#582: Mark Zuckerberg Founder and CEO of Meta

Sometimes, people draw this juxtaposition of, okay, there's the digital world and the real world; that's not actually how I think about it. I think that there's a physical world and a digital world, and the real world is actually both. And increasingly, I think, people will use these technologies to be able to be present in places that they physically can't be.

Let’s constantly be doing something that can be doubted. Because if we’re not, then what are we doing? ... If it’s obvious to everyone that we’re going to be able to do each of the things that we’re working on, then I don’t feel like we’re making the most of what we need to do.

If I'm doing something that feels too well-understood for too long, then I feel like I'm just being complacent.

At this point, I kind of feel like if people fully feel like they understand what we are as a company and what we're doing, then I'm not pushing it hard enough.

I think a lot of what the world needs right now is inspiration. There are a lot of things in our lives and modern day that work pretty well, but a lot of what we lack is a positive vision for the future. A lot of the metaverse work, to me, has that level of inspiration, and that's partially why I find it super exciting.

I had this conversation with this guy, Dan Rosensweig. He was the CEO of Yahoo at the time ... He told me this thing that will always stick with me, which is that every organization sucks, but you get to choose the ways in which your organization sucks.

You can pretty much, I think, get an organization through and a team through almost any challenge as long as you can maintain good cohesion.

My parents always... cared that we achieved and did great in school. But beyond that, they didn't really care what specific thing we were interested in. They just wanted to expose us to a bunch of things, and then, if we were interested in something, then they would try to push us to become excellent at that thing.