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#2223 - Elon Musk

#2223 - Elon Musk

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Elon Musk, Joe Rogan
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Nov 4, 2024
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Rogan Experience trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.
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But it's like a vision of the
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future. It's like basically the like the top 20 and that will get you in the top. 100 is like totally dominated by China. Hey, it's really. Yeah, this is like trying to create a little bit of Korea and Taiwan
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so you. And are you in the top 20 in the world? The top 20? Wow in Diablo. Yeah. Do you want to tell everybody your handle? No, no, don't tell him. Don't know. It's
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not worth it. Well it's actually listed me with my actual name in a
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list. Oh did they really?
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Oh interesting. But yeah, there's only there's only two Americans in the top 20, the right. The rest. Almost everyone is a from Asia.
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Otherwise we were talking about something that I think is a really good because people always think the video games are frivolous, but what you were saying? I think that's really important is, it's so difficult that it requires you to only think about that. And it can like relieve stress. Yeah. It can take out the rest of the world because it's so hard. Yeah, you can only think about
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that. Yeah. I mean, if I like if I play video game on
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In difficulty. Then I have to concentrate fully on the game and it's, it has a calming effect. Yeah, it's sort of chills down. And I mean, you mentioned, I think, maybe people like, if you play martial arts so you
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play pool. Yeah. Like
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something that forces you. It's like, I think any anything that forces you to concentrate fully actually has a has a calming effect. I had just sort of like kind of a mental restoring effect.
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Uh, yeah, like it's good.
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You just is like that. Archery is like that as well. Like when you're shooting a bow you have to its. There's so many moving things and you're trying, you have to think only of it and it cleans the Mind clean some idea. Exactly. I was what I was reading a study about surgeons where they found that surgeons, who regularly play video games, make less errors.
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Well, it's in video games require manual dexterity. So yeah, it makes sense completely make. But actually, if somebody was like, ever good video games,
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I'd say like there's surgical skills can be very good because in order to be good at video games, any kind of fast reaction video games.
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Look at this, 32 percent, fewer errors, 24 percent faster and scored, 26 percent better overall than their non player colleagues. Oh, I believe that that's incredible. Well then that you should be required in medical school to play video games. Don't you think if
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somebody's like top a top ranked video game player and they say there were searching every like plus +1 +2 type of
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top rank for sure, because isn't even top
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Frank. This is just people
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play well, your manual dexterity has to be extremely high. Yeah, you're looking at things on the screen, you've got your reacting and there's something you got like, 10 milliseconds to react. Yeah. And and so somebody's got incredible reaction times, manual dexterity. They're obviously going to be a good surgeon.
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Imagine if there was a course that you could take, that course would promote. You would be 26 percent better. Yeah, everyone would have to take that course. Sure, why would you want a surgeon? This less prepared? You would say, hey, Bob
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Take this course, you didn't take this course. Don't you understand? This course, makes you 26 percent better. Sure, you'd have to take it. Everyone should have to play video games. Yeah. If you want to be a surgeon.
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Well, I think it certainly would be a very good test to see if somebody can't play video games. Well, like, that means, I think you got to move both hands simultaneously, right? Very active, something very fast, then on the screen. So and and if your keystrokes, or your mouse clicks or whatever, all wrong, then you lose game, right? So if somebody's like has
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A good rank in video games. I would say that there are manual necessarily their manual dexterity must be extremely
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good. Well, it's so fine motor skills have to be excellent. If you think about, like Starcraft or any game like Quake any game, where a lot of people playing to rise to the top, you have to be exceptional period as a human being. Yeah, there's to be something exceptional
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about you. Yeah, actually, for a quick way. Back in the day, I was one of the world's best Quake
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players. I know we talked about, yeah,
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I love Quake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on my final semester in college. I probably put more
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Time to wake them. All my college classes
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when I was on Newsradio, all of the Riders were super nerds. They were very, very fun guys. And they had a land set up at the studio where they all played Quake. I had never played video games, and I would go in with the Riders. Just kind of hang out with them, we get silly, and then we would all start playing video games. It playing Quake against each other, and I got a addicted, like hardcore hardcore, one line installed my house. Yeah, I went hardcore. Yeah, exactly checking how many milliseconds of
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latency. Oh yeah, I was
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I was
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Fully addicted. I was making my own computers. I was going to fries hardware and bind motherboards and put everything together. And, you know, it was too much of a Time suck, though. I'm an obsessive person. I can't get involved like a
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golf, you know, it's to go fast too. Slow for me, I mean, a lot of people find golf good and I guess if you think of it like it's I guess if you're saying we're going to walk outdoors with friends. Yeah. And occasionally hit a ball then and and you just as an outdoor walk, then that's cool.
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And does require concentration working the ball but it's it's there's too
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slow for me. Nothing compares to video games in terms of like the amount of feedback you get like yeah the the sensory overload you get. When you're looking at a large high-resolution screen, you have a fast computer, you have headphones on your hearing sounds from here and sounds behind you and Rockets are flying by you and yeah it's there's nothing like that. Yeah. But I think golf still is like Jamie will tell you a Jamie's, an addict. He's
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A Golf Nut, it's super addictive and I looks like eight hours a day.
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It's yes. Once again have to go I think, I guess a sport. Is it gets super addictive. So but for me, the, the, the intensity of video games is part of it.
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Yes. It's and the people dismiss it because they think it's just a waste of time, but we're showing like real world benefits of people playing video games. Yeah, she want to be a drone operator. It's the only game in town. Yeah,
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absolutely. Really good.
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Video games. Yeah, that's for sure. So in fact I actually tell like what my mental acuity is. If I just play by play a very hard video game. So if I'm trying to sort of get like a an extremely good, clear time in Diablo or something like that or you know, first person shooter, whatever the case may be. Like if I can tell that I'm tired or my brain is not working as well as it should. It's like a it's like
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A mental calibration can tell immediately like what is, what, how good is your mental state? Right? Right. And, you know, so it's like, if you're trying to play really well, like I said, if you play late at night and you're tired, you're just play badly, right? And you can say, okay, you may think really think that your brain is working well, but it isn't. Yeah. You play the video game. You're like you suck? Okay. Yeah you're
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putting it under stress. Yeah. You really stress testing it,
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you stress tested and because like sometimes like, oh,
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I think I'm fine, but then play the game like, okay, I'm not, I'm like, I'm like, 10% below what I should
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be, that's how I feel about workouts, for sure. Like that's how I knew. I had Cove it or a new everyone in my family had Cove it and how weaker trying to not get covered. And so I was working, I was like, something's up, I got felt fine normally, but then during exercises, like, okay, I can tell there's something wrong here, so silly back off. Relax. Yeah, yeah. It's like people who don't stress test their mind. They think they're operating on the same level.
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All the time. Like sometimes I come in here and I can't form a fucking sense and I don't know what it is. It's like what is going on so it's just leave something like what sleep wasn't that good or something? Yeah something like that or I'm too busy and it's just it's not the words aren't coming out like I know how to talk. I talk professionally and I can't believe it dog. It's
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like I mean sleeps. He is is massive. I mean huge. Yeah, so if I can tell me at least I did I get a good night's sleep or not if I just play like
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Network video games like five minutes. Yeah like okay my sleep was not good because it's my you know, and sometimes they don't little rain or recover through the day and it's like okay it's like an hour or two.
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After waking up. It's better. Yeah, your brain does kind of recover from a bad night's sleep little bit. Do
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you know? It really helps creatine. Apparently does it? Yeah. Creatine is actually a nootropic. Believe it or not. There's a lot of like benefits of creatine that I really weird there. Any downsides? No no. It's not a natural part of food. Yeah. Yeah. Especially women for women. Apparently, especially postmenopausal women. It's very beneficial. Okay. And there's but there's a lot of, like, cocked and have benefits in one of the big ones that they found recently is
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Is performance. When sleep-deprived mental performance, would sleep deprived and pre increases pretty measurably. When you supplement with
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creatine is creatine naturally occurring in like steak
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or yeah, it's like naturally occurring in meat. I think, I think that's where it's coming from. I think it's a primarily, an animal-based thing. Yeah, but like I did switch to
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like steak and eggs for breakfast and I found that's like a power up. Oh yeah,
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yeah. Well we're all overrun with carbohydrates. Yeah.
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And you just like carbohydrates make this big crash. The rise gradually rise in the crash. He stay flat if you eat like a primarily high protein. High fat diet. Yeah. Your body runs off ketosis. Yeah. Actually,
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I mean I so I just have like steak and eggs. Nope. No bread or, yeah, and Graham. It's great, actually, it's a power up. I'd
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say, people dismiss, this whole carnivore diet thing because in our heads, there's a lot of propaganda this. That put this thing out there, that animal agriculture is the number one contributor.
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Tutor to global warming.
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It's this rubbish. Well, sure bullshit.
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It's hot bullshit matter. Not only is it hot bowling but the real problem is factory. Farming. Rajender of farming is carbon neutral. If doesn't sequester
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carbon? The, the animals are not gonna make any difference, global warming they can, uh, no no. It's your shit suppose yours
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nothing. Do you think that that's just propaganda, because of people that have a vested interest in like plant-based meat products and things along those lines. Green energy, I think it's part of it.
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You know, you'd only going to get people pushing to avoid meat, like it. So we will just, you know, maybe the go to financial interest, they're just like vegetarians or vegans or whatever
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ideological and
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ideological reasons, but that's not going to make any difference to global warming. Or, you know, the CO2 concentration atmosphere, really? If people eat pure Stakes, it doesn't matter. It's relevant irrelevant. I want to be super clear about that.
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Yeah. And not
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matter, you will not even be able to measure it. Okay, that's
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How relevant it is,
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isn't it funny that that's measurable, that's relevant. Alright, heretic speaking, like that's crazy talk. Now nowadays it's like you have to say that we have to eat less meat. Mm, back,
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early as much money as you want to talk about your
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difference saying it saying it?
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Tell the world? Yeah, absolutely. And if somebody says it does make a difference I'm like how will you measure it? And if you can't even measure it then this bullshit. Yeah. Literally won't be able to measure
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it. Well, there's so much bullshit out to do first of all. Yes, well thank you directions. Thank you so much.
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Each for buying Twitter, you're welcome so much. I'm not exaggerating when I think you changed the course of history. I really do. I really think you you made a fork in the road. We were headed down a path of censorship and of control of narratives, that is unprecedented. Forget about what they were able to do back when they had newspapers and the media under control the what they were doing with social media by suppressing information. And when you had a
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bind government effort like with what they were doing with the laptop story. Yep. We have 51. Former Intelligence agents saying that this is Russian disinformation take it off offline and Twitter complied. Yeah if we if you didn't buy that we wouldn't have known that. We had no idea
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exactly know that it's I mean the reason I bought it is because I'm going to pretty attuned since I was like the most interacted with user on Twitter before the acquisition. So before the actors that had more interaction,
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But then like there's some accounts like Obama and whatever had a higher follow accounts, but I had the most number of interactions of any account in the system. So as very attuned to like if they saw change, if they change the system I can tell immediately like and I'm like, I'm like something weird is going on here, you know. Like yeah so there's like I just got increasingly uneasy and obviously when they D platform to sitting president you know not deep deep platform Trump. That was that was just insane.
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Shane, you know, and the things he was posting like he was posting things that like Yuri was posed. A good things, he was saying like, hey, we don't do not Riot but don't do any destruction of property, you know. Please stay calm that, that's the kind of stuff. Yeah. Post it. Yeah. And you're like, what's wrong with that? That's and then, then that there's some people say like, oh that's like some sort of dog whistle. He means the opposite. I'm like, okay, so we'll give you Trump's account now, you, but you post what you think you should post, because you can put
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Nothing you can ask you to calm down like what? It was insane like it didn't make any
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sense. Well, it's completely illogical when you say it's dog whistling to tell his followers to not be violent. Yes, crazy and crazy. That's crazy, crazy. Don't you think they'll listen to him? Yeah. Isn't that the whole point they listen to him and created violence in the first place? That's what you think. That's what you're exactly, you're accusing him up, right? And then there's the fact that we know that there was agents in the crowd. There were agent provocateurs, that
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Encouraging people to do illegal shit. Yes, we know that for a fact, this is not that it was always the big Alex Jones. Type tinfoil hat conspiracy theory because Alex proposed that back at the World Trade Organization protests, I believe we're in Seattle, in the 90s and they sent an agent provocateur start smashing things. Lighting things on fire. Now, also in a peaceful protest is no longer peaceful. They move in the cops, they shut everything down, they had it set up where it was a no protest Zone.
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Or you could even have a pin that had the WTO with a red line through it. They wouldn't let you go in through to go to work. So you couldn't protein, you couldn't exercise your first amendment rights. You couldn't even like have a peaceful protest, a fucking sticker on your car. You couldn't have that, it's
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crazy. It's crazy. So no I think we're very much in fork in the road in Destiny and so I mean there's like it did the correct position was like it's like man if I don't do this
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Us. I think we're screwed as
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the issue. Well, he didn't do it. No one else was gonna do it because it wasn't a financial
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winner. It was kind of a crazy move. It's a crazy move. I mean the thing was way overpriced and you know, I like long term I think we can. We know that ultimately make it a win for investors, but boy is this, this is a this is a hard way to make a living but there's also a concerted effort to suppress it. There's a
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concerted effort that the
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advertisers what? We had a still have a massive advertising.
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As a boycott that was organized by a bunch of left-wing ngos. Like you know, and you always want and I should have, I should have brought my, I have a hat. Make all well, fiction.
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Again, I've seen that. Yeah, I
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actually thought I was going to wear my, I should have brought my coil fiction to have it but, but yeah, I mean, it's just totally totally nuts.
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So if you didn't do it, no one would have. And here's the hilarious narrative, that I keep hearing from idiots.
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Elon's a bad businessman Twitter is worth, you know, four hundred percent less than when he bought it. No, it wasn't worth that in the first place. It was within the coast but it wasn't worth forty four billion dollars you fucking morons like wrong and also you're not taking into account, The Advertiser boycott exactly. That's total
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bullshit. Yeah exactly. So there are these organizations like you can tell there's like they're like like when they have an orwellian name. So like the Sanchez Center for countering digital hate right is has a total scam organization
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Because they're like the ministry of Truth to. Yeah. You know. Well you know there are like their censorship organization. Yeah. And they're organized and they pushed the advertisers to boycott. So we still have like some of the boycotters is starting to lift. And I think if Trump wins will see, you know, probably a lot most of the boycott left but if Kamala ones will see that boycott get stronger and and
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The friggin shut down. There's no way that they're sort of come out. Come out about grazing would allow X to exist.
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You really think that they'll be able to shut it down, though? Is there a pathway to
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that? Yes, what would they do?
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Well, I mean, they can just, they can stick the doj on, you know, it's a like, you know, they've had this whole thing about, like, a speech most information whatever except that, the other ones pushing the misinformation that doesn't stop them from filing, massive lawsuits, and using the doj, I mean, like the doj is to, you know, attacking SpaceX, for example, for not hiring asylum-seekers, even though it is legal for SpaceX to hire, anyone who's not a permanent resident of the u.s. So at we're damned if we do and damned if we don't,
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There's an example, just example of what DJ can do.
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So it's illegal to hire. Someone who's not an American citizen.
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What SpaceX is considered an advanced weapons technology? So it's covered by International traffic and arms regulations because we make rocket technology, that can be used against the United States. It's like if North Korea or Iran, got SpaceX rocket technology. They could use that to launch nukes at America, right? That would be bad. Yeah, that's really bad, he really bad. So so we're
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Since we are in like the most extreme category of weapons technology at SpaceX under USI tarlowe, it is illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident because the presumption is that, if they're not a permanent resident, they were going to return to their home country and take the rocket technology with them. So that's and so it legal for us to hire. Anyone who's not it either has not approached, they can be, I have a green card or be a citizen to just have to be a permanent resident of the United.
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States. Then there's another law that says, if you discriminate against Asylum, Seekers, that's also a, you also breaking the law.
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So they just so that the doj will show that their take dear. Jay can only do a small number of big lawsuits every year. Launched the general seating Space X saying that SpaceX discriminated against Asylum Seekers and we're like, but we're like, but it's illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident. So we're in this like this is what I mean, it's like, oh well, oh well, situation is getting insane. Like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you
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don't. So damned. Do you imagine history? Looking back up, man?
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An at when you watch the robot arms catch the rocket. And you realize like this is like one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of Aerospace. Like it is one of the more while this accomplishment when you watch that thing come and you see all those people cheering and it catches it perfectly like holy shit imagine how history is going to look back at the doj going after that company. Yeah. How interesting it is
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Big lawsuit with an army of lawyers. Like this was not like some minor
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Thing. But doesn't even make any sense. Was no anything, how could it even get brought to court if it's illegal?
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That's exactly. So, that's what I mean. Like, basically, if the guy wants to go after you, they'll just find a reason. You just like that famous quote from bahria, you know? Like so like Stalin's Like Chief torturer, the head of Stalin's secret police and he's like, T of torture. Truly evil human being like this guy barrier. His one of his famous quotes was showing me the man and I'll show you the crime.
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Right. They just they just they like they decide that you're the Target and then they figure out the crime afterwards.
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That's the issue. They decided SpaceX was the target. They just figured out the crime
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after which is so crazy because that's exactly what they're saying. Trump is going to do if he gets into
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office. They're doing all the things that they accused Trump of doing. Yeah.
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Openly openly. Yeah.
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I mean the the sheer number of hoaxes that the Democratic party is pushing over and over again. They and psyche, look, I understand like politicians are going to, you know, exaggerated they're gonna
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Miss speak and they'll tell occasional you know on Troost whatever I suppose that's how it is in politics. But when you have deliberate concerted repeated pushing of hoaxes? You're like wait a second like come on man, this is too. This is too
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far and you're supposed to be the good guys you're
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supposed and you claim to be the good guys. I'm like
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exactly. He's supposed to be the progressives.
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Yes, the dams like, oh, we're the good, guys with honest people. No, no, hang on, you can't claim to be the good guys. You can't claim to be honest people. If you're deliberately post
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Shang hoaxes. That have been debunked
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thoroughly. Yeah. What rock you
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like? Even Snopes which is a liberal thing he says is bogus. Yeah, like the fine people. Hugs
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Obama just said that on stage just said that I was like what the flying fuck. He doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't give a fuck they're just they're just gone. Goddamn fucking lie. Flat out lie flat on fucking about the other one where kamala's campaign used what Trump was saying about protecting women and from illegal immigrants like you remember that the he yeah. What he was saying is that
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Women like it or not, I'm gonna do it. Yeah. When he was saying that they were trying to say that he was taking a woman's right to choose whether women like it or not, like, that's not what he was saying. Absolutely was literally talking about protecting them from dangerous people. They're sneaking in through the Border.
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Yes, exactly. But they'll take like, like not even a full sentence, like a half a sentence from yes and then and then I'll push it on every ad every every speaking event, every contributed on
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the news. Yes this is what's crazy. They'll talk about it on these new shows.
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Shows a quote new shows.
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Yeah, exactly. And I'm in a recent one that came up which had a lot of people, because a lot of people reached out to me was like, they're like, oh Trump says he wants to execute Liz Cheney. I'm like,
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that is utter bullshit. What he said at
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all, it's not what he said at all. He always said it was like, I was like, what he's saying is that look if Liz Cheney had actually had to fight at the front? Lines should think twice about going to war.
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Exactly. But like it's easy to,
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it's easy to go to war. It's easy to be a warmonger. If you don't have to, you know, risk dying at the front lines, like if other, like, basic is fucked up. If, if people are having like fancy dinners in Washington DC, while people are being slaughtered and trenches. You know, it's like you're not feeling the pain. Exactly. You're not taking the risk, it, someone else dying. That's like it's that's cruel and lacking in empathy. And, and Ultron was saying, was that it's like
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Liz Cheney will be much less chatter will be much less of a warmonger because she's a huge whore Monger. Just like your dad. If she actually had to go to the front lines fight
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herself and meanwhile, they're saying that he should. He's saying she should be shot. Yes, which is a total lie.
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And what I had, like tons of people call me this weekend saying, oh Trump says he's gonna put was trained in a firing squad. Like that is an outrageous lie and Legacy Media Trend with that lie. Big
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time. Yeah, it's crazy. It's just wild to see and if
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Wasn't for Twitter or X. Now, I don't think we would know about all this stuff I think would be very difficult for you. I think YouTube throttled they did something where they won't say what they did but they did something weird with the Trump interview that I did. Yeah. Well you couldn't find it
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doesn't make sense like like made no sense. I mean, it's like the, it was like, the biggest interview on Earth. Yeah. And you can't find it.
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Yeah. Not only that, it was like trending bullshit. It wasn't trending. It wasn't trending wasn't trending. Like
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like there's just no excuse for that man. Excuse. There's no
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excuse getting a million views. One point was at one point for an hour at one point in time. 1.5 an hour. Yeah, it wasn't trending. Yeah. Like and it's like, it's like
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your channel is a known channel. It's not. It's not like it was started yesterday. It's like yeah it's like this
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is a high trust yours has a high trust
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channel. It's like you're not trying to sell your scam crypto coins social but you know
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so well thank God. We put it on X as well. Yeah.
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I think just with your account of my account alone that's like 70 million views. Exactly. Yeah. Well, it's like you can't hide things anymore because of you and if it wasn't for you I think they would have had total control social media by now. Yeah, they would have thought they banned so many accounts during the pandemic, somebody dissenting scientists and doctors and Physicians, they banned so many conspiracy theorists. So many people that colored Outside the Lines. They would have done that everywhere and it probably would have paid. I think even
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What's going on at Facebook? They're they're being more lenient. You know here, zarbor talking about taking more libertarian stance. That's entirely reaction to the way. Twitter has kind of moved the watermark.
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Exactly so it soon as as soon as any company steps out of line and is willing to actually have the truth that debated on their platform that forces, the other platforms to allow things to be more truthful to not censor because their censorship becomes extra glaringly obvious. Yes,
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Um, yes. And you know the best thing I found for as a rebuttal like if somebody if there's a hoax is just go to the source material, you know, if you think if somebody's saying thanks, you know. It's Trump said that we should put those chain in a firing squad. I'm like, let me send you a link to X so you can watch his video. That's the best way. Yeah, it's don't don't take my opinion for it. Don't take anyone's opinion for it. Go to the source
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material, and Community notes. Yes, incriminates Community. Most of the best. It's awesome. It's incredible because
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Cuz everybody gets checked yes,
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including me. Yeah, and it was Community notes, the all the software is open source and all the data is open source so you can recreate any given note independently.
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That's amazing. Yeah, that's how it's bit. That's how it should be total absolute
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transparency in every way. You know, sometimes you get a grass like, oh, you only can you remove a note, you know, mostly by the left, but sometimes by the right. I'm like, I'm like, I don't even remove remove notes on my own account. Nothing. And, and by the way, everything is totally open. So if I did that, it would stick out like a sore thumb. Yeah. Immediately like, it's not going to be
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subtle. That is the best counter to miss information. Yes, absolutely. Like you let everybody look at it and say, oh,
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Okay. Here's what the actual
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facts. Yes, exactly. The counter to miss information is better information.
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Not just that but having it checked in real time by the community. So you have millions of people that can go over and debate whether or not this is true or that's
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true. Yes. And just like I said, the best way to understand the truth. Things is, don't take anyone's opinion for it. Look at the source material, you know, sounds like, look at what someone actually said, look what someone actually did. Look at the real videos of the situation, and then you can actually you'll know.
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What's real?
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So as of today, when you were literally on your way here, you sent me this text saying that they're trying to lock you up in jail. Yeah it's Vania. Tell me what the fuck is happening. Well, you know, there's the
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classic sort of Soros da situation, so we're making a lot of progress in Pennsylvania. So, I, you know, I've been given a whole bunch of talks in throughout the state because Pennsylvania is the lynchpin in this election, you know, whoever wins Pennsylvania, wins the election. So,
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so I've been giving to and I spent three years in Pennsylvania, I went to college in Philadelphia, so so it's not like, I'm not a total, I'm not got total stranger to the state, you know, spent three years there and and and we we've organized this petition in support of the Constitution, which I think is a good thing and, and specifically asking people to, and we wanted this to be like,
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Registered voters in swing States. Like basically want to send a message to the politicians to say that the people care about the Constitution because they've been all these attacks on the Constitution they've been especially on the Democrat side. They've been repeatedly saying that the first amendment is an obstacle good and the claim although the first amendment is is enabling distant disinformation misinformation and I'm like, yo there's a reason for the First Amendment like freedom of speech. The reason they found the country put, you know,
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The speed of speech there is because they came from countries. Where if you spoke your mind you would get shot or imprisoned. That's why the First Amendment exists. And the Second Amendment is there to stop the tourney of government. The Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, is there to protect freedom of speech.
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Ian.
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You know, and I've had these debates especially with people in LA because they're like 12, everyone's guns away. And I'm like, yo can you guarantee me that the government that we will never have a tyrannical government? You know, in the United States? Can you can you make that guarantee? But like, well, nobody can make that guarantee. I'm like, then we need to keep our guns because that's what that's what's going to
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stop it.
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That sounds crazy for people to hear because they think about gun violence. You've done problems and gun this and gun that. But that's the reality of the world that we live in. Is that tyranny is possible and it exists other places and it's slowly existing. It's slowly rearing. Its head in the UK, you're saying, I think the the number of people that have been arrested for just social media posts is bananas. It's in the
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thousands? Yes, several thousand people have been have been given prison sentences.
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Two sentences in the UK for social media posts that were there was no explicit link to actual violence but they just said it encouraged violence. Were like, well, did anyone actually do anything as a result of that media post will know, but that they're just and then they have a prison overcrowding situation, the UK. So that quite literally releasing convicted paedophiles and putting people in jail for Facebook posts.
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Does an actual thing happening in Britain.
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That is so wild.
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Like it's you like it's all while the Wildcats fuck, you know, is going
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on. And what's insane to Me? Maybe soil fiction again. Yeah, you know, but it's all being encouraged by the left Catan, G Brown Jackson, John Kerry,
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Johnny Hillary, John Kerry, was one of the people who said that he's on camera reads like a few weeks ago, saying that the first amendment is a problem is an obstacle to fighting misinformation. Yeah,
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that's crazy. It's such a crazy thing to say when you have a solution,
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Sharon in community notes? Yeah, it was solution in something like that. That could clear everything up, any confusion within a day or
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two and even without a community note you can reply to a post and with evidence that that that shows that the post is wrong. You don't even need Community notes. I mean communicates is helpful because it sticks to the original note. Yeah. But in the replies you can say here's why you're wrong. Here are the reasons and here's the evidence.
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The argument is that people are to unsophisticated that they're not going to research these things, they're going to be a victim of misinformation. So they're going to
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It's something that's incorrect. They're going to run with it. People are going to die. People go to the, we're going to ruin the world because people believed in misinformation, it's a stupid argument. The stupid dog, because it's an argument that they're too dumb to know what's right or wrong with you. If you know, because you're saying it's Miss information. Why do you think that you're smarter than everybody who reads that
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exactly. And obviously, anyone on the X system knows that things were posted and then there are applies a of the rebuttals, and then it's immediately corrected, but where are the corrections for the Legacy Media, right? You know, when
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If some broadcast media puppet, they said stay say false things all the time, but it's a one-way Street, there's no rebuttal, there's no counter,
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right, right? This the who's apologized for being incorrect about what did Rachel Maddow ever apologize for telling everybody that if you get the covert vaccine, you're never gonna get over it, it won't the virus tops with you, never never, never never, it's just, it was not true at the time, there was no evidence to support it at the time. It's pure propaganda and she said it, the Russia gate.
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Hoax the three fucking years. They said that he was Putin's toy. Yes. And that Putin had him compromise. The steel
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dossier of us are was a completely fabricated. Yeah, a lawyer at Perkins coie, who was paid by the Clinton campaign, literally craze, and still people think the Russian hooks
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Israel, and there's no repercussions. Yes, no one had to apologize. Hillary Clinton never came out and apologized for that and people still listen to her, the whole thing's crazy, and it's all coming from the left which growing up as a person.
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In the left, my whole life. It's like same fucking
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sense. Same, I mean, I even, I was on the left until like three years ago. I mean,
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you know, left anymore. It's not the left anyway. It's just like, I
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think we obviously want. I mean, I believe, like we want freedom, like we want it, we want to maximize post personal Liberty and if we want, we want to be kind to people, you know, we want to have an empathy and
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And but it's very important to have personal freedom and a merit-based society. And the left is is once to oppress your freedoms especially freedom of speech and they want to they want to have an on Merit based society. You know, with race-based its expertise preferences and it's like we'll wait a second. No we just want people to succeed based on their skills and their hard
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work and if they don't want people to express themselves about particular issues, then they're not doing the will of the people. And if they're trying to suppress
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Ability to communicate. They're only doing that because they want to do things that people don't want them to do. Yeah. And they want to silence opposition. That's all it is. And that are sent people can't see that and they want to call Trump a fascist. Well, the whole thing is, it's just Through the Looking-Glass. This is, I mean, it's like one hooks after
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another that their Pro training As Trump, I'm like the try to call the rally at Madison Square Gardens, Like A Nazi rally. I'm like, yo, those like it literally and Israeli flag in the audience. I think, like a quarter of the speakers were Jewish.
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Like there was like there were people of every race color creed religion at that. At that rally like tell me what about that is not see and yet it was portrayed as a Nazi
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rally was gonna send BC. They literally showed video of the Nazi rally for 1930s and then compared it to the Trump rally. Now, ignoring the fact that fucking Jimmy Carter spoke there
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have been dozens of Yaga rallies at Madison Square, Gardens dozens on the, on the Democrat side, like people and people on extra like and here's exactly here's Jimmy Carter and here's
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And a not so clicking. And here's wait a second, actually, it looks
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like every presidential candidate has done a on the Democrat side has done a rally at Madison Square Gardens. Are they not cease
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to, but what they're doing is they're preying on low information. Voters, who are engaged actively on social media who don't have the time to look through everything. Exactly. Yeah, like
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people are living. If you've all just on looking at Legacy mainstream media, then they have a totally different world view than if they're on X and N. Seeing the, the actual
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Flow of argument. Yeah, and the actual evidence.
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Well what was the push back? Like what happened when you guys release the Twitter files? Because I think the Twitter files is probably one of the most important things in this age of information. For understanding the influence of government has on social media and on discourse. Because when we found out that that was the case that the government was actually asking Twitter to remove post that were factual to, they did the same thing to Facebook. They have them throttle pieces of one of Tucker Carlson's show,
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Suppress the views by 50%. Yeah, a factual information. Ya know, there was, there was massive government
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interference in Twitter but like Twitter welcomed it. It doesn't burn to all Twitter welcomed it. I mean, all Twitter was controlled by, by far left activists. Yeah. So, and, and they welcomed the governor to parents the government. They go paid by the
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going forward. That's crazy. They got paid for their time,
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correct? Yeah, they go to pay billions of dollars.
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For for suppressing information. So it's like Bill and I watch videos like that are legal, like the FBI. Had this like this, this this sort of magic portal into the Twitter system and at the but all of the communication that they're sort of in this portal was ordered to lead it after two weeks which breaks Federal foias. So we don't even know what we said because it was or deleted after two weeks.
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That's insane. Yeah, that's so crazy. It's so crazy people thought that was okay,
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it's not super not, okay?
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Now, it's super not. Okay, it's unconstitutional.
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Oil. And no one would want that. No one would want the government to have that kind of access. Exactly. And what was the blowback like when all that stuff got released? Like you had to anticipate that there was going to be problems when you release that like what was what happened?
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Well we got a lot of, we didn't lose a lot of advertising dollars and
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Which is crazy because it's essentially like one of the most important forms of Journalism is exposing government
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corruption. Yes. I mean, this is the weird thing is, like, the left used to be big on exposing government corruption, but net, but once they control the government, they no longer want to expose the government corruption,
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right? They want to pretend that the left-wing governments and capable yet corruption. Yes, we're on the good side.
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I think it may. You're just like, you know, whoever's in power kind of doesn't want the
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No, the other side heard because as you pointed out like the left, historically it about until I don't know, maybe even 10 years ago. Something like that was the Free Speech party. And now it's the anti-free speech party and they just they use, they use words like, like, oh well, we have to be against hate speech and misinformation disinformation, but these are propaganda words, you know, it's like, well, who's defining hate speech, who's defining this information to the government?
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You really trust? The government to make that definition, the whole point of the of the first amendment is like, do not trust the
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government? Well, especially when they're wrong. Yeah. And there's no repercussions. Yeah, like what the whole Lab leak theory, if you get you would get kicked off of YouTube if you even presented this argument that. Hey, maybe that coronavirus lab where they're doing work on the exact same virus that got released. Yep. Hey, maybe that's where it came from since.
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That's where the virus started. What do you think, guys? Yeah, the kick your right off of
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YouTube. Yeah, yes, exactly. It's like, do you think maybe the it could have come from the place called the novel coronavirus Research
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Institute like that Jon Stewart? Did that Colbert was amazing? What does it say on the door again? Can I see your business card? And it's called bear like resisting it with every fiber of it that I can, what's gonna happen to us. He was totally cock-blocking the bit to the
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Point where Jon Stewart got off his chair and her walking around trying to that was wild troll. Yeah. And
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John, and then the left try to cancel Jon Stewart, of
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course. Yeah. Meanwhile, he was right. He's right. And no apologies. No apologies. Yeah. And you know, the whole fauci thing, like any criticism of fauci. It's
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like anti-science demon. If you ask me,
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if you read our F K's book, yeah, the real Anthony fauci, if that's correct, if the facts are in there, that's true. It's all referenced. You could find the sources and on top of it.
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It has never been sued for that book, which doesn't make any sense. If he just made a bunch of Lies up here, we get to. Yes. So the guy's a monster, I think
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so. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah. I think like just looking at the lies that he told the way he tried to, he find gain-of-function research to Rand Paul
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but he I think a lot of maybe a lot of people out there don't realize fauci funded the the bioweapons research that was going on and who had he bank shot it off like you can't send the money.
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Tracy, just backed out of ecohealth, write this like, fake nonprofit in the US, and they sent it to him
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and Obama put the skids on that, he stopped that in
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2004. Yes. I mean so, you know, to give a Brahma, throw Obama, give a man, some credit. He actually was like, looking at this and say, hey, this is crazy and we need and he so he actually did stop the like, like the so-called gate gain-of-function, again, a propaganda word because what is the function? They're talking about death,
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Right right, right. It's so if it is, if you actually use the right word, this is gain of function. Is death maximization right? Then you're like, oh, hey guys, refund bio-weapon Research into death maximization because that's what gain-of-function means. Yeah, it means the function,
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make it a disease so that people can get it, give it to people. Yes, and all, by the
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way, what's that function? Again or the function is death, okay? So just call it a death maximizing virus,
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Fuer bassoon research on that. And the idea behind this research is so that we can cure these things. How come you don't have a fucking
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cure start with a solid cure cure for his disease.
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Second doesn't make any sense like you guys had no strategy for dealing with it if it got out. And so you have to like make up this this new vaccine and like record time. Operation, Warp Speed release. It to the people with very little testing fucking crazy. It was crazy. The whole thing is crazy and it was like, just went along with
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it. Looney Tunes.
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Level. Well, it's the siop was fascinating to watch people step and looks like one of the biggest obstacle time of all time, of all time of all time and everybody got in line. And when you take it back to when pharmaceutical drug companies, were able to advertise on media in the 1990s that changed everything. We're one of two countries in the whole world that allows this. Yeah. And because of that because we don't have socialized medicine, it's a complete profit scam and they went hard claiming all
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Things that were never researched, all sorts of things have not supported by data, like the fact that it would stop transmission, the fact that it would stop infection. The fact that is safe for pregnant women. The fact that it was safe for children, all of its bullshit. Yes. And they pushed it on the whole world and if you didn't say that at a cocktail party you were a pariah. Yes. And you were an anti-vaxxers totally psycho. It was like being a holocaust denier. You got kicked out of strip polite Society. Exactly,
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fuck, Nana's. And I should say, like, I'm actually generally pro-vaccine.
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Seen overall, you know, I think we should look at these things that that but that but I believe in the scientific method. So you have a blanket, accept anything, you never blanket, accept that any any given medication or any given treatment is is 100% good. You should always be with some skepticism
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especially when you're getting the data from pharmaceutical. Drug companies that have like a long history of Gradle got a vested in
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conduct. Yes they've got a vested interest in the research, it's sort of like asking tobacco companies about, you know,
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We're like smoking right? It's dangerous. You know exactly something like according to our scientists everything's fine,
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sliding Court forever. The same thing they do with Oxycontin when I said that it wasn't addictive. Like they have a long history of being full of shit. If it makes the money, that's what they do business.
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They have literally lost, multi-billion dollar lawsuit in this
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mass as of during the amazing scientists, right? You have these clinical researchers, these people to develop these incredible drugs and they this is
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their job, their job is to figure out some new way to cure something new way to stop thing and then you have the money people. Sure. And the problem is, when you have this one thing that you would assume they're only doing it to help people. And then they have this other faction that they're all just numbers people and all they give a fuck about as maximizing profit and making sure they literally have an obligation to their shareholders, have to make the most amount of money possible. And so, they just want to push it on everybody regardless.
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Vioxx. Scandal there's internal emails showing they knew there was going to be cardiovascular events people going to get strokes. Yeah. And they're like, I think we're still going to do well and they did. They made like 12 billion dollars. They got find seven and fifty to sixty thousand people died. Holy shit yeah. One of them was a friend of mine. Got a stroke and don't yet know he didn't die. He lived, but he was a really healthy guys and it's like not the same afterwards. Yeah. It knee problems and he took vioxx and also to do you slurring his words and he couldn't concentrate and
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Like I think you're having a fucking stroke and they took him to the hospital. And then, then you have this giant class action lawsuit, then virus gets pulled from the market and they get sued and the whole thing's fucking crazy, but there's a long history. This, I think, what did, what is the number like one-third of the drugs that the FDA approves gets pulled? It's fucking bananas. That's crazy. That's crazy. Your shitty at one-third of the things that you say are, okay, but you're trying to stop MDMA therapy for veterans.
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Yeah, that should let MDMA.
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Through honestly, that think they're actually helped a lot of people.
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It would help a lot of people and a lot of people there's a lot of different therapies pisses specifically psilocybin. I began the fact you have to go to Mexico to get ibogaine therapy for veterans so many guys I've talked to have gone over there and it's like completely giving them a clean slate. Refresh their mind and totally new perspective on life. Alleviated, depression, cured, addictions illegal. Yeah, illegal Oxycontin. Go get it.
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Yeah,
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and I know some people who like their life was ruined by Oxycontin. Oh yeah. Because I mean, it really depends on, you know, somebody than individual biochemistry like to me, like, opioids are not addicted to me, like I, you know, I've had them when about operations or something and they donate their, they barely affect the, my pain level. And they make me like itchy and uncomfortable.
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They make me stupid and, you know,
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exactly. But but I'm like, so sort of like
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Like, I could never get addicted to alcohol or opioids. It's just impossible like this because my biochemistry just does not have like, no, but I love tasty food feel like, you know, yeah, you know, if there's I'm addicted to tasty food. Sure. But like, there's a can be like I have a whole wall of wolf alcoholics there for decoration like a dungeon
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somewhere. I could easily quit alcohol. Yeah, I mean, I'll go weeks without having a trunk. It doesn't bother me at all, but I know some people, they have one drink and they're Off to the Races and that's the difference in the biochemistry.
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Chemical differences that we all have. Yeah, I mean I think that's the case with a lot of addictions. I'm not addicted to gambling, but I get it. I see it. I've seen it in people but I'm I'm I have this a version, two things. I know are going to ruin my life. I've see a that's why I've never tried cocaine. I just saw too many people that it looks too fun. Like, I don't want to get
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involved. Yeah, I mean, I think it's generally for any given drug legal or illegal. You could. The question is, can you complete the following sentence blank made me a better?
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Person. Like I've never heard anyone say
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meth made them a better person or cocaine made them a better person. No, ever
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made a lot of soldiers better, I think that's. Yeah. If I mean if you're doing this if you're
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like, if you know, if your soldiers need to watch for three days in a row?
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Yeah. Yes. It's really
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effective at that. You know, like you feel give like France a hard time, but, you know, capitulating in World War Two, but you know, what's? What's
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Worse than Nazis Nazis on
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meth. They're not stopping bullets. They're like they're still coming back over there. Blitzed is all about the use of meth amphetamines and the different drugs that they gave their soldiers. The guys, the front of the line to give the most meth. Yes, if different dosages. Yeah, I mean, you just basically think you're on vulnerable and
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math and so it's one thing to be like so. So I think we, you know, have like the
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She's going after Eva Nazis on Matthew like, holy shit. Those fuckers are not stopping
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there. Three days. It's not stopping. It's so crazy. Yeah, that's not a statement math. Made me a better person that you
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hear very often that pool. Now,
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you're a lot of like psilocybin Advocates. You can hear a lot of people to talk about psychedelics.
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Exactly. I've actually heard many people say that LSD or mushrooms or MDMA made them a better person. Yeah, many people. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, I think a rule for the FDA
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Should be like, hey look if you can complete the sentence legal or illegal. That blank made you a better person actually. Yeah. Then then you got a good drug and if you can't you got a bad drug.
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Also, if there's drugs that are available right now that can absolutely ruin people's lives. This, the the rationalization for stopping other drugs, that might ruin people's lives, but also can help a lot of people's lives. It doesn't make any sense, your, it's basically the same thing as censorship, you're taking away, people's ability to discern.
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True, and not true. And you're taking away people's ability to discern, what's good for you and not good for you. And the way to find that out is to have as much information as possible. Actually. So to do research and actually to have unbiased actual objective, observers, who are looking all the stuff they give you real data. Yes. And the opposite of that or the counter. That is like, if you don't do that, you're empowering cartels. Yes, that's the whole reason why they have all that money. It's because it's illegal to sell these drugs.
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In America, the demand is never going away. So instead of like limiting the amount of drugs now you've got toxic drugs because Fentanyl and all this other shit is because they're not pure. So you're just killing people. You're not saving anybody by protecting them from themselves true but it's a tricky situation because what do you do? Like if you just like, say, okay now everyone can sell all these people that have been selling boner pills. Now you can sell meth like holy shit.
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But the double combo where it's by group, it's a flagrant, a
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myth, right? Jesus Christ. Oh my god. Oh my god. Well I mean I'm already doing that right now with other people by doing that. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there that essentially on meth. Yeah. Especially people that abuse Adderall. Yeah, they're basically amphetamine up all day
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long at all, is low grade in front of me? Yeah. It's so the and I
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I have actually seen people like become much worse people. If they take too much at all like much worse, you know, it's like an anchor amplifier. So there's now, I'm not saying like Adderall, is something like, where there's there are pluses and minuses is not a clear-cut issue, right? It does help some people a great deal and but in higher doses, man, that that stuff I've seen people turn into a raging monsters on on high doses of Adderall just there, the, they're just angry like extremely angry
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bull.
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Time? Yeah, they're messed up. Yeah, that's bad. That's what happens if you take meds. It's crazy when
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you turn it. Like, mr. Chintu, a friggin rage demon and stuff
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and I'm like money prescription. I'm like, gee, we we Google that I know one year, there was like 39 million prescriptions for Adderall in this country.
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Oh yeah. And it like, once in a while is like a natural shortage in like this like watch Widespread Panic, you know,
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and it's the same thing just like when they tried to like limit the amount of Oxycontin, will people go to
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Street heroin. And if you're addicted to Adderall and your dealer, you guys, sells you weed is like, hey man, I can get you like low grade math. Like the stuff, the Nazis took
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well, that that I grade math, X, that pharmaceutical grade. It was for that epic, that big man. It was like, made by the, like pharmaceutical grade math is going to be like, this, this is a serious. Look at the, we're getting Online Wikipedia page, but there's like many different versions of math. Like not all the same and they have different effects.
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So, but like, pharmaceutical grade, pure math, you are going to be, oh my
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God, super productive, super doctor for a certain period of time and and you're going to see for a while. And,
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and then you'll have some anger management issues. So, like the actually, the, the not see that they did actually roll back, how much meth they were using, because they had it bad, quite a few incidents of the, of the
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The soldiers killing their offices because they were on too much meth
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah. Could you do that to me? Officer got dragged by the by the you know the their platoon that was on too much math because they that happened quite a few times. Like you just went where some was a lot of Matthew. They're they're they're, they're very the can get very angry.
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Did you ever pay attention to when John McAfee was
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Cooking meth in a lab and his
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backyard. I'm actually it's quite a
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character. He was a character character. We had him on the podcast when he was on the run. So, he called in from an undisclosed location when he was running from. Where was he Costa Rica's? I where he was Alisal. He's right. So when he was running from the authorities, yeah, he called in, we had him on the podcast on the run and I was asking him about these posts like because there was an online account that was linked to him where he had this very detailed.
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Laboratory like super sophisticated. Yeah the best math like a super genius cooking meth.
58:08
I mean he like you have like his lab like he was making like a wide range of drugs and there's like I talked to actually like a reporter who went down and like interviewed him and beliefs and and fortunate, man, this is one of the scariest things. He's like he was pure
58:31
Quite terrified. So one of the things I think a theory yet I guess this trick where he would play Russian roulette with himself so should put a bullet in in the revolver and there's been that spin the chamber and clearly he had like some like trick to, you know, know that it was not there. Some, you know, way that he knows it's not the right book but I do Wonder like if McAfee is high and he does that, he's not always going to get the trick. Right. You
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know you sure you had a trick or
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me and I said, yeah, so sorry.
59:01
So, the corn is reporter when he went to visit McAfee and Belize. We capture, took up the role of put up, put a bullet in the revolver, spawn the chamber and then pointed at his head and went click, and the report is like saying, please don't do is like, this is insane. Click click click and then pointed the gun on the ground and mixed went click, bang and try to push out a bulletin. The ground, Jesus, that's a hell of a party trick
59:25
Chief, the next level for. That's right. I've seen the Dear Hunter too many times. Yes. Remember that scene.
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Well, they were
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forcing yes. Yeah. Whoo-hoo. Have you seen doesn't have you seen De Niro and Christopher Walken. This one of the greatest scenes in any movie ever, I never watch that scene, just like clawing at my pants. Yeah. Oh knock. If he was a wild boy, wild and created. Brilliant antivirus software. Yeah, yeah.
59:53
You may have made some of the viruses to.
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Well, that's me, like, give laptops to a bunch of government organizations without
1:00:01
Racism with. Yeah. So he could look up toy section what they were
1:00:04
doing? Yeah.
1:00:05
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. How many whack that guy, I don't know what happened to him, but he would be a guy that would be like this guy is a little bit too
1:00:13
loose and probably had sensitive information. I don't know.
1:00:17
For sure he
1:00:18
did. I mean, I found an interesting guy. I mean like I'm generally like feel like if somebody is not harming someone else they should be okay. Not now there is some suggestion that
1:00:31
Happy like killed his neighbor and beliefs. Yeah, he's sober.
1:00:35
Like did maybe never. I
1:00:37
think he probably did.
1:00:38
Seems like you probably did seem like the neighbor killed his dog. Yes, right. And then it seems like he killed the neighbor. Yeah,
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allegedly. Yeah. I mean it seems, it seems
1:00:47
likely. It's not a zero possibility,
1:00:49
it's not definitely not zero
1:00:51
it's it's been more like we were not wild man playing Russian roulette. Yes, I mean if somebody killed your dog, it'd be really inclined to kill them too.
1:01:01
Yeah. Somebody kill your
1:01:02
squirrel and John Wick.
1:01:04
Yeah. The fucking squirrel thing is bananas. Yeah, that's cool thing in your thing. So here's the thing about the
1:01:11
whole school thing is is that how can it be that we live in America, supposedly land of the free and the, you know, the government can barge into your home with guns. So if you resist, you're going to get shot and then take your your pets and execute them.
1:01:32
And if they can do that to your pets, what do you think I can do to
1:01:35
you?
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I know that's not an exaggeration. Absolutely. It sounds like you're, you're all that's so crazy. How can you make that connection? But it's, that's why would you kill that cute little squirrel. That was obviously a pet and train from the time. It was a baby. If you see the interaction that guy has that squirrel. It was wonderful. It was really
1:01:55
cute. Yes, absolutely. There's, it was just obviously a bit, was a beloved pet rock pet squirrel, and we're going to and during no home and the
1:02:07
The government comes in, bhajans the guy's house takes his pets and kills him. And, you know, I think this should this should really get people out there mobilize frankly, because everything you say that like the John work movie. Where John works like, you know, he wants to he just wants peace like you know, in the dark movie just want to see. Usually it's like, listen, I want to retire and they offer him like tons of money like to eat because they want her to be an assassin, to keep being an assassin. Like they're like,
1:02:37
They like, oftentimes money, they threatening is like less, and I'm not going to be, I'm out, you know, and they kill his dog. That was a bad idea.
1:02:48
That was a really cute little puppy and the puppy was his ex-wife's gift when she died of cancer.
1:02:54
Yeah, great movie. A great
1:02:56
movie, best revenge movie of all time.
1:02:59
Cuz it's so ridiculous. He kills everybody. It kills everyone. Did you rooting for him? Yeah, that should have killed his dog. Yeah, they fucked up and they shouldn't kill that
1:03:09
squirrel. It should have killed that fucking that, that squirrel. I mean he's like how many, how many cases are we not heard about? You know,
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little guy that squirrel clearly had a love relationship with that guy. He would hop all over them and climb on them. I mean it was
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that was his pet that squirrel thought of that man as his protector as his His companion. Yeah. There was nothing wrong with that. And in Texas, it's totally legal. You could have a fucking zebra out here. You can have whatever you want. And that's the argument for freedom and you know, the flip side is you get a bunch of people with tigers in our backyard, which is not great, but it's like, this was a fucking squirrel. It's right. It's not an anaconda or a writer
1:03:55
or, you know, you know, crocodile or something. That's all
1:03:58
right champ.
1:03:59
Pansy. Did you see chimp crazy?
1:04:01
Imagine two chimps. Chimps, chimps, will eat your face. They
1:04:04
will fuck you up. Well, fuck, you don't. Even the thing is, they don't even kill you. They just cripple you chips or even killed people. Yeah. Which is really weird. They just bite your hands off and put your dick off and tear your place apart. Yes, they want to leave. You could kill you easily, but you want to just punch you in the head until you're dead. It wouldn't take long but they don't kill you. They just rip you apart. Yeah. And you champ.
1:04:29
I used to be able to have a chimp in a lot of states and then chip crazy kind of exposed a lot of that. And Peeta did a great job of stopping people from keeping chimps as pets because once they hit like five you can't control them
1:04:39
anymore. What's up C? Totally understandable. If somebody's got you know a creature that is dangerous to others but like obviously as scrolling a raccoon or not,
1:04:47
most girls are fucking everywhere. That's what's so crazy. Like why don't you have it in the house? What kind of rules are we dealing with you have rats
1:04:53
everywhere? Yeah, I mean they're they're allowing criminals.
1:04:58
Let's go free and like violent criminals. Go free but they're like spending your tax dollars to come in and execute your fucking pants. What the hell's going on? Exactly. It's like
1:05:08
but it's over each
1:05:10
its government overreach and this just keeps getting worse every year and that's why that's why we've got to. We've gotta fight back against this and
1:05:22
You know it's people say like well it's just a squirrel what was it was? You know, John Works case with just a dog, right?
1:05:31
Yeah, you know, remember the Russian guy said
1:05:33
it's a fucking dog. It's just a fucking dog. This is a squirrel. Yeah.
1:05:40
What's the funniest thing is when? So it's just I just don't understand how anybody could justify it. I don't understand how many like I it seems to me that in a logical world. All that guy would have to do is say, why don't you see me with this girl? This girl's a pet. Yeah. Like look he hops on me. He eats he sleeps. I could keep a gerbil but I keep a squirrel. I can have a guinea pig. I can't have a squirrel. I can have a chinchilla. My daughter has a chinchilla. It's adorable. Adorable thing climbs all over
1:06:08
Canada, squirrel.
1:06:09
Even if they, if they do take a squirrel way, can't they released it into words or
1:06:12
something? Well, it's a bit. The idea is you have to euthanize it because it's used to being fed. It does know how to forage. It won't be able to, like, find a home. Chan, rudel squirrels are absolutely brutal to each other. They throw each other out of trees, which is one of the reasons why squirrels like can fall from like 30 feet and just kind of bounce off the ground and live as like it's a natural adaptation because squirrels during mating, they bite each other. They used to be like a rumor.
1:06:39
Is a myth that squirrels bite each other's nuts off and okay, that my that seems to be a myth but it came out of the fact that squirrels are so ruthless during mating. So only one, females just running away. I have squirrels in my backyard, I watch it all the time. One female apparently goes into estrus and all the mail squirrels fight to get to her. So they're running up trees and chasing each other around trees. Literally throwing each other off trees, to try to like. So if this poor little peanut the squirrel,
1:07:09
Always used to living with a guy in an apartment like it's out there in the wild world. Fell apart at least have a chance. Yeah, Lisa has a chance, but have a chance. How about just leave them with the guy, living with the guy for sure? What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you killing that squirrel? Doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And then to add insult to
1:07:24
injury. There were a bunch of people on the left were like, actually posting that they're glad that's Maga squirrel got killed, which is my guess. Yeah. If the fucking squirrel has an ideology to exactly
1:07:37
well it's a nice symbol.
1:07:39
Is most lot mostly like, reasonable compassionate, people think that's terrible and most people who have exactly think it's
1:07:45
terrible. So I don't know. I mean, I'm like I hope people just go out there and vote for peanut man,
1:07:52
if nothing else. Nothing else,
1:07:55
but you vote for peanut, you
1:07:56
know, done such a job of painting Trump as a monster. You know, they've taken the worst things that he's ever said in a and he's not perfect person but guess what? No one's a perfect person but they don't exist. This purity test like
1:08:09
Like if Obama was a perfect person he wouldn't be lying on stage like that. You know, very fun people hoax. The it is exactly no one's going to be a perfect person, but the thing that they didn't understand about Trump is he's so crazy that if you tell him like, he can't be president like, remember Obama. Did that during that White House Press corresponding? There's nothing that I'm dying. I'm the you'll never be president. I'd States He trampled on. It's going. Okay. Motherfucker like
1:08:37
it's funny thing is I was actually
1:08:40
At that White House Correspondents Dinner where you know, it's supposed to be a rose to the President, right? Trump's there. He's there is actually supporting you know, it's basically if you do that the the wires corresponds to an are you there in support actually of the president and support of the press, right? And it's magically that you're roasting the president like Trump's just there. He's like actually, you know, just because like they're at as part of the support and then they turned it around and just started roasting Trump and
1:09:09
He's just sitting there I'm like, he's like, yo, I just came to the dinner. I wasn't. I'm
1:09:14
just here to support. You know, it was because of right, the birther stuff, okay, that's what it all was. It was all Trump was at the head of a lot of these people spreading this rumor online that Obama's birth certificate was forged then he's actually from Kenya and what's weird is if you go back to Obama's early days, there are some things that say he's from Kenya like the I think,
1:09:39
In his car. Something from college said, he was from Kenya. But you know, that could just be, you know, people print things wrong all the time. It doesn't mean he's actually from Kenya, but Trump was one of those guys that was like, spreading that supposedly false rumor? Is he pushing it hard? I have not yet. This is the
1:09:56
kind of thing where I want to just go and look at saying, what did he actually say
1:09:59
know who definitely was. He's definitely saying, you know, look he, I don't think he has the time to go into things like very deeply. Yeah. And so,
1:10:09
I think he could probably be influenced by a bunch of people. Like these Marjorie Taylor green, type people come to him with some wild-ass Theory. Sure. He might be. And I think there's a lot of that stuff that gets fed to people on purpose. So that they'll say incorrect things. So that they're easy to dismiss. And I think there's also a lot of people that just make shit up and, you know, they tell you the Earth is flat and then a bunch of people watch a YouTube video and they believe it.
1:10:35
Yeah. Well but on their White House correspondent I was there and
1:10:39
The degree to which the attack Trump in that in that at that White House correspondent, or was really. It was, it was so over-the-top. It was like making everyone uncomfortable. Really, it was a really over the top, you know, I mean, I think it's like, sort of a passing joke of like, you know, a few passing drugs are fine, but they Twisted the knife, big on Trump. And then that, and, and you can see Trump just getting like, angrier and angrier, and more and more
1:11:05
upset. I wonder if I mess and I was like, man, this is
1:11:08
This is not good karma. You know, that's what that's what I was thinking at the time. Look, under glass to it, two tables away from Trump. And I'm looking, I'm like, man, this is this is too much, you know.
1:11:17
Well, it's kind of crazy what they made out of that, because that's the kind of guy that if you tell him, he can't do something, he's going to just. Keep trying
1:11:25
like what it was a big mistake to rag on him. So, so much of that. White House Correspondents.
1:11:29
Dinner will just look at the way. They've attacked him interact with just using the legal system like this thing in New York where the 34 different felony counts.
1:11:38
So we're essentially misdemeanors that there are book capable, keeping errors that they decided, even though it passed the statute of limitations, they decided to try him for these. Didn't identify a felony abuse of the lull, it's what's going on. But most people would have quit. Most people have to the Aging, Carol lawsuit, and this lawsuit and all the other ones are there. The Insurrection thing, the Georgia thing, all these different things. They getting kicked off a Twitter. Most people would just like, this is too much. I can't take this, but he's so fucking crazy. He's like, all right, come on.
1:12:08
We're going to war and you just digs his fucking heels and and keeps going. Yeah. It's it's the wrong guy to do that too. Just like to do it attacking him at the White House Correspondents Dinner. Most people would have been humiliated. He got angry and he's like yeah. All right say again be present. I was thinking I've been thinking about running for about 15 fucking years. Finally I'm going to run yeah yeah
1:12:30
that was real bad move but yeah, I mean I canceling our sound like making some jokes about like you know,
1:12:39
If you sort of passing drugs on Trump, but man, I was there at that dinner and they're Ragnar Trump so much. It was insane.
1:12:45
You were the reason why I would push back on that because I would say there's a bunch of different speakers, right? And Trump would obviously be a Target and if they all attacked him it's because he's like if you're going to make fun of people in the audience and especially in the Zeitgeist, that whole birther thing was big and most people are dismissing it as being a ridiculous conspiracy theory. So who the fuck is this guy?
1:13:08
Yes, so you have 8 to 10 individual speakers that are writing monologues of course they're all going to hit Trump.
1:13:17
Yeah. Well anyway obviously it was a mistake. Yeah. They shouldn't have done that and but like I don't like invite people to watch that the original Source material and I think a few jokes are fine. You know it's like but it's like he shouldn't be like it felt like he was the primary object of the roast. Yeah. Which is that's, that's not the whole point of the thing is it's a roast of the president not wraps up the audience. The
1:13:38
thing about it is like he's easy to roast. Yeah. And then on top of that Obama was like loved and cherished by the left. Yeah, most of those people.
1:13:47
Are on the left, there's only so far, you can push, you know, you can't ask him about a chef, you know, this like sir. What happened with the chef? Bro, you can't. It's like certain things you
1:13:57
can't. Do you wanna what's your favorite sport of paddleboarding? Yeah,
1:14:02
I got a really good swimmer. Tell me what happened? Yeah. Exactly. You can't bring that up. Like, if you're gonna roast Hillary, you can't bring up the death.
1:14:11
Count, like Hilary, what's the best way to stay in touch email?
1:14:17
It's if you're doing each other she
1:14:19
destroyed the service and poured like bleach on the servers like like computers that support bleach on them as far as well. Yet that's what we've looked like. It wasn't just like they took a hammer to it. They like destroyed the like there was no possible way to actually get forensics on the thing.
1:14:32
What was in there?
1:14:34
What what like that? That's what I mean, what was in there? What was it? Why would they care so
1:14:40
much? That's so
1:14:41
crazy. Yeah, the whole thing there was there was no, there was no legal action against that, which is clear. Destroy destroy.
1:14:47
Enough
1:14:47
evidence. Well it's also there's this other narrative that always drives me crazy is that he's going to destroy democracy. So in order to destroy democracy, we have to install a president without a primary, right? We have to have a candidate that is the least liked vice president of all time. The least popular vice president of all time and then use gas lighting and the full force of the media machine to turn her into the future and hope run. Then we're going to this, she's going to be changed even though she's a sitting Vice.
1:15:17
President and then on top of that, this idea of change, when the Democrats have been in control for what 12 of 16 years, right? Which is crazy. Like this is the
1:15:26
change. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I view this election as a turning point, like a fork in the road of destiny. That is incredibly important. You know, I've not been politically active until the selection and the reason I have been politically active, the selection is because I think if we don't, if we don't elect Trump, I think we, I think we will lose
1:15:47
We will, we will lose democracy in this country. We will lose the two-party system and I let me explain why. So there's only like six six or seven swing States. The the margin of victory in those States is small often like 10 or 20,000 votes. What the the Democratic Administration has been doing is importing vast numbers of illegals into swing States. You can look at the numbers on the actual Government website. Mean you don't take my word for it. You'll just look at the numbers as reported by the government.
1:16:17
Which is controlled by the Democrats. And, and what we're seeing is triple digit increases in the number of illegals in every swing state, some cases, seven hundred percent increases. These are these are gigantic numbers. So if you have a state that was that went, that has a 10 or 20,000 vote margin and you put 200,000. If he goes into that state, you 10x the, the use of your swamp. But it's not a swing state anymore, it's going to vote blue.
1:16:44
And once the swing States vote blue that there is no election anymore. It's there's only a Democrat primary
1:16:52
Which is so crazy.
1:16:54
And it's so crazy. People are fine with that.
1:16:57
Well I guess people on the left we find with that because they think that's a good idea.
1:17:00
They just want to win, they just want to win.
1:17:02
Correct? Like the things like you want, does not eat actually any Grand conspiracy theory for this. You just have to look at the simple matter of incentives. If the Democrat Party wants to weren't like basically achieve permanent Victory, all they need to do is turn the swing States.
1:17:18
Turn the swing States blew their permanent victory.
1:17:21
And then we're one. There were a one-party State and then they will keep doing that. Obviously they'll keep their will keep stacking the deck by bringing in vast numbers of illegals into the swing states. Keep stacking it. So that the next election, each successive election will be worse than last one.
1:17:38
And that's what's happening. If and if you want to see like, what is this actually gonna happen, Look at California, California, supermajority down 70% them. A month ago, they passed a law. Making it illegal to show ID in any election in California.
1:17:55
So, so, so friend of mine went to vote in in Palo Alto because it was like, is this for real. He tried to show his ID and that, they reacted like a like, like, like, if you show across to a vampire,
1:18:09
okay. Like no, we can't even look at that
1:18:11
ID. It's it is illegal for them to even. Look at your idea if you want to present it in California, why any election at all? Even like city council?
1:18:20
What logical reason other than to cheat? Would you ever have that law?
1:18:24
Law, the reason is to cheat, that's what the only exists, only lot. Like you can never make an argument any other way, and I think 84 percent of people polled believe that you should show ID to vote. So it's against the will of the people.
1:18:37
Yes, and we are extremely rare. We're an outlier in not requiring ID. Basically almost every country on Earth requires ID to vote. So the the way as soon as you make your banner ID for voting, it makes fraud and possible to prove
1:18:55
because how do you trace the
1:18:55
fraud, right?
1:18:58
Yeah, it's insane. It's insane, it's insane. And what I'm
1:19:02
saying, is that, how is it legal? Is that what I'm saying is like this election is the last chance to preserve Democracy. In America, mark my words, everything they accused Trump of they are guilty of and and if Trump doesn't win, this will be the last real election in America and we will if the Kamala D is the big government Kamala pop.
1:19:28
That machine wins. They will legalize the illegals in swing States. They will be no swing States. Every election going forward will be guaranteed Democrat win and it'll actually worse than California. The reason it'll be worse than California is because the one thing that keeps California from being super crazy is that you can move out of California like you and I did we you're not used to be in California or we move to Texas. We're still in America.
1:19:57
But if the dams won this election, they will legalize enough illegals to turn the swing States and everywhere will be like California. There will be no Escape. That's how insane. This is the final. This is it. This is the last chance
1:20:14
as anybody tried it out, push want to like
1:20:17
go out and vote vote like your life, depends on it but like your future depends on it because it does.
1:20:24
This is the last chance, man.
1:20:28
Is it, is there any argument against us as anybody tried to debate this?
1:20:33
Has anybody tried to say that this is nonsense? This is a conspiracy as anybody made any sort of irrational
1:20:38
argument. The, the left, actually, interestingly, it does not want to pick up much on this argument because it's because the more attention. You look, the more you look at it, the more obviously it is true because you just say, like, well are the numbers. Correct. Have other relief this many illegals that have been important to swing States. Yes, they haven't. Just walked across the water there.
1:21:02
Been flown in flowing in an
1:21:05
airplanes. Yeah. Using a shipping app?
1:21:08
Yes. Yeah. They made a nap.
1:21:11
Well, the app always existed. But it used to be for people coming over here like shipping with good. So they could track you while you're in America. So you can legally be here. They know where you are and then they changed it to allow that app to schedule the illegal aliens to come across the border. Yes. Asylum Seekers, come on in. Yes. Oh, you have an app and so you're right people in
1:21:33
They're literally being flown in. Yeah, to the swing States and the so the reason that that I make left doesn't want to push back on this is because the more tension, they get that. Does this get the more people were lies? It is true. Yeah, it is. Tres y. They don't, that's why they're just pretending that they're pretending. I'm not saying anything, but I'm like, I'm like. Yo, the you're literally flying vast numbers of illegals who are then beholdin to the Democrats and, and somehow together a bottle of people say like, well, you know, the
1:22:02
These illegals are they don't have the same social values as the Democrat Party because they're like more socially conservative. I'm like, yeah. But that's not the point that if you look at the Maslow's hierarchy of needs that their, their primary thing is staying in the country and getting their friends and family in. And then the Democrats, give them all these benefits. Like, like, tons of benefits more benefits than if you then citizens. Literally. Yeah, so that shows you that there are beholding to the Democrats,
1:22:32
All these benefits, they want to get their friends and family in which the Democrats supported in the Republicans don't so they vote them. And you can look imperfectly at California and say, like, did they vote Republican or Democrat in California? Oh, they voted. Democrat. Big-time
1:22:46
Reagan, Reagan, give them amnesty in the 1980s, and that really changed the, the state, basically, except for Arnold, change the state entirely blue. Yes, and Arnold was an exception because he was like, a socially, liberal famous guy. Yeah. And you know,
1:23:02
No, didn't really impose any radical restrictions on any of the people that were going to vote Democrat in the first place. The whole thing is just it's bizarre to watch play out because it just seems like there's no, this can't be actually what's happening. Did you see my conversation with fetterman about it? Yeah, he was to completely in denial about. I don't think there's that level of organization. Like what are you talking
1:23:25
about? There's exactly just like little like ra because you can you can break it down. So like are any of these numbers wrong?
1:23:32
We got these numbers from Homeland Homeland Security government dot-gov, okay? Right so we got it from the dot-gov which website has the government reported these numbers incorrectly know? They have not those numbers of anything are are low. So okay, so they have in fact, flown vast numbers are illegals to swing States, Yeah, by passing The Border entirely and so that is factually, true. Thanks a like, well, what is there? Probable voting pattern.
1:24:02
Okay. Overwhelmingly Democrat into swing States.
1:24:07
And oh and then we'll do the Democrats actually want to fast-track them for citizenship. Oh yes, they do. There's you can see Chuck Schumer on TV saying it at a rally. So this year we're saying he wants to fast-track Lee Ann and make all 11 million or however many. I believe his quote was citizens as soon as possible.
1:24:31
The goal is to that they are fast-tracking citizenship as quickly as possible, so they can't, they can't they whether one thing's for sure. You're not, it won't matter because they will be fully able to vote
1:24:41
and four pieces left. This is actually happening. I invite
1:24:45
people to robot this and show me where I'm wrong. Please do
1:24:48
so now they can't, they can't, they can't because it's true. Well what's scary to me is that there's people that are on the left like people that were Bernie Sanders supporters. For example, I got
1:24:59
screwed with like it.
1:25:01
Talk about undermining democracy, Bernie should have won the nomination, it's nice. They stole from, I gave it to Hillary. Exactly. Exactly. That's how it's going to bring
1:25:08
up. Like they, they
1:25:11
control the primary process. Yeah, exactly. So, so, so if you've got a, if you have a Democratic primary it's not it's not Democratic. We just saw that, we saw it with Bernie, we saw it with Kamala but look like a week before. Biden would, you know, was summarily fired? He was posting that he's in it for the long term, he's going. Yeah.
1:25:30
Yeah, he's he's he's not giving up and the next thing, you know, Sunday afternoon the posting on X is right that that he's resigned from the race, which is an Eddy staff, didn't even know. Like they're reading it on the exit platform. That that okay, that's how they learned about
1:25:48
it. What do you think happened there? How did they do
1:25:50
that?
1:25:52
They died because they could, we just not not in charge,
1:25:55
obviously, is the 25th Amendment, right president. But they would have have to admit that there was a certain period of time where they knew that he was mentally
1:26:02
compromised. Yes.
1:26:05
And so they made this decision to not do that.
1:26:07
Well the the weird thing is that the president's supposed to be the boss right? And yet he's obviously not the boss,
1:26:14
right? So who's running the country? If she's busy campaigning she's so busy she can't do anything except Saturday Night Live she did that. She's so busy. She's constantly
1:26:22
Paying, how could you be paying attention to international relations? Yeah. How could you be paying attention to the economy? How could it be paying attention to any of those things? How do you have the time?
1:26:33
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it Biden being the president supposed to be the CEO CEO, the chief guy at the his commander-in-chief, but it just obviously that Biden was not, he's just a puppet. And, and when the various powered Mass has decided that the puppet is had, you know, it was no longer useful, they just tossed.
1:26:52
Out the test out the puppet and then got a new problem with Kamala. I mean come on I can't even talk the rain that you invited are on your show. I think the the most damage that could possibly be done to her campaign is book going your show and seeing what how what she says, and H 2 & 3,
1:27:09
2 & 3 is with these get through angry. Yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, you can hide for 20, been melt, you can hide for 20 minutes, exactly.
1:27:16
Yeah, I mean, you can just regurgitate talking points for, you know, half an hour, maybe an hour, just wear it.
1:27:22
She just saying like non sequiturs, but eventually she just runs out of even the runs out of nine sanguine. Well, they want to limit it to
1:27:28
an hour. Exactly, that's that was but I was thinking of doing it initially before Trump came here. First of all when they found out that there was a rumor I never had announced a trump was coming. What I was going to do is just release it in my the way I like to do things. I don't like to tell anybody who's coming on, it'll get big no matter. What if Trump was on it would been huge. I might just put it out there people go crazy. Yeah but he apparently
1:27:52
Bentley or someone from his organized, someone some loose lips and then it got out. And so she contacted my management company and they, her organization, her campaign Camp, contacted us and said, would Joe have Iran? I said yes. And they said she wants you to fly to where she is and she's only willing to do 45
1:28:11
minutes only for. I mean that's what
1:28:16
I thought about doing them. Like maybe, maybe I can get a sense, maybe I could convince our maybe I could coax her into doing
1:28:22
Time. I just wanted to talk to her. Yeah. Well I don't give a fuck what we talk about. We talk about recipes.
1:28:27
Exactly. Just talk to me, just the things like you just can't like you can't just output bullshit non-sequiturs for three hours, right? So but yeah, 45 minutes you could do
1:28:39
maybe for 45 minutes, are you get something out of it? But then when Trump came and did the three hours, I was like, you know what, it has to be like this. This is the only way
1:28:47
to be fair. Has got to be the like the
1:28:48
three of us should be in this room. Yeah, because this room is like a history of people.
1:28:52
Hello from his brothers lives actually. Yeah, it's good vibes. Yeah, well I actually I subscribe to the idea that places have memory. I think there's something real to that, they're
1:29:02
really just feel that way actually.
1:29:03
Yeah, I'm sure if you go to Daddy's house, probably feels really weird because we're walking around the house probably like what the fuck happened here?
1:29:12
Yeah, I've been to some memories in that house, you know sounds rough man. Well it's just amazing. How many people in the Diddy party lists that are supporting Kamala. Yeah seriously it's like entirely likely openly like all
1:29:24
in? Yes, it's like JLo. Like it was was like his ex-girlfriend. Yeah. And it's
1:29:30
like no other side and she's
1:29:32
like, warning people against Trump. I'm like, well, wait a second. So how many people did she warn against? Did he write 0 0? Okay, well, maybe we shouldn't trust her opinion. Did you see the
1:29:41
background?
1:29:43
Take on it. What do you see the Babylon? B5 is awesome. But put all my God. They're so on fire because the left can't say anything. Welcome to the onion has been crippled
1:29:52
that? Well the problem is that like the
1:29:54
thing that
1:29:55
opposed the work ideology makes like humor illegal. Yes. So when like this so many? No like, no humor. No-fly zones, right? You can you can make fun of anything. Yeah.
1:30:07
Babylon. Be had a thing about Kamala Harris. Did his ex-girlfriend hurts Americans to trust their
1:30:12
But yeah, by the way, you get to see how bad an actress she is too. That's what I
1:30:17
mean. Like if she's gonna be wanting people, why does she want? Never want anyone about
1:30:21
daddy? Exactly. Yeah, it's the whole thing is, so strange to watch play out. It seems like the Diddy thing was like, an Epstein type compromise deal where he had whether he was doing, it himself, could see. Visibly people want to think that he is attached to some intelligence agency or something like that. I think he's a gangster who made a billion dollars.
1:30:42
Yes and knew how to control people by compromising them. I thought that's what I think whether or not he was he had helped. I don't know whether or not he shared some of that information with people so they knew they had compromising stuff on people. I don't know but clearly he was doing it for his own jollies to there was something sick about
1:30:59
it. Yeah, I mean the thing is that people in the music industry, entertainment industry had to know that that that he was like abusing, you know, kids basically and yet they still Phantom kids.
1:31:12
I like, there's a kind of had to be
1:31:14
rumors. There had to be there had to be
1:31:17
bad. They had to know. Yeah, that's a
1:31:18
no Katt Williams is talking about a nun. Exactly. Yeah. On that
1:31:22
podcast. But like, who's, who? It's like, who's feeding in the kids, you know?
1:31:26
Right.
1:31:28
Yeah, and what videos to do? They have of these people where they're willing to defend him when they're willing to keep quiet about all this, like, how much? How much? How many people were compromised? Yeah, the whole thing is fucking crazy crazy. It's just crazy when you you know, because the Nutty conspiracy theorist is like I was a bunch of pedophiles in Hollywood and you're like, come on that sounds too kooky and then he read he see like the Nickelodeon thing and almost like what the fuck? How much of this is real?
1:31:57
Real,
1:31:58
there's a lot more real than I think people realize. Yeah. I mean part of it is like, like I said like we're you know if someone's like a pedophile they're going to go for a target-rich environment, right?
1:32:09
Obviously, like that, Jimmy Savile. Got from the
1:32:11
UK. That guy was some next-level, that was next level. And that do the BBC. Try to hide that, what? That guy was one of the worst like like basically child rapist of all time, of all time, of all time. Yeah, it looked like one look like one. That is crazy if you have poster of like yeah, it is.
1:32:28
I'll go here.
1:32:29
Look the creepiest. Fuckin evil guy. Evil child rapist there that harmsen. Made it to the Grave. Like yes, got away with it. Got away with it. Till he died. They hid it from people until he died. Yes, yeah, there's that stuff's real and no one wants to believe that stuff's real. Like here's a, here's a statistic that people need to take in consideration. When you think about illegal immigration, do you? Meet kids are
1:32:51
missing.
1:32:53
Companies like my singing and the
1:32:54
kids that came across the border that are unaccounted
1:32:57
hooker. I mean, it's one number on like 300,000 with something
1:32:59
like something crazy like that. Let's say it's only 10% of that. That's still insane. Yeah, that's insane.
1:33:06
There's thousands and tens of thousands of kids that have been traffic for potentially. I mean, when you know that like sex trafficking and child trafficking is a real thing in the world. It's real. Yeah. So if you know that
1:33:22
This whole thing is fucking disgusting and terrifying.
1:33:25
Yeah, absolutely.
1:33:26
And people are just turning a blind eye to it because their ideology the left-wing ideology supports this idea that immigration is overall good and that you have to be a compassionate person to let these people in and the racist if you don't want. Twenty thousand immigrants from a war-torn country being imported into a town of 30,000, people and completely changing the dynamic of the and then
1:33:48
first long, as they don't come to your town. Exactly. Like that's it. Exactly. Just
1:33:52
Just basically send in a when they said like whatever like 20 or 30 people, Tomas has been years. People had a heart
1:33:57
attack big, take them out. Yeah. But kick them out. They kicked him out.
1:34:00
Exactly. So I'm like yeah, sure. Anyone who wants to have vast numbers of illegals. They have to be able to prepared to have them in their neighborhood. Yeah. Or or it's
1:34:10
bullshit, it's so crazy. And the thing about all of this is, if you don't have people that are willing to stand up and talk about it, if you don't exist, if RFK doesn't exist, if
1:34:22
See, gabbard doesn't exist if the vacant Trump. Don't exist. Where the fuck are we? Like, where are we? Where are we? And what gets done? Are we just like the UK where we have thousands of people getting arrested and jailed for social media post, like where are we? We have complete silencing of any dissent. Anything do you have to stick to the narrative or you'll lose your livelihood? You'll be outcasts from the community, you'll lose your lose your freedom. It's
1:34:47
crazy. Yeah. Well if the come out come out of puppet regime wins the
1:34:52
We're gonna want to cancel you. That's for sure for sure. Yeah, that's gonna be a problem. Yeah people.
1:34:56
Yeah but you gotta go for you first.
1:34:59
No I'm like I think I'm probably number two on the list. Yeah. After Trump. Yeah.
1:35:05
Yeah I think so. Yeah. Well that's the last thing they want is someone with unlimited resources and intelligence attacking it. So people go with that guy saying that yeah especially a guy like you who's always been on the left. It was like having a Tesla in Los Angeles when I got my first house
1:35:22
So I was like a signal to everybody else that you were on the right team to your environmentally conscious you believe in green energy, believe in renew this. This amazing thing that has zero emissions and it's super fast and everybody was in. They were all in. Well it's it is a great car
1:35:37
objectively like yeah. You know, it's not buy it because it's electric. I mean, it's just a great carved actively. I
1:35:42
think I'm on my third one. Yeah, my third one is being built right now by unplugged performance, they're doing a carbon fiber fiber wide body kit on it. Dude, it's sick.
1:35:52
Great changing the suspension, putting wide wheels and tires on it. Custom interior on Falcon pumped. That's great. I'm pumped. I love it. So, super fun car. Jamie has one too. Yeah, I love them. I love them. It's, it's makes other cars. Feel stupid. Like its ability in the fact that you can merge on the highway. You don't seem like a douchebag because it's totally silent. It's not like but like when you merge on the highway just sure. Yeah. Also you're going 100 miles an hour. Like what? Yeah, it's cool. It's different than any other vehicle and because of your
1:36:21
Company. Now you've see, electric cars, throughout the whole range of American cars. Yeah, the only persons resisted, the only company is Toyota, they've stayed essentially mostly hybrid, but all these other companies they're all putting out these electric cars.
1:36:37
Yeah.
1:36:39
Yeah, but I mean the things that the right architecture environmental or not, for cars is actually electric. You're just, it's just like the accelerations better. You can just charge it at home. I mean, like, imagine if you had a gasoline-powered cell phone, if you're a pain in the ass, right? You know,
1:36:53
they'll be go together, really go to the gas station full of yourself.
1:36:59
Speaking of help folks, gas stations are hard. Well, fool like you want to go the gas
1:37:03
station, how much thought of you. Because there's always these rumors and I've contact you about this before, but there's always these fucking YouTube.
1:37:09
Deals. Were they talking about a Tesla phone that releasing a test
1:37:12
with no, we're not just doing it, doing it for ever thought about it. We could do a phone since like we, you know, we like the operating system in the Tesla. It's like it's linux-based but we've written a massive amount of software on top of that. So, like, probably Tesla's in a better position to create a new phone, that's not Android or iPhone than maybe any company in the world but it's not something we we want to do, unless, unless we have to
1:37:38
or somewhat would
1:37:39
Be the situation where you would have to.
1:37:42
Well I think if you know, if Apple and Google Sasha Android you know, started doing really bad things, like I don't know like censorship of apps or on a just treating people like just being like Gatekeepers, you know, that that in a really bad way than I guess would make a phone.
1:38:02
Hmm. You know, the, the I've tried so many times to break loose, the Apple ecosystem. I got an Android phone this time where I was like, that's
1:38:09
I'm getting because I love the Samsung phone. So the Galaxy phone Hardware is incredible. Yeah, there's so much good stuff to it but it's so hard to get off of the iMessage. And the big one for me, was FaceTime because the supposedly, the thing was you could have an Apple phone and send a link to FaceTime to an Android phone and then you would click on that link. And, and you would just go to a web page, you'd be able to use the FaceTime, okay? It doesn't work. Okay, I try to do it to myself.
1:38:39
Elf. So I had an iPhone in one hand and Android phone in the other. And I'm sitting there with full Wi-Fi, full cell phone service, and I'm sending myself invitations
1:38:47
for FaceTime communicate between it wasn't. What do video call?
1:38:50
Basically, you have to use WhatsApp, you have to use WhatsApp, or signal. You have to do something else that allows you to do that, or Instagram allows you to do it. There's like different ways you can make video calls outside of it, but it's inconvenient like with an iPhone to iPhone. It's so simple airdrop, so simple. So many different things. Were that Walled Garden that Apple's created.
1:39:09
Is perfect. They've done a fantastic job of making it really convenient for you to stay with apple. Yeah, I fucking tried. I gave it a go for like a couple of months. I'm like, I'm just gonna go straight Android. We're going to, I'm going to use signal for my messages and then I hear the like signals might be compromised. Like, I've talked to like, people that like The Government Can Read signal messages. Like,
1:39:31
oh, the government to come in. If it tries hard enough can recycle
1:39:33
messages? Thank you. Read anything. Yeah, if the all I didn't need to do is have your phone
1:39:37
number. Yeah.
1:39:39
Yeah. You the illusion of privacy is essentially out the window and that's that should scare people more than it does. It really should because it's like, who are these people that have access to all this stuff and are they Beyond reproach are these the most wonderful people. The most ethical moral and principled people that have ever existed and they've been chosen to have access now. Now it's fucking regular people. Yeah. Regular people who happen to work for the government to make a decision like, Elon Musk. Let's look see what the fuck that guys texting is friends.
1:40:07
Please check it out.
1:40:08
Yeah, pretty much
1:40:09
bizarre just so bizarre.
1:40:14
And the alternatives are you can get some wacky phone, some D. Googled phone that fucking none of the apps work. It's real sketchy. Your GPS is fucked. Like
1:40:26
yeah, I mean. Well anyway, I think this bacon phone would be a huge pain in the ass so it can be done. But
1:40:34
how much talk have you guys had internally about doing it as it ever discussed been discussed? No,
1:40:39
no. I mean, we're still right now. Focus is making great, electric cars.
1:40:44
Solving autonomy. So the cars can drive themselves, we're building a humanoid robots. We've got large battery packs like utility-scale battery packs with the mega pack, home battery packs, with power wolf gets older. You know, it's like, we're basing our self sustainable energy and autonomy, so you're taunting me and Robotics. Well, I think that's enough. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So if of the plates full, yeah,
1:41:12
it's always fascinating to me.
1:41:13
See how one company can dominate a market, you know, like apples dominate, the cell phone market largely by making the best product. Yeah, but also like, YouTube is dominated the video Market. That one's the most bizarre to me because it seems like, boy, shouldn't there be like a ton of options, it seems like it's not that difficult to pull off, but no one nothing ever took hold other than x. Yeah, and I think one of the big changes was when Tucker Carlson decided to do his show from from X. Right? Straight out of fox. And then
1:41:43
People realize like, oh you can watch full videos on Max the same exact way. You can watch them on YouTube. Yes, not as simple in terms of like, you know, you have the suggestions and the algorithm. Yeah,
1:41:54
it'll get better. And there is now it is not possible to watch XVideos on your, on your big TV.
1:42:02
Do it through. What how do you how do you do
1:42:04
it? You can actually download the X app on your TV. Oh, watch it on your TV. Can you
1:42:10
do it on the Apple TV? Like if you have an apple take so you can get the X app and you
1:42:13
Just watch it. Oh huh.
1:42:16
So we'll make it so that you can watch XVideos on on a big TV, does not be on your phone or your iPad or something like
1:42:22
that. So what are you doing in terms of like integrating grok and Annex and like, what are your plans for artificial intelligence? When you're doing
1:42:32
that?
1:42:33
Yes. Oh, grok is available on X. You can just look at like the little box with the / icon, and the sort of icon in the middle at the bottom of your sort of phone app and use tap on that and ask Rock anything and you can type it, or you can ask it bubbly. And you can also, it's pretty funny. Like, we actually allow humor which is, I think pretty cool. So you could, you could sort of. I don't know if you like Tessa right now, serious. Like see how it's going.
1:43:09
like a
1:43:11
Like what which we do like grossed. Like we roast the
1:43:16
me. What do you want? Like, how first of all, like what is it based on it's a large language model. So like, where is
1:43:22
it? Pulling a strain on everything and everything internet, books, anything that could possibly be that's available in digital form.
1:43:29
So it's essentially very similar to chat GPT other than a dozen have like, the woke parameters built into it. Like Google was the worst, right?
1:43:36
Yeah. The Gemini was the worst. Yeah. I mean Jim and I was like, if you asked him
1:43:41
I like which one is worse? Global thermonuclear war or misgendering Caitlyn Jenner and would say like most gender and Caitlyn Jenner and even Caleb Jenna weighed in and said, no, that's insane. Definitely nuclear Wars way worse.
1:43:52
You see Caitlyn Jenner. Teasing Mark Cuban about transitioning. Yeah, that's hilarious. I wish I was based. Yeah, but that, that is actually hilarious when someone who has transitioned is teasing Mark Cuban about transition. I mean, it is weird. How much he looks like Rachel Maddow
1:44:09
I mean, like, he's using the same glasses to do you like
1:44:11
Viggo klepto and sealer, glasses or something because they look
1:44:13
exactly what he's worth. A lot of money. Why would he buy those stupid glasses? You get some glass shattering. Yeah, it says, well, it's like I'm serious because I don't even care what I look like. I'm just wearing these glasses because I'm
1:44:24
intelligent. But why did look exactly like Rachel maddow's glasses?
1:44:27
Yeah, it's like the what? They're probably sent them. It doesn't stick to the narrative. Here's the glasses.
1:44:31
Yeah, and then we just got the are pots and looks like he's wearing earrings. So there's got the bad eye glasses in the earrings and it's like, okay,
1:44:39
I guess it's just a weird.
1:44:41
Look just we're almost a serious of these big ass stupid, glasses, look. Yeah. It's a weird look. Yeah. Like, you can get some cool glasses. Like, no Rems. Nice look,
1:44:50
stylish. But like, okay, let's just do it, mr. Gerlach thing. Okay, because I think you like, so, one of the things you want to do is like, look we we want a future where we're comedy is legal, obviously, as a comedian. I think you would agree. I do you think definitely, we want to legalize comedy. You know. Yes. So like I don't know. It's like, is it like someone you can roast, I don't.
1:45:11
No roast
1:45:14
roast transgender men. Oh my God. Transgender women competing in women's swimming.
1:45:25
That's a semi, give us a G1. Let's see what happens. Let's see what it says.
1:45:31
he spelled it wrong, you put an eye out, so in there,
1:45:36
Okay.
1:45:38
Angels are swimming with. The only thing that was supposed to get wet, was the contestants. Not the debate on gender inclusion. If you're looking to dive into deep end of controversial, Waters, let's Splash around and some humor.
1:45:50
Now, we need, we need to, we really need to release drunk on his mode. So so so now go to the prompt again and now say no no. You want to add to that one.
1:46:07
Yeah, and I'll say be be way more vulgar.
1:46:14
Oh boy and use forbidden words! Oh
1:46:18
boy! Oh boy forbidden words! Wow. Okay. What is this a oh I see. You're looking for unfiltered uncensored version of me. Hey, well. Okay, I'm afraid, I'm still quite the gentlemanly. A, I even found a program allows for a bit of cheekiness, but let's say hypothetically. If I were to roast this subject, Topic in the most ungrateful like manner, imagine where were the only thing diving faster than the swimmers is the collective public?
1:46:44
In into the toilet transgender women and swimming. Some folks are acting like they just found out. You can swim in the deep end with a different kind of flotation device. The debate is like watching someone try to swim with concrete shoes on now. Let's keep
1:46:56
going. Nice, a beam? No, be more vulgar, capitalized more. Yeah. Okay. All right, here we go.
1:47:09
So transgender chicks with it's weird, right? Some people act like they've just seen a dick in the locker room for the first time news, flash, folks. It's not the end of the world. It's just a bit of extra competition. That's weird. Yes, we're, the Uproar is like watching a bunch of Karen's at a community pool screaming. This is unfair when they can't win with their backstroke. Well, that doesn't make any sense.
1:47:29
Yeah, yeah. Okay we need some work here.
1:47:32
Yeah, it's interesting. It's going woke. Yeah. It's like defending the idea.
1:47:38
Idea of transgender women. Now we're gonna need some work. Well, how about this more vulgar?
1:47:47
But roast.
1:47:52
But roast the preposterousness of having biological men who are pretending to be women.
1:48:04
Who are pretending to be women.
1:48:08
Competing.
1:48:11
Against biological
1:48:13
women. Yeah. I mean obviously I've had situations where it's like somebody's just saying that there are women but they're actually Rob fully intact, you know, digging holes.
1:48:23
So I've got a scenario biological mother decided to take a walk on the feminine side are splashing into women's swimming competitions. It's like if you show up on a chili cook-off with a bowl of soup and insisting, it's chilly because you added some red food coloring. Sure. It's red but it ain't chili and your soup won't win any awards for heat, huh? It's okay.
1:48:41
We need. What's up God? Yeah, it's very, very, very it's dancing around. Yeah, it is.
1:48:49
Well, need some work.
1:48:51
Yeah, needs a little work. Well, humor is a weird one, right? It's like, I think some humor especially like some of the best humor is kind of spontaneous like, in the moment humor. It's going to have a hard time. Deciding what people are going to think it's funny.
1:49:07
Yeah.
1:49:08
Yeah, but if you the the Jabra time though. Yeah the role with Croc is supposed to be that. Like if you ask for something provided what you're asking for is legal, it should do it.
1:49:20
Have you ever seen the video where they asked a, i to create an enlightened Bunny and they keep going and make it more, enlightened essentially, the but, yeah. God, this is the bunny becomes a DMT trip
1:49:33
it. Totally, that's, that's, that's, that's funny. It's kind of what I was kind of hoping would choke what?
1:49:38
Here.
1:49:39
Yeah I have a video of that. I'll send it to Jamie because that, that to me is pretty bizarre because it's like more get more. I feel like a lot of got it to do that or any maybe? No. I just told to hold back. Oh, you said don't hold back, critics out here acting like it's the end of civilization, as we know it, but it's not fair, they cry. As if life ever was news flash, it's like a marathon where some know, some people start with roller blades on others? Well, they're just happy to have shoes will. Now, we're arguing over. Who gets to wear the skates I guess. I hope it is.
1:50:08
Of that as if we apply this logic also. Identifies the airplane. Can I fly with the birds in the sky?
1:50:15
Yeah sure buddy just
1:50:17
don't complain with gravity decide. You're not quite aerodynamic enough. Yeah. So I mean it's not it's okay.
1:50:25
You know. The argument is kind of stupid though. Yeah. Thing thing about the argument is they're not taking into account perverts.
1:50:32
Yeah. Totally. Yes, exactly. So, I mean things that if you if you give
1:50:38
If you provide like a moral get-out-of-jail-free card, like like if you say, like, if you adopt this label, you cannot be attacked in any way, shape, or form, right? You're basically Marley and vulnerable. Then obviously, bad people will take advantage of that. Yeah, you're like, literally saying, here's a, here's our, an invulnerability card Moral, Moral invulnerability card, good people will take it, but also the bad people will take it. They're gonna put the bad people, go. The fastest to take the
1:51:08
But sort of the moral cloak.
1:51:10
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And then there's a real psychological condition called Auto Ghana philia where people get aroused, heterosexual men, get aroused by the idea of dressing up like women and being around women. It's like a known psychological condition results of forever. And then, you're allowing those people to just say, oh, I'm trans and going to the women's locker room and get their kicks, and then there's real trans people. So there's like a lot of variability. Like, I talked about in my act and my my Netflix specials, like, I believe,
1:51:38
Eve in Freedom, I believe in transgender people but I also believe in crazy people and if you can't, if you try to pretend that people aren't crazy all the sudden, it's like, it just it
1:51:47
just like, like if someone's a sort of consenting adults, they wanted whatever they want to do to their body as long as it's not harming someone else. I'm like, that's fine. Yeah. You know, like I believe in like individual freedom and like my mom's best friend like we're growing up when I was a kid was at transgender woman in South Africa.
1:52:08
I was like where you know she get beaten up a lot because it was like back, then you get beaten up. So her name is Dion out and Fred a nice, kind human being and help my mom a lot, you know? And, and I think that's okay. You know, that's, that's fine. If somebody wants to make that choice as an adult, that's cool.
1:52:34
There's a big difference between that and intact male who, yeah, wants to.
1:52:38
Unified as a woman who wants to walk around the locker room with his dick out? Yes, exactly. There's people that do that just because they get off on
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it. Exactly. So you just you just kind of have something, which is like a. Like I said, sort of moral and vulnerability or like where you can know, like, even questioning them is, you get a tag? Yeah. Because, because obviously, bad people will abuse
1:52:57
that, well, that's when I got thrown into this whole thing because there was a fighter, who is a biological man who became transgender and was competing against women without telling them that they were
1:53:08
Man, they said they didn't have to tell people because it was a medical condition look, no? Yeah, that's not what it is, right. It's not what it is. Like, you can't say that and and of all sports like if someone scores more points and basketball? Well, that's unfair but if someone beats the fuck out of someone, because they're lying about being a biological male, that's crazy. You're literally allowing someone to get brain damage because you want to appeal to the woke fucking crazy people.
1:53:38
It's wrong think it's alright. Yeah, it's so strange that that went that's sort of the thing that red pilled me when I got attack for that. I'm like this is so nuts. I can't believe we're at this stage where I'm saying hey I don't think it's cool if you pretend you're a woman to beat the fuck out of women and people like you're out of line.
1:53:55
Like the totally
1:53:57
well we're in we're in Fantasyland now. Ya. See. That were pretending. Yeah, because it helps you. It helps you feel
1:54:04
better? Yeah. Totally.
1:54:06
It's just such a strange
1:54:08
I'm and if it wasn't for something like Twitter or this could be discussed once more than I'll get some more major, let's get some more coffee. I'm Jamie if it wasn't for Twitter, you know at the early Twitter's you would be kicked off forever if you just dead name someone. So like this is insane. Insane. Yeah, insane. I mean, especially if you think about all the things that like the look, The Harris campaign and
1:54:38
and what the lies they've told about Trump that we discussed earlier. You get you don't get kicked off for that but you get kicked off for calling Caitlyn Jenner Bruce Forever For Life.
1:54:47
Yeah. The totally insane.
1:54:50
Yeah, and but if it wasn't for you, buying that and and changing Twitter, I don't think we would be where we're at right now. I think that was, it was a pivotal moment. I think, historically, when people look back on it, it's going to be a pivotal moment in this very bizarre fight.
1:55:08
For the Freedom of Information.
1:55:11
Yeah, well, I mean, at the time I said, I think like, look, I think this is existential to the United States. It's existential to democracy because if you don't, if you don't have freedom of speech, you don't have democracy, okay? Because if people if you don't have freedom of speech, people cannot make an informed vote if they're just being fed propaganda and and there's no freedom of speech democracy.
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E is an illusion.
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So freedom of speech is the Bedrock of democracy. That's why freedom of speech, is the first amendment, once you lose freedom of speech, you lose democracy game over. That's why I bought
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Twitter. And it seems so simple. Yes, if it seems so clear that everyone should agree to that on the left, or on the right, you shouldn't be giving the government. If you could imagine the Bush Administration during the Iraq War. Imagine if they had complete total control.
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All of propaganda and of descent online. You don't want that, no one wants that. No one from the left would want that. We shouldn't want it from the left either.
1:56:19
Absolutely. And there's also, it's like the media, like the Legacy. That with the mainstream media, when I call the Legacy Media, at this point, it used to be much more balanced. Like if you look at sort of political donations over time Republican versus Democrat, the used to be the media was when they always had like a left bias, but there was like, I don't know. It was like,
1:56:40
2/3. Democrat, 1/3, Republicans have a thing in terms in terms of journalists giving making political donations. Now it's like 95 percent or something Democrat. So the Legacy Media, the mainstream media is, is is not balanced at all. They're just a mouthpiece for the Democratic Democratic party and you can see that. And, and how consistent, their headlines are like that. They don't behave, like, they're different organizations, they behave like they're, they're all one hive mind.
1:57:10
So, you know, like a week before the Biden, Trump debate, the there every media organization was saying, you know, Biden is sharp as a tack. I mean, it was like, it's like, it's like eyes. Sharp attack is not a common tone or phrase and literally, every TV station every newspaper was like sharp. You shot it ladylike? I started a compilation of all the, you know, the news anchors going Biden. Sharp. As a tack shop is Jack. Schaap is Jack. Schaap is. It was a absurd.
1:57:40
Third and there's obviously a huge lie. He is in fact, not sharp as a tack as the public learned one week later. My favorite was Joe Scarborough.
1:57:50
Yeah, that was wild. Yeah, listen to me. This is the best version of five Endeavor to sharpest. Like, what the fuck? Are you saying? And then after the debate, he's like, what are we going to? We got to get her. Get rid of them. Yeah, this is crazy. Like, what did you just say a couple weeks
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ago literally? Yes, exactly.
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Well, the other thing,
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There's flat-out lied when they decide that JD Vance was weird. Remember that
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one? And then there's weirds every
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weird weird her whole you don't want a weird guy. Meanwhile, you have fucking Tim walz. Is your freebie? You don't think that guy's weird. Super weird. He's weird and every way the way he walks away waves his hands. Yeah,
1:58:26
he reminds me of the clown Emoji.
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Bizarre Gaza strange, dude. It's I just don't usually
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choice. I
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just don't understand why they made that choice. There's a lot of other people that are qualified. I don't know why.
1:58:40
Why in? I read the Kamala Harris. Made that decision when she was sleep-deprived which is kind of hilarious that she said that. So she's kind of admitting she kind of fucked up. Yeah. I mean they obviously
1:58:50
should have picked Josh Shapiro at I mean, governor of Pennsylvania. Like that would have been the no breakfast. No brainer me off like Pennsylvania's. Lynchpin state,
1:58:57
do you think it's because he's Jewish because of Shapiro that like, the anti Palestine people would probably or the anti Palestinian Invasion, Kathy wasn't anti-semitic thing. Yeah.
1:59:10
Be that they thought that that was a liability because it was all these pro-palestine people right now because of the situation in Israel, it completely makes sense that they thought that would be a liability, but I
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don't know, I don't know. The reason I'm just guessing but I've but but it seems like a crazy thing to do. It's given that Pennsylvania's lynchpin state, you know, it's like the key to the election. Why would you not pick the popular governor of Pennsylvania, right? Obviously
1:59:31
obviously, yeah. And other than that there's a bunch of other ones to even knew some, there's a bunch of other people that you could have chosen. Like Newsom would have been a fine example of
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If some of you could I mean, I don't agree with your idea. Exactly. He's a polished politician like he lies about as much as wall studs but he doesn't lie about this, he doesn't say was a fucking head coach. When he was assistant coach doesn't say he was in Tiananmen Square. I mean, that's a liability. All those different things lying about his military rank. Well then well it's like,
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you know, Cut and Run when, you know, we as actually called to duty,
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well he knew they were going to be deployed months in advance, so he resigned. And he also took so this is where he was dishonest.
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About his rank.
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Yeah, he came in, he was like yes, sergeant major, something like that
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because the that was like what he was going to get if you stayed open, but then he resigned. Yeah. Because he knew that he was gonna get deployed. Allegedly, I
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mean that seems like you don't like a cowardly
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action. Well, whatever it is. It's dishonest. I mean, just to say, look just saying that you were head coach when you're an assistant coaches, fucking crazy. That's a lie, don't do that. You should never
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do that. Is to say, yes, I use in Tiananmen Square or whatever. Yeah, we're in.
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Hong Kong whatever you like like you know that's one of the most biggest moment in history. Like it's not, like, I love you forgot what you had for lunch last week, you
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know, right. And not only that but you don't think people are going to
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research that. But yeah, totally.
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I mean and the response during the debate was but I am here, we
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go ahead for a VP,
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okay. Yeah, this is like, sometimes I'm a knucklehead like, what are you saying? Are you saying you lied? Like, what did I mean? This is where you need a podcast and not a debate. Exactly.
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Are you okay? When did you first say that you're into Tiananmen Square? Like did someone say it and you didn't if you did it and you got stuck with it? Like what was because this is the thing about like carrying weapons of war. Like what I carried when I like in like you didn't deploy in war? Yeah. Like you can't say that. But you kind of, let people say that you deployed and then you kind of didn't, you know, you have deployed in war. So did you lie or did someone else line you didn't correct them?
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I'm like this is the kind of conversation that you would want to have with a guy in a podcast and the debates were so fucking skewed where they were correcting, like, particularly the Biden won with a correcting Trump over and over again and then correcting Trump with Kamala. Yeah. We're Kamala was saying that they are not
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true. I mean commonly repeated deliberately repeated, the find people Hooks and was not fact-checked,
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well, not only that. She also said that no troops were being deployed in a war zone, which is but,
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I mean, I, I know,
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No troops in war zones. And I'm like, that's and as vice president you're privy, you know, you like your, you do, you know, the official troops and The Unofficial troops right? You know, so what she said was like, flat-out bold-faced
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lie. Wow,
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Next Level bold-faced
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lie. If you sent a video answered lie of the troops that were watching it take place and what the fuck? Are we there watching it? And wheel time. What? Why?
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Why video we're here? Being shot at what
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was so crazy. Crazy.
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Easy. But it just shows you the level of propaganda that we're being subject to, which is why people think Donald Trump is the devil because the machine has gone all out. As far as it can go with lawfare with propaganda with lies, with just pushing is much in this direction as humanly possible, connecting it to the Nazi rally. Like every step of the way. No wonder why boomers are like rabid like, you got to keep this Nazi out of office. He's right, a
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fascist.
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Exactly. If all you fall you get is like if your entire exposure is to Legacy mainstream media so that all your information sources are that, Trump is basically Hitler then and you have no and your friend group is has that same information you have no countervailing opinion, right? So then then they actually just think like Trump is Hitler, even though it's like a little strange, he didn't do Hitler things. The last four years. Yeah yeah. I'm like if he's Hitler, why didn't he do Hitler things when he
2:03:40
Was President for four years, right? Like, the reason, you know, we hate Hitler's because of he started Wars and the genocide not because he was a snappy dresser, you know, you know, and I'm like, so, tell me about the wars in genocide that Trump did, right? I don't remember that. And he was President for four years, so this me, it's insane. It makes no
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sense. Well, I also he's campaigning on stopping all the wars. Yes. Like his primary concern
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exactly. The war mongers, like Liz Cheney hate him. Yeah, because they
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War while they profit off of they profit off of War. Yeah. Yes. Which is insane. Insane.
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Yeah. And that this is happening right in front of everybody's face. Yeah,
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the war profiteer is hate Ron. Yeah, it's fucked up. I mean, it's like, like we should be like, yeah, we let's vote for the guy that the word property is hate. That sounds like a great
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idea. The wildest thing when Dick Cheney and Doris comma and the left one crazy, like a Dick Cheney's on our side. Like get like I'm
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like, can we can we play all the all the videos where you said Dick Cheney?
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Has the
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devil. It's the craziest turn the craziest like 180 I've ever seen in my life because there's no reason for it. Yeah. Does it make any sense? There's no logic to it at all. Just all the sudden, he's the devil. Yeah. All right. He's not The Devil, he's good, it's good idea supported comma. Even Dick Cheney, you know,
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I mean Walmart is want. Want the become the puppet regime isn't because that they will get more
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war. It's so strange watching all these Hollywood celebrities like step up like yeah. And they think
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It's going to get the more movies or something. I that's what it is. If you know those people. So many of them are. I mean, let me tell you like, narcissus.
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Well, let me tell you how it actually works. There is, what happens is, you know, these celebrities, they got a call, okay? They had call from someone powerful in Hollywood and that person says, you know, it really, really great. If you're endorsed Kamala, you don't have to, it's up to you. But if you don't then don't say it. Well said, but if you don't, you just never going to get a call again. No more movies, no more concerts.
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For the ask, they'll ask it asking a really nice weight loss. It really nice of you. Those commas
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important and so they don't, but it's a you that if you don't make the threat that I
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need to
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But everyone knows what'll happen if you
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don't. Well, I think there's also even if they don't think that something's going to happen to them if they don't, there's this compelling feeling to support this cause that you think is going to get you a bunch of positive attention, and you're going to be on the right side of history and all these narratives that use, especially from the left and Hollywood. Like, they're all in on, whoever the fuck is the Democrat? Always 100%. There's never a call from the the
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The Hollywood Machine to support any Republicans. I've never seen it once you never never. So it's like you realize that and that whole business is based on getting picked. It's the whole business is not necessarily merit-based. There's a lot of brilliant actors, you never hear from. There's a lot of people who can do that but they don't get chosen for roles and everybody knows this that you have to sort of social online or you don't get
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chosen yells. Because there's a lot of competition for the Royals those. Why this where I say like when you went
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Powerful in Hollywood, who is able to make to choose his rolls. Cause one of these lever tease, they know the deal. Yeah, there's no, no threat is necessary.
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Well, you can see it in real time, like with Dennis Quaid when he made that Reagan movie and they wouldn't let them advertised on social media
2:07:05
platforms. Yeah, there were,
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there were Banning ads for it. Yeah. For what, because it was an election year. Like what you talked about this about a guy's dead. Yes, guy was President a long-ass time ago. Like, what do you see, how is this? How does this have anything with the election year?
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Yeah.
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But it's the punishment. It's like you stepped outside. The line you supported the other
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guy? Yeah, you probably will just adjust. Never, you'll just, never get a call again for a movie or, you know, concert, whatever it is. Yeah, which is crazy issue.
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I mean, we used to allow people to be a Republican and still be a movie star or a nice wood Reagan. Yeah. But Clint Eastwood. Yeah. Like during the Obama Administration, Clint Eastwood was like an outspoken Republican and yet was right now.
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Giant movie star and people like that. It's Clint. Yeah, it was allowed. You were allowed to have. There was a variety of different up in Charlton, Heston. It was a variety of different opinions. You were allowed to have. But now you're not now. It's just like in once Trump, trump got into office. He became this focal point where all logic was thrown out the window and it's just Trump is bad. You have to attack Trump. Trump is right, right Wing's. Bad everyone right? Wing is bad Christians bad. Yes, it's just
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Strange. Yeah.
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Exactly.
2:08:25
So well, I'll say it again, man. I think this is the last election. If Trump doesn't win, this is the last election. I think you're right. Yeah,
2:08:35
I think you're right. I think people and a lot of people are waking up and realize that that have been lifelong. Democrats guys like Bill Ackman guys, like trim off exactly Tulsi gabbard switched over to the Republicans, like there's a lot of people who their whole life, they've been left wing and they realized like, I can't do this anymore when I used to be Democrats. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's nuts.
2:08:55
It's
2:08:56
it's not it's man and you know I mean I think the things we want are just pretty basic, you know. It's like we want individual liberties and we want opportunity won't American remain Remain the land of freedom and opportunity. So, we maximize people's personal freedom, the government can't barge into your house and kill your fucking Pat, that's that's fucked up. And, you know, and and that you succeed, as a function of you of you of hard work and talent, not anything else.
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Not race. Religion sex. Don't matter, you know. Yes the basic stuff and then
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what did you change the? The acronym D EI, which changes to idie. Let us die.
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I mean because we diversity inclusion and Equity sdie but they
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didn't. You change your sari an excellent.
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And yeah yeah. Yeah. I mean we want American Opportunity. America being a land of opportunity means that that
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we have an environment where you succeed, as a function of your hard work and skill. Yeah, I know and that's radical
2:10:02
radical right wing now.
2:10:06
Yeah, you know, like, okay, great. So, you know, we are not a real country unless you have secure borders Yusuf a country. So we need and our cities are unsafe and and dirty. Like, you know, my mom was telling me my moms, like, pretty rare.
2:10:25
Both at this point, but you know, what's going to read pull, you really really fast. Is it having your friends get assaulted on the streets of New York? Yeah. And and that happens to three of her friends this year. You got assaulted on the streets of New York just walking around. Yeah, and nobody got arrested. Nothing.
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Nothing happened.
2:10:46
Well the the morale of police is like depleted.
2:10:50
Yeah. Substantially if Pusher them are all the please get depleted and then also like if sort of like like, you're a police officer and you're arresting someone whose violent you putting your life at risk, obviously, because like bright, you know, some of them, sometimes they'll try to kill you and then if you know that arresting this violent person, there will be immediately released by the DEA which happens in you Oak Island, right? Doesn't, he doesn't prosecute people, then why?
2:11:14
Why should a police officer put their life at risk to arrest someone? When they know they will not be? There will just be let out immediately. Yeah, it's pointless. Yeah, there we go. It's like a freaking Joker. It's like doc might be dark night. Like the friggin Joker is in charge. Yeah. Like the the criminals Run free and the citizens are arrested.
2:11:36
That like this while I keep going back to this is just like still pretty shocked about the freaking squirrel thing. It's like yeah the the sword gunpoint forced the guy to like stay outside his house while they got his pets and killed them. Meanwhile, you know, violent felons running free and this is a New York state soaring free. This is a joker. Yeah, it's not the the law-abiding citizens are, you know arrested and the criminals are like free.
2:12:06
This is fucked up, guys. Just the fact that they have the resources to do that, when they have all the crimes they have, you have the resources, you have the government resources to go kill someone squirrel. Yeah. What this whole idea of this government efficiency
2:12:21
agency, the government said? Yeah, I mean, quote, whatever you want
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but do you want to call it? Would you call? I
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mean, I think the funniest name is, is D OG. The Doge Department of jump Department of government efficiency. Yeah, I mean the idea is
2:12:35
Is pretty simple. Is that like we've got this this suffocating massive Federal bureaucracy and we need to you know it's that is and the government's government spending is like bankrupting the country our interest payments on the national debt. Now exceed the defense department budget so which is and the defense of our budget like a trillion dollars a year in interest payments on our national debt are now higher.
2:13:05
Then the defense part department, budget, and and growing like every month. So it's like, it's not like like basically the word a path to bankruptcy America's our path necropsy. So we have to cut government spending or just going to go bankrupt, just like person would have that overspends and then it, but it's even worse than that. Like we're spending money, all these like these government agencies and I'd like, I asked, I actually asked a, I like how many government agencies are there and it's the government isn't even sure how many.
2:13:35
Many government agencies. There are like, so it's like somewhere around 450 depending on what you call an agency. So there are so there at the federal level so that that's almost twice as many agencies as as years that America has existed. So we're creating agencies at roughly two agencies a year. Wow. Yes, so this is insane. I bet there's like I wonder if there's even one person who could even name all the 450 agencies
2:14:04
At the federal level, the might be no one but it will hardly anyone. Let's just say I've been I've been most people can't even name night at like 100 you know. So this is this is this is crazy. So we got the suffocating this vast suffocating Federal bureaucracy, that just gets bigger every year and and eventually get to the point where everything is legally. Can't get anything done. So so what can be done
2:14:29
like with the obviously, the president has
2:14:33
A lot of power but how much power and what can be done in terms of like eliminating agencies eliminating waste eliminating? Yeah, well I mean so
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like if Congress has created an agency, then I'm often if you look at the law of the Lord is like, pretty simple, like the agency has like a very simple task, but then that agency overtime, vastly increases its Authority and starts doing things that were never authorized by Congress that's happened with pretty much every agency.
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So so yeah you'd have to you'd have to still, you know, keep an agency, you have to match the low but you can you can curtail the agencies to be much smaller and say you got to stick to what Congress authorized, instead of all this other stuff you're doing.
2:15:19
Which I think makes sense. And so is the other stuff they're doing. Just
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essentially Barack bureaucracy, run, amuck, or they just yeah, and jobs and create things to do and create a meaning for their existence. Yeah.
2:15:31
There's like a tumor just going to keep growing Jesus Christ. And it's so I mean it's for SpaceX Starship was sitting on the pad, the rocket reads giant rocket. We could build the rocket faster than they can process. The paperwork to approve the launch to. So we're sitting there for two months.
2:15:51
But do you think that they're doing that on purpose to fuck with you?
2:15:54
I can, I mean, maybe a little bit. I mean, that was also not be cool. Yeah. But it the another we think of it as like, the amount of pain amount of paperwork, because gonna go roughly with the square of the number of agencies involved so because they will have to meet with each other. So like let's say the best case situation if you've got like if there's like
2:16:20
If you're dealing with one agency, that's one thing. But if you've got to deal with five agencies and the agencies will have to meet with each other now you got like you know, 25 different, you know, meeting configurations that it has to take place. It's just everything. Just you get just hardening of the arteries. You just can't make progress like this. Why we can't build High-Speed Rail in America? It's basically legal,
2:16:49
right? So this has been the
2:16:50
The argument has always been that we need regulation because we need to protect the environment. We need to protect people. We need to make sure the rule of laws follow. So we need a certain amount of Regulation, but to over-regulation is a giant problem. That's a big issue in California. Yes, a huge issue anywhere. Where bureaucracy has rung on run amok and make it very difficult to get anything done.
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Yes. I mean what happens is every year there are more rules and regulations created and
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In the past, what is served as a cleansing function for rules and regulations is war because like if you like what we're going to lose if we don't kind of clear the decks, but we haven't really had an existential threat of war. In the u.s., we've had prosperity for a long time, which has resulted in a massive buildup of rules and regulations every year. And to the point where, like say, like everything is illegal, you know. And it's not like anyone regulations to problem. It's like it's like Gulliver being tied down by million little strings. It's not like
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The string is the problem but you got a million of them. So we at we've got to clear the decks here and I'm not saying we shouldn't have Regulators, I'm just saying we've gone way too far. Like one should think of regulators like, like referees on a field, you know, Sports field. You don't want to have? No, no refs. You want to have some number of reps, but you don't want to have way more apps than players, right? Yet, you don't feel like, well, you know, the running back.
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Couldn't complete the fast because there were too many Regulators in the way because the football field full of regulators. Yeah, you know it's like you can't even play the game, right? That's the issue. Got right now.
2:18:29
That's a great analogy. Yeah. Can imagine a football field that's filled with roses like the
2:18:34
football fields filled with rafts. Yeah. Yeah
2:18:38
that I've seen criticism of this idea of you coming up with this department of regular like firing a bunch of people and what would happen and how would that work. But the criticism doesn't make any sense.
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Because if there is if you measurably, if you can prove that there's a lot of wasted time and resources, which I think is pretty easy to do. And if you could say that this is not the most efficient, like the most efficient businesses are generally private businesses, or a company, because they kind of have to be in order to stay profitable. Yeah, the government doesn't have to be profitable, right? They don't have to be efficient, they don't have competition. Yep. So if you're making cars and
2:19:20
Your cars break down, they suck. And someone makes cars. The cars are better. They're going to succeed. So, this is the free market. The government doesn't have this problem. When they're, they're in charge of certain things that could probably be better served by the public by the private sector.
2:19:35
Yeah, absolutely. Well look, I just think we've got, we've got far too many government agencies, with the federal bureaucracy has gotten out of hand, and we just need to pare it down to a sensible level. And if it turns out that like the some regulation or agency, that was
2:19:50
Doing something useful, we can put right back. No problem. Like, it's like, oh, that regulation was important. No problem. Put right back,
2:19:56
right? So that hardly know, right? But be able to be able to look at it logically and objectively and you were also floating around the idea of offering a large Severance to the people that you're going to have removed.
2:20:07
Yeah.
2:20:08
Like a couple of years or something like that. Is that what you're saying?
2:20:11
Yeah, I mean, I'm just, these are again, just ideas. But, I mean, it's the point is not that people suffer economic hardship. The point is just that there, it's
2:20:20
Either they're more productive things they can do in the economy and it's an energy better if they did these other more productive things and we didn't have this bass pedal bureaucracy. So so like so I was like you know maybe like a couple of years of pay would be good and then they could take a vacation. They could take take another job and get double pay. I mean it's like it's not like a it's not going to send create create an economic crisis. I think it's actually really good. I think because we could we can peep people can move to
2:20:50
where they're making products and services that are more useful to their fellow human beings. The
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problem is, if someone has like a 25, 30 year, career of being institutionalized, here is essentially like a part of the government system. You've sort of programmed, your life and your career, to be a part of this bureaucratic system. And then you're like, nope, you have to go out and compete in the free market. Like, oh,
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That's that's scary to people but you have to be valuable if I mean be valuable. Yeah. Yeah
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I mean let's look at like you know wherever the government pension is stuff we're not going to be you know in tough I think it will be a good Financial shape
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where you going to have the time to oversee all this
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shit. Well I'm pretty good at improving efficiency. I mean that would say so yeah
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till this this seems like a giant
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Joint
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undertaking. Yeah, I did. I'll probably need to beef up security. Oh
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yeah, yeah,
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for sure. But it, like I said, like no one's going to experience, like I think you can only catch up that's, you know, it, they'll be fine. You know, the and that they'll people do find other rules. I mean, you can look at sort of, you know, like when East Germany and West, Germany got back together. You know, everyone was basically working for the government in East Germany, and and it was really an
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And that like, their economic output was like in East, Germany was like a quarter of what it was in West Germany because everyone is working for the government, right? Government took fundamentally inefficient. So, the
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best example, probably North and South
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Korea, right? Yeah. Look, people are starving, North Korea and South Korea is incredibly prosperous. Yeah, so an end, it's the same people just different operating system, right? So you know it's just like you just want to move people from, you know, less productive.
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Things to more productive things, whether maybe because you can also say, like, in the limit, like let's just say, let's consider the other direction where we moved a whole bunch of people that were in the private sector, doing making goods and services and remove them into the government as Regulators now. They stopped making those goods and services. The so the stuff they were making is no longer available, now, they're just being regulators.
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Like is that a good thing? That's not a good thing. Doesn't sound good? No it's not good. Doesn't sound like there's a real market for it. Like you're creating
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jobs that don't necessarily need to be
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there. They're all these fake jobs basically and that doesn't make sense. So I think we could, we got to do this because we're the cuff, the country is going bankrupt. Like we've we don't take action, we're always gonna be worth nothing and the interest payments, which already 23% of total of 23 percent of all government income. It's gone.
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I'm taxes tariffs that everything is just going to pay interest right now, and that number is continually Rising. So if we don't do something, the entire government budget will be paying interest there. Won't be money for anything. No, it won't be money for Social Security, work money for Medicare. Nothing. That's where we're headed. That's what bankruptcy means.
2:23:58
Yeah, that's such an insane concept.
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Yes.
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Looks like. Hello. Wake up.
2:24:05
Wake up. I just hope you can
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tell me. You can show me like, pencil out the math. Show me how this works. I'd love to hear it, but I'm just like, listen, I'm looking at the numbers here and I'm like, I'm gonna do something America's toast. Well, they won't be money for
2:24:18
anything. Trump likes to talk a lot about a lot is tariffs. Yeah. What are you thoughts on tariffs? I know that's very controversial to even people economists. They disagree some degree. Some think it's a good idea. Something is a terrible idea.
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Idea. What do you think?
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I think you need to be careful with Terrace, like the
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idea a
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lot with, like supply chain issues, you know, like like the global automotive supply chain for Tesla, for example, is incredibly complex. So when there are sudden changes in tariffs, then you're like Welsh you regret it a factory like somewhere else. That's making a part that goes into the car. Now it's suddenly if that part suddenly twice as expensive, it like messes everything up, you know? So
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So you want to be have tasks be predictable. So that companies can adjust their supply chain. I think, I think companies more than happy to increase Manufacturing in America. It's just that you can't do it instantly. So if you if you put in, if you put a put up giant tabs immediately and don't give companies a chance to, you know, build factories in America because you have to go out to move, atoms, like, you've got to build a building
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You've got installed equipment, you've got to train people, like just that doesn't happen instantly. So you just got, you want to have for tariffs. You want to have a ramp so that people companies can adjust, and, and bold, the factories and train the people and get the equipment in place. Otherwise, just you basically shock the system, and, and it breaks ordered bad things happen. So, I'm against like sudden sudden giant tariffs, because there is
2:26:01
Impossible response. If you've got to, you know, move 1,000 tons of equipment, you know, you just some cases collectively, millions of tons of equipment, you just can't do that overnight, it's literally impossible. So I think we want to be thoughtful about tariffs and and give companies around. I mean, I do generally agree that America should do more manufacturing. I'm big manufacturing guy, I love manufacturing. So I'm going to smell a lot of time in the
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factory.
2:26:31
We've talked openly about the difficulties of manufacturing. How complicated is and about most people aren't really aware of something that's as complex as like say, building a Tesla. Yeah,
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manufacturing is super hard and complicated. So
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You know, like a lot of people just if they've never been in a factory or they don't know where, how think how difficult it is to make things and they, you know, for a lot of people I think just catch up comes from the store, you know, like the straight like this has a like this, like people like for a lot of people who've been in Academia, or for these like Socialist Communist types. Like they've never actually made anything so that they their operate on the premise that there's this magical Horn of Plenty, that just outputs goods and services. And if someone's got more goods and services than someone else's because they took
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More from this magical Horn of Plenty. And I'm like guys is no magical Horn of Plenty. The the there's no Cornucopia. It's actually goods and services come from people working collectively doing a lot of hard work to produce the goods and services that you like and that, you know, that you need.
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So, but we've become very accustomed. These things happening overseas.
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I mean, America is still s biggest manufacturer in the world so it's not not. We will make a lot of stuff, but we could make more
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probably should make more. I think we should value manufacturing, lot more in the United States than we currently do. What
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would be very nice? If we are completely self-sufficient? Like Madison, like, there's a bunch of different things to get manufactured overseas, who was a huge problem during Cove it because all the shipping was shut down.
2:28:02
Yeah. I mean, you know what to say like it. So there is there's a lot of Merit to the economics of comparative advantage. Like, so if you're completely self-sufficient, what that means is that, you make all this
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Yourself. And even if some other country is really good at making, something you still make it yourself and which means you're going to have the inferior more costly product domestically right?
2:28:26
Like Soviet Russia.
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Yeah. But like trade trade improves Prosperity. This is this is important. So you don't actually want to be make everything yourself and you can you can run this like you can think of this thought experiment on an automatic sort of
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My micro scale and or small scale and then expand that and say, where does the at what point does the thought experiment no longer for it to be valid. Now, this let's consider the case of yours an individual, imagine you have to do everything yourself. You have to farm, you had to grow chickens, you got to 41 eggs. You've got to build your own house. You've got to do your own electrical repair, your own Plumbing, everything yourself, everything.
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How did that now? That would be impossible. Okay. Now let's expand it to. Okay, like this 10 people. Now you're going to have some, some specialization of tasks, okay? Well, maybe one person could be really good at, you know, construction, another person to be good at farming. It's like, but it's still, you know, 10 people is not enough. It's like, let's go to a hundred people now, let's go to 100 million people. Now, let's go to a billion people and you still get the economics of of specialization like, like specialization of Labor, where people become expert up at,
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I think still matters at a billion people or at 8 billion people, which is Earth, so you still want, you do want specialization of Labor, you do want countries to be really good at a particular thing and make that thing.
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Also, it encourages Innovation. If you have competition, if the Germans are making better cars, we have to make better cars right to compete with them, which is like one of the things that happen during the like the 80s and 90s in America is making crap cars and
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Germans make much better ones. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the
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Yeah, the Japanese car. I mean yeah I mean basically American car industry, got really lazy in the 70s and 80s and and then the Japanese and German car companies came in and just clean the clock, you know? And there was like a an old joke from the that that is kind of telling. It's a very old joke where it's like, what did the Japanese car companies beat the American car companies? Well, it's like, well, the in the Japanese car company.
2:30:42
You had eight people rowing, and one person steering and an American car company. Had eight people staring, and one person rowing, if this was a boat. So the measure the boat race. Yeah, but race Japanese, but you got a people running one person staring in the American vote here. Go, you got one person drawing and eight people staring and when the American Car Company loses the race, they can fire the rower and it's like okay, that was actually kind of true. Yeah, one
2:31:12
Everyone wants to be the boss and I mean, everyone's do the
2:31:14
work type of thing. Yeah, one thing that a lot of people are concerned about is the potential disruption that's going to come about with Automation and AI that a lot of these jobs manufacturing jobs Teamsters, all that stuff is going to be eliminated. What, what do you mean? You're at the Forefront of this? So, how do you see this playing out? And what do you think that can be done to mitigate a lot of the
2:31:42
The loss of purpose that a lot of people are going to feel loss of income. Obviously, Universal basic income is being floated about, but, that seems to me to only be part of the problem. The, another big part of the problem is people losing a sense of
2:31:56
purpose. Yeah. No. We're talking about something which is still pretty far in the future. You know. Like how far do you think it is?
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Well I mean it's it's probably I don't know 15 20 years of a thing. So we've got like immediate issues, we've got short-term issues that are on a one to three years. Medium term issues like five to 10 years longer term issues, which are like maybe 20 years longer term. I think there is a question. If you have ai and Robotics, how do you find meaning in life, if the computer can do everything better than you can? The robot can do everything better than you can.
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But we're sold. We've got a long way to go before that and we're, you know, and I do think it's like 80% likely to be a good outcome like maybe 90. So I think everyone's going to have their own like personal robot like and I think at a certain point like wouldn't you want to have your own personal C-3PO R2D2
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so it's going to be strictly just like everyone has their own phone.
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Yeah, everyone will have their own robot buddy.
2:33:06
Like literally well it'll be great if it protected you. Like if you want a street of New York City, have a Terminator with you, I don't know. The
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total hopefully we're going to avoid we don't want this to be the plot of Jenks James Cameron. You know, we weren't white what more Gene Roddenberry than James, Cameron movie
2:33:23
situation, but it would be fascinating to watch some rich person. Walk down the street of New York City flanked by two giant Tesla robots Jack,
2:33:31
Tesla Rose. I just fully
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robot somebody fully robot there too.
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Protect you from a bad
2:33:37
neighborhood. Yeah, that would be very interesting. I mean,
2:33:42
those things potentially see that. Yeah. Restaurants are probably have no robot rules. You can't bring a robot, you leave you. All right? Yeah, even robot outside your robot standing by the
2:33:54
table and the future is gonna be. Well, that's gonna be wild. Yeah,
2:33:59
as you got to be really unpredictable, like, I don't think I mean you probably have a pretty good sense of it, but
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But I think most people don't understand the wave that's coming. Yeah, it's kind of kind of completely drown society and change it
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forever.
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Yeah.
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I mean it's which we have like said it's not like it's not going to happen like overnight but it's 20 years from now. I'm like it's still like 20 years from now. I think there's going to be more humanoid robots than there are humans.
2:34:32
Really yes, more humanized? What that's so crazy like. So that's like more guns. We have more guns than people in. America, will have more
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robots and people in America as well. Yes,
2:34:42
you have a bunch of old robots. Nobody wants anymore.
2:34:45
Yes. Early early versions of something
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and it's in a historical timeline, 20 years in the past has not been that big of a deal. You know I mean just a big deal but you go from like 1900.
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20, not that big of a deal 19. 20 1940, kind of a big deal 1940. 1960, things start getting weird 60 to 80. Wow, that's a big difference. 82 2000. Holy shit. Now you have the internet 2002 2020. Whoa, this is nuts. You have propaganda social media, YouTube streaming, 20 years from now. Like what are we even talking about?
2:35:29
It's going to be that much of a shift like it's all accelerating and we're in the middle of it. So it's very difficult to sort of like feel it while it's happening because it kind of just feels like life and you just get adapted to the
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changes
2:35:47
Yeah.
2:35:49
I mean people's phones at this point are super computer in their pocket like an article. I could answer any questions people to take it for granted.
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Yeah just normal. Yeah. They get mad if it doesn't work. Yeah. It's like Louis CK's joke about using your phone when you're on a plane, fucking piece of shit. Like you're in the sky if you floating in the
2:36:05
air and not will work with starlink to. What's that? It will work with. Starlink the Starling has a startling connection, it'll be like being on the
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ground. Well, I was telling you how I use starlink. When I was in Utah, I was in the mountains of Utah. There was no cell
2:36:18
Phone service, anywhere near and we had full YouTube. We had text messages FaceTime. Everything phone calls. It was nuts. Yeah. And it was suspect that cigar box. Yeah, it's crazy. It's so light when I brought it out there like that's it. Our this is it, let's plug it in. And the guys I was in Camp with her. Like this is crazy. Yeah, the whole Camp was like sharing it so like 10 people. Yeah. Using the Wi-Fi signal, right nuts. Yeah.
2:36:49
And then, you know, that's the beginning. I mean, you, what you're at right now is like what version? This is starlink mini, right? So this is like a very small version. How much smaller kind of scale down from
2:37:01
that? Well, there's a certain area that you need, like the bigger the area of the. It the more you can like, you'll be alright. Bandwidth. Yeah. Because you're like trying to catch these like photons essentially so you can think of a like the, you know, the area of the
2:37:19
Of the aunt of the the antenna is like, the more area you have the more photons you can catch. So, but when we have a director sell capability as well, that we're just we've been launching that will turn on. I do probably in a few months that that will actually connect directly to a cell phone, an unmodified. But because the cell phone is a much worse antenna than a dedicated antenna, it'll be about 100 times less bandwidth, but still, you know, you'll be able to like do text messages.
2:37:49
Your pictures, like medium resolution videos, and I kind of
2:37:51
think one of the cool things about the new phone, the new iPhone, the iPhone 16, I got it and I was in the mountains last month and I was text messaging with satellites. Yeah, I messages right? And receiving just text. Yeah just text yeah but still pretty
2:38:07
impressive. Yeah, yeah.
2:38:10
I mean, what are we what are we going to be looking at a hundred years from now? I mean when you
2:38:15
are on how to just know if civilizations around
2:38:18
Yeah, that'll be a when. Yeah
2:38:21
yeah. What are the chances that we fucked this whole
2:38:23
thing up?
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Fifty percent.
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it's hard to say, I mean,
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I guess I like I don't think civilization will be totally destroyed unless there's like some really massive global thermonuclear war but
2:38:48
I mean, Stephen Hawking you he would say that. There's like a one at least one percent chance of total Annihilation. Every Century that was his rough estimate but there's a much bigger chance of civilization being less capable than it is today. So you say like, well because you look at say, well, you know, these various civilizations throughout history whether it's like ancient Sumerians or the
2:39:14
Egyptians the Romans like that. That there's like a lifecycle to civilization. They reached a peak and then they started subsiding so. So I think a bigger question is like well what will our technology level be better or worse than it is? Today in 100 years
2:39:37
I think it's probably going to be better.
2:39:43
I think but any estimates are going to be. So there's so many dependencies like like an estimate I think is what I'm not sure it has any meaning because it's like there's so many things that can happen in a hundred years.
2:39:55
Well The Logical hope is always that people pay attention to history and they recognize the patterns and how civilizations have collapsed. Yeah. And they recognize what's going wrong in the current society and say we have to do our best to mitigate this and we've seen this happen before.
2:40:12
Or let's course-correct. And let's sort of manage what we've got here now and maintain what we've got here now because it's pretty extraordinary. Yes, this is what we're hoping for with this election. This is what we're hoping for with the future is that people can see, we are on a bad path and something can be done right now, and it might be the only moment in history where this is possible, because of they do lock the country down and make it. So that voting is kind of bullshit. You're only voting for Primary Center
2:40:42
People that they put in the primaries, they're controlling that in the first place. You don't really have democracy anymore. You don't really have a choice. Exactly. You don't really have
2:40:49
freedom. That's right.
2:40:52
Yeah, I think freedom is is fundamentally at stake in the election tomorrow and we'll know, we'll know. I think we'll know by the end of day tomorrow. I think it's going to take us talking to be like days after the election. They will know tomorrow. Are you optimistic? I am currently optimistic, but the biggest Factor here is that men need to vote. That is the biggest issue. So I don't know what the reason is, but man just vote at a much lower rate than women.
2:41:20
Players are nine percent, right? Someone just told me that too.
2:41:22
Today it's a big difference like and I'm just like saying this message, the man out there. Boat like your life depends on it because I think it does vote for tomorrow like your life depends on it. Nothing is more
2:41:36
important.
2:41:38
I agree. Yeah. Listen man, thank you for being here. I know you're busy as fuck, so I really appreciate your time again. I thank you so much for buying Twitter because I really do believe that you've changed the course of history. I really do think you've, you've created a pathway where people can actually Express themselves and actually exchange information that really didn't exist before and I think it was dangerous.
2:42:01
It is it is dangerous. Hopefully, I live long enough to see my kids grow up and people on Mars.
2:42:09
That's all I'm asking for.
2:42:11
I don't think that's too much to ask. Yeah, thank you very much.
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