just a piece of meat.
It's so funny how bad I want to be objectified. I would love a woman objectify me, but I guess it's a supply and demand. They get it so much that they're, like, I'm annoyed.
I've got no objectification left to give Marc. I'm
afraid, that's no more. Yeah,
it's it's so fucking weird, man. I just, I really hope that we're around the corner from something that's going to be different in terms of like cultural memes. Can I'm kind of exhausted of it as
well. I think, well, I think a lot of people are and I think
It's almost like a fever breaking like these Bud, Light Miller Lite, and to Starbucks. And the Starbucks thing, the Starbucks is it's pretty great. It's an old Indian guy, and he gets a call from his son, so the sun pops up on the screen and he's like, damn and then in comes his new daughter so that the sun transitioned. So the daughter comes in and he's like he's all Angry in the moms like, come on, be nice. And he's like, you know what, you're right. Let's get a coffee and that's the ad.
So he's accepted as trans daughter.
They bond over going to Starbucks.
Yes, exactly. But it's just so forced, and I think it's great that. He's accepting a strands are that's great, and it's all for the love and everything. I wanted me to get
along a candy and mine is accepting his fate ya. And ya can't run store to
exactly. I took then go and shamelessly
shill a multibillion-dollar. Yes, Enterprise.
Exactly. And my joke was he's I think he's really mad because his brother did the operation you know, the Indians.
Doctor. But yeah, I just think it just feels forced and again, why can't it be a funny ad? Like if it's cool with trans person a person transitioning but like, make it fun. Why does it have to be so somber and and
educational to the Miller Lite? The Bud, Light thing, the releasing a saw. This earlier on Bud, Light is set to launch a line of camouflage aluminium bottles that promote the folds of Honor program which provides educational scholarships for
Eliza fallen and disabled and mellichamp American military, service members and First Responders, the New York Post respond reported. So basically, there is just this permanent flip-flop between the two. Now the Bud, Light thing, the relatively very unpopular opinion for me to say
I feel bad for Bud Light because that was evidently a small influencer campaign. Mmm, that's some portion. But some advertising, exact somewhere, that's not in no position, but isn't the fucking owner, right? And isn't the shareholders, and isn't that all of the people that do most of the things, some small portion that didn't have sufficient oversight, decided that they were just going to Chuck this set of cans to Dylan weld a knee. Yeah, not realizing how badly was going to go down and now,
Up the tube. Huge big dick, marketing execs have been fired. This has been halted and now they're trying to do all of this back tracking stuff. So even within that and I don't think that Dill Mulvaney is going to tap into the core demographic of but like yours even within that, what you see is the desire for people on both sides of the fence to become offended like
immediately, yes you want to have this
knee-jerk reaction to be able to go see see this.
Fucking woke washing. These cooked fucking leftist organizer there. Yeah. They took our beer, exactly took everything and I don't deny that. It's a fucking shitty idea. It's a shitty advertising campaign, that doesn't Target the right people and I don't think that they'll Mulvaney should have been used. But I do also think that going, does this represent about how long's but like being around probably fucking forever. Right? Is this really? Oh it finally here's the mask off. That shows us that they were the
America hating leftist cook CCP sympathizing bastards that we thought of all along. Well you say that if somebody says one accidentally slightly, or no untoward racist thing, that that doesn't color their entire history, but you're not necessarily prepared to give the
same. That's good, that's good. Great. Freedom to the other side. Great car great calls. So you're saying to the, to the people angry about the new Trans guy or translated being the sponsor, you can't just
It all on one commercial. Yeah I completely agree and if you like Bud Light just keep drinking it but let's a good bill. It's a good beer and it's very popular. What was it? They had
the Bud. Light has reportedly told wholesalers that it will buy back and sold cases of beer that app. Ask there are expiration date. 23% down your on your sales last week. Wow. And they're doing camouflage print in an effort to boost sales.
Ales, the doing all sorts of stuff. So that I mean, fuck. Do you? Can you imagine being at know, the CEO or the chief MD or whatever of Bud Light and waking up one morning and going, like, looking at your phone being like, so we're trending are brilliant.
But yeah, what for yeah. It's not brilliant. Sir. Right. Right. But what about the whole any press is good? Press is that just is that a myth? Because this is the most pressing get. It's all we're talking about, it's all any. I mean any comedy club is someone's ringing a Bud Light. It's
It's boom, right to you joke. Joke joke. Yep.
How can this not be good? Is Bud Light. Know something we don't know and then every other beer company and Starbucks and all these other Dove are doing it. So is there something we're missing or is
this just a huge fuck up? I think it's a fuckup. Okay, so I have a friend who has spent a lot of time doing e-commerce and they've split tested, bigger girls and they've split tested girls that are fit and he told me, we have all of the data bigger girls. Don't sell clothes. Yeah, so when you look at Victoria's Secret someone that's trying to
Undo the sis heteronormative patriarchal misogynistic presuppositions of what a woman's body shape is supposed to be like they are paying a price with their top line and the bottom line and eventually some shareholders somewhere that owns fucking 15% of the company is going to look at a report and say, what's going on here? Yes. And you know, I know so it's this, you see it is really cool, social movement that were a part of at the moment. It's like it's real, it's super Progressive.
Yeah, it's very good enough for the the Jen said, 15 to 18 sort of left early and he's going to say, get fucked was put the girls that sell clothes? Yeah, what's funny. So there is some critics it like get what? Go broke. I have a friend. That's done. A shit ton of analysis on this and the Gillette ad from a few years ago, didn't didn't impact long-term didn't impact the positioning and a couple of others, I'd love him to run the stats back on these and see what happens longer term. I think really huge.
Brands like a Bud Light or a Nike Nike with Colin. Kaepernick tons of people took offense to that campaign.
So we're like he's yeah where I wear them every single day. Yeah, first off, when it's a product, if the product is good you kind of don't care. I don't care. And secondly, if it's a big enough brand over a long enough period of time, people, forget true, you know? But like it may take them, it may take them five years, probably won't, but it may take them five years to get themselves back and we realized that we made some mistakes with this thing and at the data and they'll be back selling this unit soon enough. And of
course, of course it's a it's a fun blip.
In the whole thing, we get to trash it, make fun of it, but I do appreciate the swing. They took a swing, they seemed like they were the first one to try it and it was a big swing and it fucked up, but sometimes you gotta try a crazy idea and supplies it fuck's up like, like, got milk, got milk was Hugh. What's got milk, got milk. Was his head milk was just going down in America. Everybody hated milk. It's just people turned on it. Got milk was his one ad where a guys, eating a peanut butter sandwich, and it's all closed up and he's watching a movie and he's like, hmm.
Mmm and the phone rings and he's like oh hello and it's like you've won the million dollar prize, just got his answer. This one question and that whatever the question was was about dinosaurs and they show his wall and is full of dinosaur poster. He knows everything about Diane's, got dioramas and all this shit, and he's like, remember whore, hurry and I like we can't understand you, you lost, and then it goes, got milk, like a milk, glass of milk would have gotten the food down, right? He's huge, ad campaign peel a t-shirts, got milk just billboard. Say, got milk.
Milk skyrocketed and went through the roof and it changed everything. Milk stocks have never been higher, huge milk stocks. So I think Bud, Light was like it's so crazy. It might just work. Mmm, so I think you take a shot every now and then that's kind of fun.
Yeah, I don't know, man. Again, with the delivery, let's say that they and this would be an interesting question to ask, you know, the most Ardent, like, Matt Walsh. I'd love to ask Matt Walsh. Hey, Matt, how did have been funny or entertaining? Yeah. What would you have thought? Hmm.
Like, would it have been because we said, is there a joke? That's so offensive that it should never be told if it's funny. No, I agree. Right? So, if an advert is entertaining and good, should it have not been put out your? Well, there's probably some limits because it kind of creates a role model, you know, talking about kids and positioning and shit like that. But to what 21 plus in this country, pretty much every state in order to be able to drink. So I don't know. It had it have been, had it been entertaining but he was just, yeah, I wondered, I wanted to find this out.
You imagine how much you could sell a Della Mulvaney can of Bud Light for, because it was only six pack of them that was ever created. If she started huge money.
Yeah, crazy. That's like their monkey nft. You know, that's getting silly. You board a yeah, he born ape. But Dylan. Yeah, but I do think there is they were tapping into something the right way. I think there's controversy can lead to huge numbers and huge sales lectrons controversy. When you were a bigger brand, I guess not, but like little
Ex you know, that guy look good. Yeah, he's not gay. I heard. So I don't get, he's not gay. It's just all adding onto his
brand. This is little
nice Axe, and a lot of people hate him because he's gay. He's a devil guy, he's against conservative values. Christian values,
little no sex came out as gay being the only artist to do. So whilst having a number one record, but you're saying
I'm saying that was a branding move, very
smart marketing, very smart little, nozick's came out as gay.
On the last day of pride month whilst he was number one. That seems
feels very calculated.
Wellness exercise. Music industry wants lgbtq+ artists to be gay without being gay.
It's pretty good. No, I was just what I heard. I'm not saying this to be more gay, prove it. Yeah blow me
itself in here. Yeah I saw him I saw him performance Austin City Limits oh wow last year like that's one of those things you know when you see you've been a see a ton of bands and
The the shows are between 1000 and 2000 and it's like about it's like a normal band, right? And then you go and see a performance like a little. Now sex thing and the guys sprinting off stage to do fucking costume changes, shit in between songs and it's all choreographed and dance numbers and then he comes out and he's on a harness and he's flying through the air and there's a helicopter and like all sorts of stuff. You got. Oh, okay, this is different. Yes, I can. Yeah, this is something else. This is no longer a musical exact condition. This is a fucking like this performance
art.
Right. Right? And I think, I think which genes about him is Bud Light. You have to go, but by Bud Light, and people see you drinking at a bar. Nobody makes fun of you. This you can put in your iPod and your earphones and you still sell the song but you don't have to be seen within a public Brandon. Yeah. Did you see
when Harry Potter first came out? And it was super popular and people hadn't read it but adults didn't want to be seen in public reading. A children's book,
they released I do
Covers of Harry Potter so that it looked less
children in yes.
So I wonder whether people are going to get koozies that
ha ha ha ha over there. Bud Light. Yeah. Is Corona. Yeah. Well, they should do this for kiddie porn. Just put a an adult woman on the cover and then, there you go. All right. That's my last kiddie porn pedophile joke because it's getting a little
weird. I asked an ethicist to pull an ethicist whether or not
Illustrated like anime or Manga child porn is unethical manga, you know, like you like anime. Okay Manga and Anime like hentai right? I got you can't I guess it would be called whether that's an ethical because let's say that you're able to reduce real-world harm by having illustrations. Nobody's been hurt with the illustration just grabs the illustrator
interesting, and you're getting it out a little bit, late off the Touch of kid because you're getting it out at home
Real Worlds.
Concerns have been a real damage. Has been reduced for those it's a
pedophile methadone.
Well, here's to buy is a is a child sex. Robot unethical.
Yeah. Yeah, that is tough but I think this you could say this for Woody Allen like aside from the touching his daughters accusations. He married his adopted kid right soon-yi, and obviously, that's weird but they're still married, they love each other.
Is it wrong?
Fucking crazy months. I learned about why we have incest a version at Ryan long was going to try. And do he texted me about? Like he'd listen to the episode Drive spoke about his. Like, we don't try and work this into a into a asset is like, dude, if you manage to get this concept into a set, I'll be very fucking impressed. Yeah so the reason that your brothers and sisters older brother. Okay cool. So the reason that you don't want to fuck, your brother is something called the westermarck effect. So between the ages of about two and I think it's
Twelve, there is a window of time and if you are around another young child, who you see, interacting with your parents, in particular, kinds of ways. There is a bucket in your mind that that individual goes into. That means that you're going to be sexually repulsed by them. Hmm. Now, the reason that this is interesting is you can imagine a scenario in which twins maybe or brother and sister are separated at Birth are separated perhaps in early childhood and then come together.
Run and they can find it. They've got loads in common. Well, cause you do you share maybe 50% 25% of your genetics together so they go apart and then they come back and you go you know how disgusting is it a terrible? Is it for brother and sister to have sex? You looked pretty bad? Yeah. Going to procreate it's pretty bad but the reason that you have an aversion to it that's got nothing to do with your genetics. It's everything to do with this westermarck window and the same thing happens interesting with father's. So if you have an absentee father
You know, a lot of single mother households and stuff where kids grow up in Father leaves comes back into the daughter's life, perhaps at 16, for whatever reason and maybe some daddy issues might contribute to it. But then generally you did, there is a lack of incest version that goes on there for
all
father that comes back in. Whoa abandonment. Finally being accepted by a man, a man that I have a lot in common with cause you do you know he's literally 50% of Eugene's whoa.
Yeah, pretty fucking crazy. So the threats the mark window is a key period and you can also have another way adopted siblings who are not genetically related. Can find massive incest aversion to each other but given do yep because they didn't wind up window together. Yeah. Wow. How
cool. That's super cool. And I'm lucky because my family is not attractive so that helps but wow that is thank God for that that that's a good advertisement for for the
nuclear family.
Family keeping the family together to make sure that you keep your brothers and sisters apart.
Yeah, yes, clip it fuck, yeah, that's a great
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with devil liking the
devil also made some like Satanist, okay, okay. The pony also sells apparel that includes satanic imagery including pentagrams horn schools and references to the devil. So here's a here's the thing. Did you see was it some Smith? He performed as like a big black blob kind of thing? Yeah, white guy. But big, big black
blob. Oh yeah. He was wearing a black, yeah, inflatable gonna do
so he
He made he came out and he was like there was a devil horns and whatever, whatever and a bunch of people, especially so Christian commentators. When I go, you see it's this yes thing and I get it but it does seem like the more conspiratorial elements of of America. I don't think that it's great to have a devil up on stage, but I don't know to me, there's no more existential difference between that and it being Mickey Mouse or it being you know, like for anything else. It's just
wine. It's all fake. Yeah, yeah.
I don't believe in the devil either know. But
like if you had Santa Claus up on stage, it's what you represent. It's like well,
but the difference is the devil's equated with
evil. Yeah. Okay. So Santa's not tickles like ya know, like we had the sandals if someone went up in there. Right. Right. Right. I'm Darth Vader. Yeah, I don't know, it's just it's the moral Panic to some regard over like satanic imagery. I don't know my position on. Yeah. I might come back we'll come around to it in a couple of years time and say, actually, you know, fuck, do you? She would kind of this it?
Turning all of the kids into
Satanist, right? Well, it's funny what imagery you're allowed to have and like somebody I camera, who some can we had a great bit about how? I was a kid, you could dress up as a pirate and Pirates are rapists and thieves and pieces of shit like drunkards and they would steal your boat and tillich. Take your money and your women alleging. Yeah. But like if you dress it was a Nazi you're a piece of shit. But like they're both
evil Pirates are one of the few
fancy dress categories that as of yet the consolation hammock
hasn't. Yeah, that's true. I think. Is it doesn't? It'll take for them to accept. I don't know what eye patch or I do. It's all these like, like Captain Phillips. You ever see that movie? Yes. Yeah, those are pirate. Those are the
modern-day Pirates. Yeah. If you dressed your son up as a Somali.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But it's just weird how like Tony Soprano. Is like this praised guy. He's a cool guy but he's a fucking sociopathic murderer. Yes.
You know, but we pick and choose like, well, he had a family and he was funny and likeable, but he was a
murderer, but that's the thing. If you're able to be charming and funny and entertaining with it, people will allow so
much. Oh, yeah. Like Barack Obama. I don't like, I don't think about politics, but all I hear is he killed millions of people and all these innocent families and he bombed them, but he's cool as shit. And good looking good, good speaker fun.
Recently narrated a series on Netflix about nature. I think today, yeah, nature shirt,
I don't give a fuck.
Work that he did all those things. I mean it's horrible, I guess but I you know out of sight out of mind.
Well wasn't that the same Bill Clinton's widely regarded as one of the most Charming people thats ever, totally sir. Throatily anybody that's ever met him in person. Felt like they were the only one in the room. Yes. Yes. All of these stories millions of stories, right? That I've heard about this and you go can see can see why he managed to get through all of the different scandals and all the rest of it. So yeah, there's a
charm. I guess goes a long way. It's like Samuel eject. Its one Charming mother.
Can pig Pulp Fiction. But yeah, like he's like, I don't dig on swine because it's the same reason, we don't need dogs. They're Charming. But we'd pigs because they're gross and
ugly. Didn't you once say that Shawn is makeup for men.
Yes. Wow. Good memory. Well done. What do you mean? Well, I mean like like, you know when you have said like a one-night stand most guys, typically want the lady to get out of there because we don't want to be Charming again. It's a lot of work being Charming is exhausting, so like you just want to be done with it and I think women
Feel the same way. We're like, hey, you want to come over and they're like, I'm not wearing makeup. I don't want to put it on and put on an outfit. I'm in my pajamas here, so that's our, our makeup Charming confidence. I'm not confident, but I gotta fake it on a date.
You've got to put the effort in.
Ya got a ramp it up beforehand. Exactly. So when guys like I need this girl out of my apartment, it's just because we're, I need a minute, I need a break to be myself. Yes, a
fought and pick my feet and
yeah my wife love her to death. But when we started,
Dating, I would go on the road and I would come back and you don't be a six-hour flight and she's like, come over and I'm like I would lie and say my flight was later. Just to buy me a couple hours at the house where I could just fart, shithead, be a shithead and take a dump and watch a couple of minutes of YouTube and all that. Wow, yeah. And she's like, you don't like me. She took a person like, no, it's not even about you. It's just me. I got to be a piece of shit so it should
decrepid.
Awful hateful creature. Yeah,
you need you don't want to see me. Like what I'm like,
This right girls. It's like
they got the kiwis On The Rise, whatever you do. Don't look at me. Don't ya? I've got my makeup. Exactly. That's our
version. Yes, very fucking good. Mark Normand ladies and gentlemen, what have you got coming up next people in Australia? Can they buy
tickets? Buy tickets were adding shows like crazy. I go, I don't know, when this comes out, it'll be out in a week. Okay, great. So I'll be there. Now, tickets are still on sale, going to New Zealand Perth Brisbane Adelaide, Sydney, you name it and then you don't say new tour announcement coming out in August.
Just the tickets are on sale now they're all my website and a new special in July.
Fuck. Yeah it's all
happening. Things are cooking. It's all downhill from here. Appreciate you man. Thank you. This was fun.
